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Kaizuki said:
Much of @Higure's point was that if we just sit there and let Oriko do her thing, she'll probably accomplish what Higure suggested. The "too far" bit -- see the line with (Oriko's parents).
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Fair. We think there's no chance of Oriko deciding to roll over and die? Her earlier dramatic pauses make me think we might want to give her a little bit of a kick.
 
Looking back through Oriko to find out her particular brand of suicidal...
Firnagzen said:
"I see the future, Sabrina," Oriko says. "There's no room for me in it."
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It sounds to me like she'll probably be trying to "spend" herself to Sayaka's benefit. What direction that goes I'm not sure. If we're trying to cover failure cases, though...

[] Telepathy Oriko. She can social-fu Sayaka all she wants - you'd actually appreciate it if she could do something about the black-and-white Maximum Justice thing - but none of that death-seeking stuff. The goal is for Sayaka to be less angry at her.


(also, Oriko and Kirika are adorable and I hope we get more of that.)
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"Mm," you say, raising a hand. Grief sweeps in through the window, a tide of deep purple flooding in as a torrent. It pours around you, all three of you, wrapping under the bed and over your heads and blotting out the light.

You hear an alarmed squeak before you will the interior of the sphere to glow. As a gentle illumination begins to suffuse the interior of your not-really-a-sphere, another effort of will -shield us from outside influence- turns it into an interdiction still-not-really-a-sphere.

When you turn back to Kirika, you find her clinging to Oriko's side in an awkward, hunched over posture, and the seer's arm is wrapped around her waist. You raise an eyebrow.

"She doesn't like darkness," Oriko notes.

"Orikooooooooo," Kirika whines, lifting her head from Oriko's shoulder. "You didn't have to tell heeeeerrrr."

"But I did, dear," Oriko says, smiling at her.

Kirika pouts and flops over on the bed next to Oriko, reaching up to play with Oriko's silvery mane of hair.
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Firnagzen said:
"Cool! Lemme try," Kirika says, assuming an expression of great concentration as she stares down at the rock. "Hnnnnnngh."

Oriko's eyes widen a hair, and she smacks Kirika's hand lightly. "No."

Kirika makes a confused face. "No?"

"No," Oriko repeats.

"Oh," Kirika says sadly.

"Too much," the seer says tartly.

"Ohh," Kirika says, nodding. "What if-"

Oriko shakes her head.

Another pout.
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Vebyast said:
Looking back through Oriko to find out her particular brand of suicidal...

It sounds to me like she'll probably be trying to "spend" herself to Sayaka's benefit. What direction that goes I'm not sure. If we're trying to cover failure cases, though...

[] Telepathy Oriko. She can social-fu Sayaka all she wants - you'd actually appreciate it if she could do something about the black-and-white Maximum Justice thing - but none of that death-seeking stuff. The goal is for Sayaka to be less angry at her.


(also, Oriko and Kirika are adorable and I hope we get more of that.)
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See if she does that stuff I'd almost rather react by palming face and "Really, Oriko? Why u no hope for lyfe." and watching S&H go white as they realize what we're saying.

Idk. I also feel like we can't tell Oriko what to do particularly... If she wants to piss off S&H then... Are we really going to stop her by telling her not to do it?
 
Kaizuki said:
Higu-kun, I like this. Does current vote accomplish, or do I need to drop something? I don't... Think the "too far" line would block this, would it?
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I think the current vote will do fine. Only possible issue would be Oriko trying to be nice because she expects us to want her to do so, but...it's Oriko.

Her trying to commit Sayakacide isn't impossible, but that's why we're chaperoning.

Ultimately, we don't need to dictate what is said...while I hope Oriko shatters their arguments like badly made china, I don't think we should try to force it: They all need to say their peace.
 
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Onmur said:
Why would Kirika have to find her? o_O

Look, it was hard enough finding a big enough box to squeeze them both together into it without looking too suspicious, so I don't want inane questions, OK?
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My first thought was a ring box.

Which got me to thinking... Maybe Homura would be more accepting of letting Oriko and Kirika have some freedom for a while -- if they leave their ?original bodies in the mansion in the meantime.

Sure it wouldn't be any fun to venture around without senses and physical capability, so how about Sabrina !!Sciences!! up some chibi's that Oriko and Kirika can ?inhabit?
 
Maybe if things to well now, before this is over, we can bring up the fact that O&K spend most of their time lazying around and should, you know, do their MG duty and kill some Witches, or help in the saving of meguca, some actually redeeming act like that.

Maybe Sayaka will even agree.
 
Onmur said:
Maybe if things to well now, before this is over, we can bring up the fact that O&K spend most of their time lazying around and should, you know, do their MG duty and kill some Witches, or help in the saving of meguca, some actually redeeming act like that.

