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Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

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"Well, on the topic of duct tape and meguca in general, what does our Coordinator have to share today?" Sabrina smirks, picking up a croissant.

Sayaka takes a long sip out of her teacup, before putting it down. "Well..." she drawls, "you're not gonna like this, but the amount of 'hipster meguca' is going up."

"That's stupid." Cuts in Homura.

"Yeah, that's why we named them that." Shoots back the blue haired girl.

"There's no reason for them to do... that." Insists he black haired girl.

"I know!" Sayaka agrees, exasperated.

Sabrina, meanwhile, is busy massaging her head, croissant forgotten back on the table. "Let me get this straight:" she states. "We've got an increasing amount of meguca who would rather hunt Witches without our help, just to get Grief Seeds and use them instead of our Soul free, 800% more efficient Grief Cubes?"

"Sounds about right."

Sabrina sighs heavily, shoulders sagging. Immediately an arm wraps itself around her waist, and Mami is there with a comforting smile.

Sabrina smiles back for a moment, before turning back to the group sitting around the table.

"It's official. We've entered the puberty of our New meguca World.

"A few years ago we eradicated the need for Grief Seeds, isolation, and great risk in fighting Witches, and started slowly but surely un-Witching Witches back into meguca.

"Today, the relatively few, but still many meguca who don't know about the Old System are risking their lives fighting Witches, just so they can touch the corrupted, despairing Souls of their fallen brethen to their own Souls. And making it harder to un-Witch the Seeds back into sane people.

"I would like to propose a toast."

Sabrina lifts her teacup in the air.

Her friends look confused at each other for a moment, before Mami cautiously follows along, and soon every girl at Mami's apartment is waiting to hear Sabrina's toast.

"... To teenagers being teenagers."

Kyouko snorts.

"To teenagers being teenagers." Repeats the whole group.

"... We shouldn't be toasting with tea," complains Oriko, "we're about of age, and I know you've something stronger somewhere around here."

Sabrina shrugs. "Whatever. Mami, fire up the Zillagann, it's about time we go back to basics."

"YEAH!" Cheers Kirika. "Time to crack some skulls, just like that trip forever ago! Oriko! Can I go?"

The part time Seer's hand raises to stroke her not-quite-there-in-the-head girlfriend's cheek.

"Be back before bed time," she says softly, "I hate it when you're not there with me."

While Kirika manages to irradiate heat from her face, Sayaka argues with Sabrina.

"Come on, let me drive this time! I can do it!"

Sabrina hums dubiously. "You know it takes both Mami and me to drive the thing, after the latest additions?"

"I can manage," assures Sayaka, "if you just let me touch you-"

"Lewd!" Interrupts Kyouko.

Kirika's head snaps up.

The blue meguca splutters for a second, before- "TO COPY HER POWERS!" -she explodes.

"Careful with this one, Mami!" Yells the red haired girl, unabated. "She wants to take your brain damaged girl!"

"KYOUKO! STOP BRINGING THAT UP!"

"Stop bringing what up?" Asks Hitomi.

Sayaka's eyes widen like plates. "Uh..." she gulps, "I... I've got to go pilot a giant Grief robot!" She starts to get up. "See ya lat-!"

"Mami and Sabrina left a minute ago." Informs the green haired girl.

Sayaka blinks, looking around. Indeed, the white and gold meguca are nowhere to be seen. She looks towards Homura, who's lazily almost-smiling at her- no help there, then at the white and black couple who's making lovey dovey eyes at each- no help there.

"W-well..." starts Sayaka, resigned, "it all started when Sabrina made an entirely stupid, tasteless joke-"

"Sayaka's dad gave Sabrina mad props to date his daughter."

"KYOUKO!"
 
