We're going to need to call up Kyubey to take it at some point. Really, we're overdue, since we're already carrying at least two Seeds' worth. And since Mami probably really doesn't want to see the little fucker right now, that's going to mean either a conversation with her, or waiting until we're no longer joined at the hip (which will probably be during school on Monday the way things are going).

Actually, I'd like to place the grief in some kind of container (magical or mundane), then enchant the container to suppress the witchy feeling. Would make for some good practice if nothing else. Or Mami could probably enchant it herself fairly easily.
 
Actually, I'd like to place the grief in some kind of container (magical or mundane), then enchant the container to suppress the witchy feeling. Would make for some good practice if nothing else. Or Mami could probably enchant it herself fairly easily.

I'd be totally down with trying to enchant something to suppress the witchy feeling. It should fall within our 'theme', too, so we should get the wish boost to enchanting when we try it. Maybe tonight, after the picnic and Orikobomb?
 
On the topic of demanding payment for Seeds, think how much confident and at east Inoue seemed right now when we asked for her sister's help.
She's probably fielded a lot of these requests. Her power's got a lot of utility value to do things that magic normally can't. Even Homura went to her when she needed some programming done. And she's probably also used to getting paid in Grief Seeds, so she just automatically assumed that our cleansing powers would be filling that role.

Actually, I'd like to place the grief in some kind of container (magical or mundane), then enchant the container to suppress the witchy feeling. Would make for some good practice if nothing else. Or Mami could probably enchant it herself fairly easily.
We haven't had much luck hiding the witchy feeling in the past, but maybe enchanting is the key.

Actually, as a stealth specialist, Kuroki would probably find the concealing box the easiest to enchant... assuming she's still alive and we manage to find her.
 
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She's probably fielded a lot of these requests. Her power's got a lot of utility value to do things that magic normally can't. Even Homura went to her when she needed some programming done. And she's probably also used to getting paid in Grief Seeds, so she just automatically assumed that our cleansing powers would be filling that role.
Well, every large meguca group basically manages their dealings with other meguca groups as business, as far as we've seen.
 
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So I just noticed that we have just a single vote since the update 10 hours ago.

[x] Smile at Mami. Time to pack up for the picnic!
-[x] Homura offered to keep stuff in stasis if we needed it, but... do we need it? Everything looks like it should keep fine without the help... What does Mami think?
--[x] Abide by Mami's decision either way.

[x] Head out to the park once everything is packed. Keep the conversation light - this is a time to unwind and relax.
-[x] Greet your friends once you're there. Use phones/telepathy as appropriate to get everyone to the same place.
 
I'd be totally down with trying to enchant something to suppress the witchy feeling. It should fall within our 'theme', too, so we should get the wish boost to enchanting when we try it. Maybe tonight, after the picnic and Orikobomb?
We haven't got to practicing Grief enchantments, so... even were it possible to conceal the 'witchy' feeling, it'd be a ways off...
 
[x] Smile at Mami. Time to pack up for the picnic!
-[x] Homura offered to keep stuff in stasis if we needed it, but... do we need it? Everything looks like it should keep fine without the help... What does Mami think?
--[x] Abide by Mami's decision either way.

[x] Head out to the park once everything is packed. Keep the conversation light - this is a time to unwind and relax.
-[x] Greet your friends once you're there. Use phones/telepathy as appropriate to get everyone to the same place.
 
Homu looked happy/nostalgic enough when we asked if she could bring stuff in her shield, so we should ask her to/go with her to pick up some stuff (like ice cream?), just for Homufeels.

We wouldn't be enchanting grief. We'd be enchanting or magicing up a container that's holding the grief.
I meant Grief Control Enchantments, since supposedly that's a good first step towards Enchantment in general for us, going by Kirika's progress on AM enchants.

Any enchantment is a ways off...
 
She's probably fielded a lot of these requests. Her power's got a lot of utility value to do things that magic normally can't. Even Homura went to her when she needed some programming done. And she's probably also used to getting paid in Grief Seeds, so she just automatically assumed that our cleansing powers would be filling that role.


We haven't had much luck hiding the witchy feeling in the past, but maybe enchanting is the key.

Actually, as a stealth specialist, Kuroki would probably find the concealing box the easiest to enchant... assuming she's still alive and we manage to find her.
We are, it occurs to me, like somebody entering an Energy crisis with cheap and clean fusion... who then wants to give it away.
No wonder the other meguca are suspicious.
They are seeing things as a market .
We as an disaster.
Nobody is going to ask disaster relief why they are giving away things for free.
Everybody is doing so in a normal market economy.
 
Homu looked happy/nostalgic enough when we asked if she could bring stuff in her shield, so we should ask her to/go with her to pick up some stuff (like ice cream?), just for Homufeels.


I meant Grief Control Enchantments, since supposedly that's a good first step towards Enchantment in general for us, going by Kirika's progress on AM enchants.

Any enchantment is a ways off...

Hmm. However practice would give us a better foundation for enchantment magic as a whole. Mami's naturally better then us with enchant because she's been doing it for much longer. Thus it's easier for her to get it right.

@Redshirt Army

Would you object to at some point today asking Homu for a timestop enchantment session? She might be able to learn some things too.
 