Maybe Sayaka will even agree.
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Gotta get Super Jailer Homura to agree to it, and there's no chance of that happening any time soon. The only way that's even going to even start happening is for Oriko to change her focus from "how to die saving the world" to "rabu Kirika moar", which is just plain not going to happen tonight.
 
TheEyes said:
Gotta get Super Jailer Homura to agree to it, and there's no chance of that happening any time soon. The only way that's even going to even start happening is for Oriko to change her focus from "how to die saving the world" to "rabu Kirika moar", which is just plain not going to happen tonight.
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Hey, if we can get Sayaka to agree to it, Homu will be baffled at least.
 
How therapeutic would it be if Sayaka ends up in a (no superpowers) catfight with Oriko? For both of them.

(We can restrain Best Buddy by pointing out she should cheer on her Ojou and enjoy the show) :p
 
Speaking of no superpowers... @Kaizuki , d'you think it's better if instead of asking Kirika to "not completely eviscerate" S&H if things get violent, she could just blast Sayaka with her anti-magic field? With Saibrina and Mami (and Homura if she joins) away from the line of fire of course. I think it would further mitigate any possible injuries.
 
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defenestrator said:
Speaking of no superpowers... @Kaizuki , d'you think it's better if instead of asking Kirika to "not completely eviscerate" S&H if things get violent, she could just blast Sayaka with her anti-magic field? With Saibrina and Mami (and Homura if she joins) away from the line of fire of course. I think it would further mitigate any possible injuries.
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I think -- and this is just me -- that Kirika won't really act physically unless S&H make the first move. The moment S&H do make a first move, though, I expect her to get between Oriko and the aggressor, and take whatever steps she feels are necessary to disable the aggressor from further acting physically against Oriko. Unfortunately for us, I don't think antimagic is really Kirika's choice of disabling weapon. Or, well, that might actually be a good thing, because...

Imagine you're Homura. You're outside the house of O&K on overwatch. Suddenly you feel a pulse of Kirika's antimagic.

Do you:
A) Pass it off as friendly banter
B) Do nothing, figure Sabrina has it under control
C) Timestop in, calmly survey the situation, tag Sabrina &/ Mami into timestop to ask what they want to do
D) DANGER DANGER ORIKO SHOWS HER TRUE COLORS SABRINA HAS FAILED TIME FOR KILL LA HOMU

So, I don't think Kirika would like the idea of using something she can't block physical objects with to defend Oriko, and I think antimagic is actually more alarm-inducing than claws, probably.
 
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Kaizuki said:
Imagine you're Homura. You're outside the house of O&K on overwatch. Suddenly you feel a pulse of Kirika's antimagic.

Do you:
A) Pass it off as friendly banter
B) Do nothing, figure Sabrina has it under control
C) Timestop in, calmly survey the situation, tag Sabrina &/ Mami into timestop to ask what they want to do
D) DANGER DANGER ORIKO SHOWS HER TRUE COLORS SABRINA HAS FAILED TIME FOR KILL LA HOMU
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I would say she would timestop and check without pulling anyone else into it.
 
None of this is really an argument against standing back and chaperoning the thing.

Really I think with Sabrina and social we sometimes OVER think things. Maybe we should all post initial reactions and work from there? Humans are social creatures - our first instincts may be better then some convoluted plan made up over several weeks.
 
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DB_Explorer said:
None of this is really an argument against standing back and chaperoning the thing. Really I think with Sabrina and social we sometimes OVER think things. Maybe we should all post initial reactions and work from there? Humans are social creatures - our first instincts may be better then some convoluted plan made up over several weeks.
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Calm desu. We are standing back and chaperoning. That's the vote. We're just tossing suggestions on how we could tweak things beforehand because we're bored.
 
Best ideas:

[Q] Use Grief to make a courtroom out of Oriko's living room.

[Q] Waifu the Kirika in front of Oriko and Mami to see how they react.

[Q] Ditch these dames and hang out with Momura. Ask her if you can look through the telescope.
 
DB_Explorer said:
None of this is really an argument against standing back and chaperoning the thing. Really I think with Sabrina and social we sometimes OVER think things. Maybe we should all post initial reactions and work from there? Humans are social creatures - our first instincts may be better then some convoluted plan made up over several weeks.
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That would have helped in the last 2-3 votes, but it's not going to help here. At this point we've locked ourselves out of directly controlling the conversation by steering S&H's wrath at O&K towards us as much as it is towards them. Trying to intervene at this late stage will only serve to make Sabrina as much an enemy to them as O&K are.
 
TheEyes said:
That would have helped in the last 2-3 votes, but it's not going to help here. At this point we've locked ourselves out of directly controlling the conversation by steering S&H's wrath at O&K towards us as much as it is towards them. Trying to intervene at this late stage will only serve to make Sabrina as much an enemy to them as O&K are.
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the comment on trusting first instincts was more a general thought on our overall actions and lack of social - not this single event.
 
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