Vebyast said:
Unless we want to become Sabrina Claus and her omnipresent helper Homudolph the Time-stopping Reindeer and let the world advance in one-minute increments after each of which we circle the entire planet finding people to deliver the Word of Madokami to, we can't handle infinite saving yet. I agree with the idea of sending Sasa to someone that can help her. I don't know who exactly, since I don't know any details of her personality (which'd inform MGs to send her to) or her life situation (∃ friends or family?), but it's probably the most effective long-term solution if we want to make with the saving.
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Or we could try being a compassionate human being and talking to her. You know, not just writing her off without so much as an attempt?
 
Looking over the recent "discussion", it seems I really lucked out leaving early.:V

Echo said:
Also, if we leave out the whole "magic" thing, Sabrina is just... a weird dork who's really tall and apparently foreign but otherwise unremarkable. Not exactly very impressive, y'know?

But once magic is in the picture there's the whole "Mitakihara is basically full of living legends and I'm kind of the ringleader or something" part. Somehow I don't think being around a bunch of people she'll never come close to measuring up to would go over well with this girl...
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IMO, Sabrina actually comes off a pretty cool superficially. It's only until you spend a sufficient time around her (with her getting mesmerized by hairflips, imagining what microwaved tea tastes like, contemplating firing her gold bars out of cannons, and making up anime nicknames for people attacking her with complete seriousness) that you realize what weirdo goofball she is.

For better and worse, a lot about Sabrina really kind of stands out. From her appearance to her personality.
 
Ugolino said:
Sasa and Kyoko of all people?

What?!

That's about as well advised as telling Madoka she should contract for the sake of the universe.
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I mean, if there's anyone who won't hit Sasa's "she's so selfless that I guess I just have to kill everyone" button, it's Kyouko. Being Kyouko though, she's liable to hit every other button Sasa has.
 
FelOnyx said:
I mean, if there's anyone who won't hit Sasa's "she's so selfless that I guess I just have to kill everyone" button, it's Kyouko. Being Kyouko though, she's liable to hit every other button Sasa has.
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Even so, the answer to "Sasa is irritable and has an inferiority complex on a hair trigger about anyone 'better' in any way" is not "avoid selflessness by pushing her at Kyoko"
 
AuraTwilight said:
Hey, stop doing that. It's manipulative and dishonest.



Nagisa. Argument invalid.
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Meh. I'm bitter about it and don't think it's a valid argument. It really does boil down to "we need to go back to Mami ASAP because promise, never mind Sasa" anyway and if someone cares about stating it better than I can, they presumably will.
 
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It boils down to "We should make sure we don't trigger a relapse in Mami since she was a limpet merely DAYS ago and with Time Stop abuse Sasa won't be left unsupervised for literally even five minutes. It'll also be good to not have a recent memory of Sabrina breaking her word in Mami's head since we plan to Metabomb her tonight and that inherently reveals and implies further duplicity. It's a matter of respect and preventative measures on Mami having a goddamn freak-out over being lied to or having her trust broken because that's the exact trigger that ruined her relationship with Kyubey.

Sasa, meanwhile, is not contracted and is thus not capable of dying of fucking emotions, and there's someone we should check up on because she's roughly scheduled to die of fucking emotions roughly around this point in the timeline because she's goddamn Albertine."

I'm sorry but Sasa is third priority at best. I want to help her, really I do. I'm pretty much the first person willing to show sympathy for and sign up to save Sasa from what she could become, but be reasonable here.
 
AuraTwilight said:
It boils down to "We should make sure we don't trigger a relapse in Mami since she was a limpet merely DAYS ago and with Time Stop abuse Sasa won't be left unsupervised for literally even five minutes. It'll also be good to not have a recent memory of Sabrina breaking her word in Mami's head since we plan to Metabomb her tonight and that inherently reveals and implies further duplicity. It's a matter of respect and preventative measures on Mami having a goddamn freak-out over being lied to or having her trust broken because that's the exact trigger that ruined her relationship with Kyubey.

