Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Except that's not true at all.
1. We have no idea what Sasa's situation is. For all we know, she's T-1 from contracting, and it's already been explained why leaving is a bad idea. We have no excuse for writing her off when we're literally right there.
2. We can apologize to Mami and let her know. I don't see that as screwing with Mami at all.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Yeah, probably the best bet. Notes are impersonal, and Mami has enough abandonment issues already.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I don't care if people think we 'fucked up' something. What's done is done, and we've got to own up to it, not make it worse.
[X] Redshirt Army
-[X] We'll likely come back after Homura drops us off to say bye to Mami, and try talking with Sasa then.
I don't know where this 'we most deal with Sasa right now' thing is coming from, honestly.
We did what we wanted to do.
Let's check on the other girl. If she's contracted, we can even talk to her right now, since timestop would be less intimidating to a magical girl than a civilian one.
[X] Redshirt Army
-[X] We'll likely come back after Homura drops us off to say bye to Mami, and try talking with Sasa then.
I don't know where this 'we most deal with Sasa right now' thing is coming from, honestly.
We did what we wanted to do.
Let's check on the other girl. If she's contracted, we can even talk to her right now, since timestop would be less intimidating to a magical girl than a civilian one.
And if she's contracted then, that's on our heads. Again.
If Sasa contracts, she goes from "manageable" to "major headache and fairly hostile timesink with a pile of issues" and that'll be even more fallout from our misguided approach here.
Generally when there's a screw up and we definitely did with that counterproductive promise- the answer is to try and fix it by changing course.
If Sasa contracts, she goes from "manageable" to "major headache and fairly hostile timesink with a pile of issues" and that'll be even more fallout from our misguided approach here.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
And for all we know, she won't contract in this timeline at all! The risk of her contracting in the ~30 minutes, at most, it'll take to find her again is, while not zero, pretty tiny.
That isn't a risk we should take. Just walking away effectively means this entire trip was basically pointless in terms of what we got done and risks things deteriorating.
There is no sensible reason not to take action here. At all. The first chance we have to actually get something back on the time we've spent setting up...and you want us to just throw it away?
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
[x] Huh. Her being involved in the weirdness around Sayaka contracting was kind of a longshot anyway, but that's still one theory down.
-[x] Maybe I'll do something to make her less likely to be an issue if she contracts later, try and dissuade her from contracting at all, but... now's not the time.
--[x] ... and I'll let you know if I do decide to do anything with her. Due diligence when dealing with potential mind controllers and all that. Probably right after lunch. She should still be in the mall then, right?
[x] Move on to locate other people of interest, since you're already doing search patterns.
-[x] Maybe I'll do something to make her less likely to be an issue if she contracts later, try and dissuade her from contracting at all, but... now's not the time.
--[x] ... and I'll let you know if I do decide to do anything with her. Due diligence when dealing with potential mind controllers and all that. Probably right after lunch. She should still be in the mall then, right?
[x] Move on to locate other people of interest, since you're already doing search patterns.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Nope. Just because she's in front of us right now doesn't make it our responsibility.
If Sasa just so happens to contract in the next five minutes, it's as much our fault as every other magical girl contracting around the world.
I'm not certain I'd go with your plan even if I knew for sure Sasa would contract in the next five minutes. In fact, I would debate whether we should let her contract, or bother Homu to go pick up Mami and come back so we can deal with Sasa right now.
Really, I'm not sure Sasa is worth bothering Homura and Mami over.
Fearmongering.
This is very much a risk we've been taking the entire quest.
If you're worried Sasa will contract in the next 30 minutes, then we've taken this 'risk' 11*24/0.5 times already. Every 30 minutes we went without looking for Sasa or any other Magical Girl to prevent them from contracting.
We've never looked at someone that needed help and decided "nope I don't care, I'm walking away" before.
I don't want to write a vote for someone that does that, and it flies in the face of Sabrina's whole characterization.
"Screw Sasa" isn't a good approach or vote.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
How about "Okay, now I know where she is, so I can come back after I keep my word, so that way I don't cause my friend to worry about me"?
Wait, what am I talking about, thoughtlessly hurting Mami because we consider other things to be more immediately important is absolutely keeping in character for Sabrina.
I actually kinda agree with the notion of leaving her a letter saying "Don't trust the bunnycat!" With a picture of Kyubey.
Yes, I'm sure she's guaranteed to stay put and not do something stupid because she's a character known for good decision making.
If only we had a way to talk to Mami so she didn't worry. Or two.
