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rkyeun said:
Ah, much as I hate to agree with Marcus about something...

We have created a new thing, the clear seed. What we don't know about this seed is dangerous. Imagine that we hadn't, more or less by accident, found out that keeping them with other grief seeds is Bad. We do not know the rules of clear seeds. We need to find an easy witch, and poke it with a clear seed just to see what happens. If it does nothing, there, we know that now. If it sucks in enough grief to reawaken as a witch, and now you have two witches, we need to issue warnings about that in case someone's fighting a witch and the witch grabs their seed. If it sucks in the witch and we instantly have two regular grief seeds, good to know that clear seeds are anti-witch grenades. But maybe, just maybe, it does something special like UNWITCH THE GIRL who hasn't been killed since she witched and might still come back if she just had a place to dump all her grief.

These are things we must know, not for Walpurgisnaucht, but for Clear Seeds.

I want to not give clear seeds away for free, as Sabrina suggested. I want to sell them for some higher number of grief seeds, so we can keep the operation running. If you need an emergency cleanse, we'll send you a clear seed but we want it back and it's not yours to keep, because again, we need more grief seeds so we can make more clear seeds so we have them to give people.
But before we start a major clear seed distribution program, we need to know what they do when combined with the other most common magical things.
POKE THESE THINGS WITH IT:
  • Kyubey.
  • A familiar.
  • The entrance to a witch's barrier.
  • A witch.
  • A witch-kissed human.
  • A sad but not witch-kissed human.
  • The actual mark on a witch-kissed human.
  • A happy human.
  • An injured human.
  • A dying human.
  • Smash a clear seed to see if it EXPLODES.
  • Fire.
  • Electrical current.
We need to know because if we're going to hand out this new item to people who won't have the benefit of us around to explain it, we need to know what to tell them to NOT DO with it. They can't control it on the fly like Sabrina can, or defuse complications we didn't expect and don't know about.
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Absolutely not. Not only are most of these extremely unethical and dangerous for no other reason than to see what would happen, but a lot of the proposed dangers exist with NORMAL Grief Seeds as well; how many times does a Witch seem to ever grab Seeds at all? Pretty much never.

Honestly, just spreading that Clear Seeds will aggressively try to suck grief out of other Seeds is enough to let others intuit the possible risks in other situations. And we're not going to dewitch anyone by poking them with a Clear Seed, that's idiotic.

And we're not selling the damn Seeds. Holy shit, we can't literally hold people's lives above them like that. Just say we'll turn anyone's Grief Seeds into Clear Seeds and they'll come to us naturally.
 
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AuraTwilight said:
Absolutely not. Not only are most of these extremely unethical and dangerous for no other reason than to see what would happen, but a lot of the proposed dangers exist with NORMAL Grief Seeds as well; how many times does a Witch seem to ever grab Seeds at all? Pretty much never.

Honestly, just spreading that Clear Seeds will aggressively try to suck grief out of other Seeds is enough to let others intuit the possible risks in other situations. And we're not going to dewitch anyone by poking them with a Clear Seed, that's idiotic.

And we're not selling the damn Seeds. Holy shit, we can't literally hold people's lives above them like that. Just say we'll turn anyone's Grief Seeds into Clear Seeds and they'll come to us naturally.
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Which things do you think it unethical to poke with a clear seed? Surely not Kyubey or familiars? Do you expect any harm to come to humans from it? Why do you hold that expectation?
Normal grief seeds hold grief. Grief isn't something I want to expose people to. A clear seed with no grief lacks that concern. But if it can cure depression in humans, that would be good.
We've never seen a witch go after a grief seed. But this isn't a grief seed, it's a clear seed, and I would like to know if they do. I have no data upon which to predict the behavior of witches towards clear seeds. Do you?
I don't believe it safe to presume that a basic warning about aggressive grief suckage will let others intuit the possible risks in other situations when we ourselves haven't intuited those risks. This is uncharted territory. Do you have reasons to believe the things you are claiming?
What knowledge do you have by which to suggest dewitching someone by the method I proposed is infeasible or idiotic? It seems to me to be exactly the kind of out of context solution that could bypass Kyubey's objections to canon events where Madoka and Kyoko tried to save Sayaka. Him not knowing of a way means no things that currently existed could have - but this is a new thing he also has little knowledge of.
My goal for selling clear seeds is not to hold people's lives ransom. I explicitly included emergency loaners for that reason. Everyone gets free cleanses. But to make clear seeds and distribute them, we need the raw materials. And to make the scale of operations increase, so our small resource limitations don't hold those people's lives ransom, we need that number to be higher than our costs. So we have to get >1 grief seed for every clear seed, because eventually we're going to lose some. That can be a very small >1, such as 1.1 perhaps. If it makes you feel better, we can have a grief seed take-a-penny-leave-a-penny box where anyone can donate extra grief seeds, and if someone needs a clear one but can't pay, and we have spares in the box, we can gift them that way.
 
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So, lads and lassies! Does anyone know why our body disconnects from our Soul Gem after a 100m? Cuz I dunno why and if we do know, maybe we could get around it somehow!
Thee was already a thing about our Soul Gem range havin something to do with our Grief range, right? If we get super range, then we could keep track of all the meguca and make sure no-one does anything bad while their staying over!

Also, is it April 1st yet?
 
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We are meeting Bennouna right now, yes. We're voting on what questions to ask her.
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Thanks! Reading the update, it seems there's a League of German Maidens over in Germany.
Ya think their leaders called Faust?

Also also, I have no idea how you lot keep up with this thread. It moves way too fast!
 
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