Sasa, meanwhile, is not contracted and is thus not capable of dying of fucking emotions, and there's someone we should check up on because she's roughly scheduled to die of fucking emotions roughly around this point in the timeline because she's goddamn Albertine."

I'm sorry but Sasa is third priority at best. I want to help her, really I do. I'm pretty much the first person willing to show sympathy for and sign up to save Sasa from what she could become, but be reasonable here.
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I don't agree that the risk to Mami's wellbeing is beyond our ability to safely account for given that our promise was a bad idea. It's not respect if we make a stupid statement and have to tactfully backtrack on it to avoid making things worse. Worse yet, we're not really doing the smart compromise either by timestopping Mami and THEN handling Sasa.

I don't think there's a good vote option beyond those two.

Sasa contracting would be bad. I want to deter that especially since we know exactly where she is.

Reasonable would be not putting Sasa off in realtime (read: out of timestop.) for no real reward beyond staying the course with a meaningless promise we never should have made in the first place. We're not being reasonable.
 
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It's not a meaningless promise. It's one we made to someone who has trust issues and a canon precedent for having promise-breaking as a trigger. Whether or not it was a good promise to make is irrelevant, the damage is done.
 
AuraTwilight said:
It's not a meaningless promise. It's one we made to someone who has trust issues and a canon precedent for having promise-breaking as a trigger. Whether or not it was a good promise to make is irrelevant, the damage is done.
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It's meaningless because we can easily account for the damage with a simple conversation and a sincere apology.

So yes, we shouldn't have made it, we can account for it, I just want to get the metaphorical barbed hook out with as little damage caused in terms of actual GOALS as possible.

Otherwise, the timestop was a waste of time due to our own blunders.
 
Ugolino said:
It's meaningless because we can easily account for the damage with a simple conversation and a sincere apology.

So yes, we shouldn't have made it, we can account for it, I just want to get the metaphorical barbed hook out with as little damage caused in terms of actual GOALS as possible.
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Or we could not break the promise in the first place. Even if we fix the damage and she believes our apology, her faith that she could take us at our word would forever be damaged.

Otherwise, the timestop was a waste of time due to our own blunders.
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No, it wasn't. Even if we do literally nothing else with Time Stop, we've confirmed Sasa is not a meguca and had nothing to do with Sayaka's weirdness. That's valuable information.

Also Time Stop literally cannot waste time. :U
 
AuraTwilight said:
Also Time Stop literally cannot waste time. :U
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The only limit on time stop... uh, time... is Homu's willingness to use it. So really, any productive conversation with her, or even just general "Homu social link UP" stuff, means the time stop isn't a waste in any sense.
 
Well, it could be the case that she actually likes that outfit and would wear it willingly.

I'm going to ignore that possibility, though. ...I don't want to believe any meguca could be beyond redemption. :V
 
In addition to the Incubators becoming more interested in Sasa because Sabrina talked to her(And the whole 'She doesn't contracted every timeline, so talking to her might affect that' thing), she might make a wish specifically targeting Sabrina if we end up being the straw that broke the camels back because she feels the existence of even more special girls(and us in particular) is too much for her and she just wants to vent her hate on the world by wishing that we were cursed/etc, something to 'beat' us specifically.

She is slightly warped and so likely just as Madoka can make a selfless wish to help others, Sasa might make a selfish(or selfless, depending if she is warped enough to make it a murder-suicide thing) wish to hurt others.

Last point might be a bit strong, but it's possible given she wished for the equivalent of mind-rape powers when she thought it had no real cost to her.
 
Ugolino said:
Sasa and Kyoko of all people?

What?!

That's about as well advised as telling Madoka she should contract for the sake of the universe.
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You sure about that?

If you are I'd love to hear some reasoning for it. I'm not perfectly familiar with the setting.

Also, for the record, I'm suggesting shoving at Kyoko after talking to her. A kind of "call this number to talk to a badly-off meguca".
 
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