Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Either of you has the power to end the meme through one simple action: changing your avatar.
I'M NOT GIVING IN TO THESE TACTICS.
Besides, I like blueberry avatars.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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They are good avatars.I'M NOT GIVING IN TO THESE TACTICS.
Besides, I like blueberry avatars.
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Snow
Doka
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Linguistics geekery time!I mean, technically there's no such thing as the letter "y" in Japanese at all. There are just three syllables romanized as "ya", "yu", and "yo".
Also, the only syllable in Japanese that doesn't end with a vowel is "n", so aside from foreign meguca almost everyone we meet is going to have a name ending in a vowel.
Basically, writing and speech are different, and how you write the same sound varies according to language (and dialects too). In English, the letter 'y' is indeed used for several vowels as well as a consonant (written as [j] in the International Phonetic Alphabet). In most romanisations of Japanese, 'y' is only used to write the consonant [j]. And the native Japanese writing systems (kanji, hiragana, katakana) obviously don't have the letter 'y' since they're not the Latin alphabet, but as pointed out, the consonant [j] is accounted for as well.
I was going to go into more detail, but then I realised it'd be much easier to just link the Wikipedia page instead: Y - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It explains things better than I could anyway.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
THIS UNION WILL CLEAN THE NAME OF THE SAKURA FAMILY!I agree!
Clearly it would be the Sakura name that would be taken!
Liar. I bet you wrote that Wikipedia page and want everybody to say "oh, that Wikipedia page is no nicely written and informative, you could never be this concise and smart, Snow."I was going to go into more detail, but then I realised it'd be much easier to just link the Wikipedia page instead: Y - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It explains things better than I could anyway.
Only for you to reveal that the one to have written this page to have been, in fact...!
I mean it was you, Snow!
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Madoka would never do that!THIS UNION WILL CLEAN THE NAME OF THE SAKURA FAMILY!
Liar. I bet you wrote that Wikipedia page and want everybody to say "oh, that Wikipedia page is no nicely written and informative, you could never be this concise and smart, Snow."
Only for you to reveal that the one to have written this page to have been, in fact...!
I mean it was you, Snow!
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
"N-n-no...! Of course not... don't need fake praise... perish the thought..."Madoka would never do that!
*Twiddles thumbs*
Anomalous Materials pt. 12
"Probably not," you agree. "Though some days I wonder. In any case... Even if I might be naive... are you really one to talk, Miss Save-the-world?"
She rocks back a little, outrage flickering across her face even as you press the attack.
"We're all naive in some ways. We're all hopeful about some things. I just happen to be more hopeful in general," you say, leaning forward on the table to give your words emphasis, pulling your chair up a little. "Easier, though?" you ask, voice dropping to something between a growl and a snarl.
"Easier? That, Oriko-" your eyes narrow to slits, annoyance bubbling. To be honest, love Kirika she might - but here and now, she's insulting their relationship and Kirika herself. "Is you dying easier for Kirika? Or any of the people who owe you their lives?"
Oriko falls silent, her eyes dipping to the table.
"I-it's not," Kirika whispers, voice shaking as she wraps herself around the seer a little tighter. "It's not it's not it's not. I don't want you to die, Oriko, I don't want you to."
"I-" Oriko's voice catches in her throat, her hand closing over Kirika's. "I know."
You exhale, annoyance dying, drained away. You can't exactly sustain it, in the face of that. "You don't want to. Kirika doesn't want you to. I don't want you to," you say, voice steely. You keep your gaze on Oriko, icy blue eyes unyielding even if she doesn't meet them. "You don't have to. It's never hopeless, and I am never going to give up on you." You flick your eyes over to Kirika. "Neither is Kirika."
Kirika nods. "I won't," she agrees, voice steady and clear for a moment before it cracks. "O-Oriko, please."
"You are worth fighting for," you say.
It's that simple.
Perhaps, once, you thought her your enemy.
That was then, this is now.
"And it hurts to see you give up on yourself," you tell Oriko. "Because you don't have to die. Giving up means it's over. Giving up means losing. I can't and I won't give up."
"I know you won't give up," Oriko says, looking tired.