There's an structure, spun around the idea that meguca must hunt for Grief Seeds.

Not meguca need to hunt Witches to protect the population from them, but a political structure based around survival.

It's easy to understand thing can go hella wrong if we swoop in and hand out Clean Seeds. We'd be breaking a system... one that keeps order.

So... aside from the idea of demanding (like help against Walpy) payment for Seeds (which could end up excluding some meguca)...

Maybe we could just offer only one-time Grief cleansing (Gems and Seeds), then call after a week or so and see how that went?

If it might be easier for the Toyko meguca population, we can restrict how much help we offer them. Maybe get a third party (like Sakura?) to ferry Grief Seeds back and forth between Mitakihara and Tokyo... and maybe make exceptions for lone meguca with no support network.

Do you know how many people eat ice cream any day, no matter how chilly it might be? I've got a friend who works at an ice cream place, and he basically hates people 'cause he never gets a day off due to 'the day being chilly'. :p

if there aren't too many fires for us to put out, I'd be fine with it.
[missingthepoint]But timestop makes putting fires out easier. :rolleyes:[/missingthepoint]
 
We are, it occurs to me, like somebody entering an Energy crisis with cheap and clean fusion... who then wants to give it away.
No wonder the other meguca are suspicious.
They are seeing things as a market .
We as an disaster.
Nobody is going to ask disaster relief why they are giving away things for free.
Everybody is doing so in a normal market economy.
Y'know, a few days ago when somebody in the thread was talking about the DeBeers diamond monopoly, I was going to jokingly suggest that we put them out of business by flooding the market with artificial diamonds to drive the value down...

And now I realize that's essentially what our existence is going to do to the Grief Seed market. As Akiko kept telling us before we rendered her catatonic, they're a valuable commodity. If we're giving away Clear Seeds (each being essentially 37,000 Grief Seeds), then the value of Grief Seeds is going to drop.

Not worthless, mind you, because Grief Seeds are still a valuable resource. We can't make a Clear Seed without a Grief Seed to start from. And as our operations expand, they're going to become a hell of a lot rarer, because girls won't be witching out, so production of new Grief Seeds will eventually grind to a halt, but most of them probably don't know that because they don't know where witches come from. But in the short term, their value for barter is going to plummet. No wonder the established meguca hierarchy is freaked out by the idea.

Maybe we could just offer only one-time Grief cleansing (Gems and Seeds), then call after a week or so and see how that went?
An alternate thought: we're essentially giving away a valuable resource and source of combat power to all comers. Tokyo might be reluctant to accept it now. But when they find out that Ishinomaki and Sendai have accepted Clear Seeds and gained all the advantages that represents? They'll be desperate to get some of their own to maintain the balance of power. Nobody wants to be the only meguca group without a Clear Seed.
 
Thought: if we're going to make a jar of hyper condensed grief, do we have to worry about the grief decomposing that jar? Didn't it like, kinda melt metal when we let it go next to a chunk a while back?
 
sentially giving away a valuable resource and source of combat power to all comers. Tokyo might be reluctant to accept it now. But when they find out that Ishinomaki and Sendai have accepted Clear Seeds and gained all the advantages that represents? They'll be desperate to get some of their own to maintain the balance of power. Nobody wants to be the only meguca group without a Clear Seed
Well, I was thinking the naysayer Tokyo fraction would fold once the rest of Tokyo agrees to cleansing, but that's grand. Grander. Er.
 
Thought: if we're going to make a jar of hyper condensed grief, do we have to worry about the grief decomposing that jar? Didn't it like, kinda melt metal when we let it go next to a chunk a while back?

As long as we tell the grief to sit down and behave, it will. An enchantment to hide the grief from witch radar is totally separate from an enchantment to keep the grief in place out of our range.

Not that I would mind working on that, either. It's pretty much a requirement if we want to make "Sabrina's Geniune Imitation Grief ToroidsTM​". (Slogan: "All the grief storage, but with zero tortured souls!")
 
Flattered, but it's not actually mine, just using a resource @owrtho made.

I am immensely amused at being the Ugo of Mumiquest though.

I assumed that those were parodies of real people, but I had no idea who was supposed to be who (though I've now noticed "Bright as Lead" must be Dark as Silver. Still don't know who anyone else is, but one being Ugo does make sense)

"poly", meaning "many"; "ticks", meaning "bloodsucking insects". Sounds about right. :V

Technically arachnids.

EDIT:

Wait! Light Wizard is Dark Mage! So, ValiantRathian must be Ugo, but I don't understand the name. I guess I'll have to use Google.

EDIT: Based on Google, ValiantRathian must be LostDeviljho.
 
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I assumed that those were parodies of real people, but I had no idea who was supposed to be who (though I've now noticed "Bright as Lead" must be Dark as Silver. Still don't know who anyone else is, but one being Ugo does make sense)



Technically arachnids.

EDIT:

Wait! Light Wizard is Dark Mage! So, ValiantRathian must be Ugo, but I don't understand the name. I guess I'll have to use Google.

EDIT: Based on Google, ValiantRathian must be LostDeviljho.
Actually, it occurs to me that my expy was more filling the Mura role than the Ugo one.
I suppose that would make the Rex expy the Ugo of Mumi-quest?
 
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