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Redshirt Army said:
Lolwut?
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Remember that I have a very poor opinion of Kyouko. But yeah, she's a major bully involved in major character's death, her family and especially her desires to impress her father helped lead her down the path of villainy she's a criminal and she discriminates against muggles.

EDIT: She even has a snake-like weapon.
 
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I'd contradict just about half of what you said, but we all know how that tends to end.

How about this, we avoid talking about our opinions on Kyoko's best/worst-ness so we don't segway into a Morality debate and annoy Firn for the xth time?
 
Sereg said:
Remember that I have a very poor opinion of Kyouko. But yeah, she's a major bully involved in major character's death, her family and especially her desires to impress her father helped lead her down the path of villainy she's a criminal and she discriminates against muggles.
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Kyoko's hardly a shining example of humanity, and for most of PMMM it would even be a stretch to call her a good person. That said, I struggle to think of a single character trait she shares with Draco, for good or ill. It's not about being a villain or not - her ill deeds simply stem from completely different causes.

Kyoko's main character arc is about her having rejected her fathers ideals and acting against them, before being redeemed by recovering those ideals. It's literally the opposite of Draco's.

Even her indifference to 'muggles' stems from a completely different source - it's not a cultural ideology she's been immersed in - and I shouldn't need to point out how badly she'd fit the role of 'rich snob'.

You could cast Kyoko as a villain and have it work, but certainly not as Malfoy.
 
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Sorry. I was just explaining my reasoning to Redshirt Army.


Anyway, Sabrina is actually Remus Lupin. Kirika is Hagrid. Madoka is Ginny Weasely. It's Homura that is Harry.

EDIT:^ Obviously there are differences, because the characters aren't clones of each other, but that doesn't make what I said less true. Kyouko's motivation and situation is different, but she still has those role similarities.
 
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Madoka wouldn't be the Headmistress at Madokahalla anyway, she's The Founder.

That means Sabrina would get sorted in house Kaname... as would everybody else, since there's only one Founder for Madokahalla, not four.

What's the point of the sorting, you might ask?

Who knows. :V

Sereg said:
Yeah. That was one of the things I was getting at.
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Who wants to bet it'll be a full moon during Walpurgisnacht? :p
 
Hannz said:
How about this, we avoid talking about our opinions on Kyoko's best/worst-ness so we don't segway into a Morality debate and annoy Firn for the xth time?
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I share the sentiment for now, but the time must come. In a month or ten I don't know, but it must arrive.

Onmur said:
Now, for something completely different:
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Implying we cannot act? Such lack of fai-

Actually, can we act? We should have that tested some day. It may be completely irrelevant and a waste of time, but we must know if acting is counted among our skills. Curiosity demands it.
 
bird_poison said:
I share the sentiment for now, but the time must come. In a month or ten I don't know, but it must arrive.


Implying we cannot act? Such lack of fai-

Actually, can we act? We should have that tested some day. It may be completely irrelevant and a waste of time, but we must know if acting is counted among our skills. Curiosity demands it.
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Sabrina acted like she didn't know about Kyuubey.
 
bird_poison said:
Implying we cannot act? Such lack of fai-

Actually, can we act? We should have that tested some day. It may be completely irrelevant and a waste of time, but we must know if acting is counted among our skills. Curiosity demands it.
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Well, Oriko's my director of choice it seems, so we could bring it up when we go to her place. :p

cmwatford said:
Sabrina x Coobs OTP. We will break things so completely that the rat becomes our waifu(husbando?).
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At a risk, I have to say that Kyoko is at worst chaotic neutral at first. She only lets people die because she'd die if she didn't- she'd run out of witches to kill if she didn't familiar farm. She was hurt in a way that made her believe that trying to use her magic to help people would only bring disaster, and so when she saw Sayaka, she saw those old values and decided to beat reality into her. It only even got deadly when Sayaka implied Kyoko was why an old friend of hers died, which would piss anyone off, to be fair.

Sorry. I just had to give my two cents on it.
 
Well, being fair, that's a somewhat out of date poll and I know I voted differently then than I would now >.>
 
If people do want to debate it, there are other threads for it (where I've actually said my piece before. Not that I'd call that description Chaotic Neutral in the first place. Under DnD morality, it takes very little to be evil, to the point that a third of the people you meet are evil)
 
I suspect it's Lost. He's said that he disapproves of the way Mami does things before and IIRC, only Madoka's lower on his list of favourite characters(because he finds Madoka boring). Though he might've picked option four for the Sayaka ship.
 
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