Muramasa
Best Girl
I agree with the intent. The wording is a bit too flippant though. Feels OoC. Sabrina cares about others more then this. Even with girls as petty as Sasa can be. Sasa isn't that girl yet. We shouldn't treat her as such.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Yes, because she's never worried about us when we were talking to her telepathically! Not ever. And it's not like we told her we weren't going to up and disappear, not at all!
Just because you don't like that line being there, doesn't mean it wasn't said, and doesn't mean it won't impact things.
Reminder that Sabrina is the person who thinks pretty much all magical girls can be redeemed. That wants to give second chances.
That tries to save Oriko, that sees her as redeemable and a fundamentally good person in a bad situation.
That went out of her way to save Nagisa.
That stuck around and helped Ono.
That wanted to save a group of magical girls that'd been extorting people and starving them to death rather than just writing them off to die.
And yet she'd apparently just write Sasa off, decide she's "not important" enough to help when she can? Despite saving Oriko. Despite saving Nagisa. I don't think so. That's just dissonant, and not in a good way.
There's no reason to think a quick explanation and keeping in constant telepathic contact with her the whole time wouldn't be enough to help mitigate Mami's worries. Especially with an apology.
2.If we did, we'd conceal timestop.
3. Probably not a good idea.
That tries to save Oriko, that sees her as redeemable and a fundamentally good person in a bad situation.
That went out of her way to save Nagisa.
That stuck around and helped Ono.
That wanted to save a group of magical girls that'd been extorting people and starving them to death rather than just writing them off to die.
And yet she'd apparently just write Sasa off, decide she's "not important" enough to help when she can? Despite saving Oriko. Despite saving Nagisa. I don't think so. That's just dissonant, and not in a good way.
There's damage control and then there's letting it poison every vote indefinitely. I don't want to treat that line as a good idea and I want to fix the damage it's caused to our ability to do much of anything with this set of votes.
There's no reason to think a quick explanation and keeping in constant telepathic contact with her the whole time wouldn't be enough to help mitigate Mami's worries. Especially with an apology.
Witchbombing anyone is still suicidal. That isn't information we can risk spreading at the moment and Sasa is...rash.
1. Not off the bat.
2.If we did, we'd conceal timestop.
3. Probably not a good idea.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
[Q] Makes sense.
-[Q] Replace your own presence Mami is so attached to, with KB coms.
I think it's a bad idea, because what Sasa hates, is people she considers superior to her, and we've got magic, she doesn't... we'd be basically trapping her in a barrier... hell, even our clothes make us look above her, though that's an easy one, as we can ditch the coat.
[Q] Take off your longcoat.
-[Q] Put it on Homu.
--[Q] Continue as if nothing had happened.
(Actually, add a hat. And her glasses. And
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To put it bluntly: something came up. We apologize to Mami, say we'll be right there. This is really not an issue worth screwing the Sasa problem over for because it's literally minutes and we have telepathy.
[x]Hey, Homura...I'm going to try talking to her, okay?
[x]Ask her to let you out of timestop just out of sight. Detransform first.
[x]Walk up to Sasa. Ping Mami.
-[x]Let Mami know roughly what came up. Talking with Homura...Something came up, and we need to talk to someone for a bit out of timestop. We...we'll be back with her as soon as we can...We're sorry we broke our word...It's not dangerous at all, it's just...something we should do.
--[x]Is she okay with this? We'll try and be back as soon as we can, we can talk to her via telepathy the whole time.
[x]Talk to Sasa.Hi. What's up?
-[x]You look like something's bothering you. Want to talk about it?
[x]Talk to Mami via telepathy the whole time. Keep in contact, make sure she's okay...
When you can avoid having to apologize to Mami again for the umpteenth time (which is getting rather old, by the way), why not take that opportunity?
Julian Bradshaw
MSY Historian
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[X] Redshirt Army
Though I agree with Muramasa in that the wording is currently a bit flippant. Nevertheless, we cannot end timestop away from the school roof. And is it even possible to send a telepathic message to someone outside of timestop?
Though I agree with Muramasa in that the wording is currently a bit flippant. Nevertheless, we cannot end timestop away from the school roof. And is it even possible to send a telepathic message to someone outside of timestop?
Because we're throwing Sasa under the bus, which is just as bad an idea now as it was when the quest wanted to do it to Ono, or to kill Oriko...etc etc.
But, hey, it's only Sasa, right? It's not like we were worried about her being a problem, right? Or that Sabrina is supposed to help people and this basically has her disregarding Sasa's life being at risk, right?