"Mmmmm," you agree. "I know I'm hammering the point hard, Oriko. But I want you to understand where I'm coming from. And Kirika, you won't give up either, will you?"
The black haired girl shakes her head.
"There you have it. And, well, to be honest, Oriko... I reckon that people like you and me..." you smirk a little, a wry little quirk of your lips. "I reckon that we're here because we're meant to beat the odds. This isn't an anime, no. But cliché or not, there is hope - for everyone. That includes you, Oriko."
"We've... We've already beaten the odds," Kirika whispers. "O-Oriko. We have."
"Yeah," you agree, jumping on the point. "I mean, you're still here, right?"
Oriko sighs. "It's not the same."
"Why not?" you say. "You were so convinced you'd die. And you didn't." Your smirk strengthens a little. "Again -and I'll say it as many times as I need to- you are worth fighting for. What you're going through, what we're facing... none of it's insurmountable."
She sighs again, but doesn't contradict you.
You nod slowly. "I'm going to tell you about that other Oriko," you say. "And maybe it won't let you come to an epiphany, just like that - but maybe it will."
Oriko shrugs with one shoulder. Nevertheless, she straightens a little and meets your eyes. Kirika looks up at you too, faint curiosity peeking through her worry.
Absently, you check your privacy rings - all three of them are still glowing in your senses, perfectly functional. "About a week from now, or perhaps a little more," you murmur. "One night, you'll be out wandering a public park, because you didn't want to be home alone."
"Alone?" Oriko asks, voice toneless.
Your turn to shrug. "That you hadn't gotten Kirika to live with you."
"Ah," Oriko says. "That's... disappointing." There's something in her eyes that tells you that she knows exactly why that other her wouldn't have wanted to be at home without Kirika in it.
She'd found her father's body after he'd hung himself.
"Perhaps," you say, shaking those thoughts free. "But then... you meet a little green haired girl in the park - perhaps you know her."
"Chitose Yuma," Oriko murmurs. "Miss Sakura's current protégé."
"That's her," you agree. "You talk it out a bit. The next day, you have a vision of her dying. Her heart simply giving out from the chronic abuse her shitstain of a mother heaped upon her." And if your voice is a bit more biting than it usually is, who could blame you?
Not Kirika, listening with hopeful, worried eyes
Not Oriko, barely breathing as she watches you.
"So you saved her," you say. "And there was a magical girl, Sasa Yuuki, from Kasamino. She comes after the territory here, and... you and Kirika fight her off. And in doing so, in protecting each other..." You smile at Oriko. "You unlock your powers fully. Fighting wholeheartedly. You go on to fight Walpurgisnacht."
"And, I presume, we die," Oriko says. She shakes her head. "I don't see how that was supposed to help."
You purse your lips, considering the matter. The fact is, you could tell her, in as many words, what that other Oriko's realisation was. You just don't know whether it'd do any good.
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Mmmm. Uncertainty all around.
She rocks back a little, outrage flickering across her face even as you press the attack.
"We're all naive in some ways. We're all hopeful about some things. I just happen to be more hopeful in general," you say, leaning forward on the table to give your words emphasis, pulling your chair up a little. "Easier, though?" you ask, voice dropping to something between a growl and a snarl.
"Easier? That, Oriko-" your eyes narrow to slits, annoyance bubbling. To be honest, love Kirika she might - but here and now, she's insulting their relationship and Kirika herself. "Is you dying easier for Kirika? Or any of the people who owe you their lives?"
Oriko falls silent, her eyes dipping to the table.
"I-it's not," Kirika whispers, voice shaking as she wraps herself around the seer a little tighter. "It's not it's not it's not. I don't want you to die, Oriko, I don't want you to."
"I-" Oriko's voice catches in her throat, her hand closing over Kirika's. "I know."
You exhale, annoyance dying, drained away. You can't exactly sustain it, in the face of that. "You don't want to. Kirika doesn't want you to. I don't want you to," you say, voice steely. You keep your gaze on Oriko, icy blue eyes unyielding even if she doesn't meet them. "You don't have to. It's never hopeless, and I am never going to give up on you." You flick your eyes over to Kirika. "Neither is Kirika."
Kirika nods. "I won't," she agrees, voice steady and clear for a moment before it cracks. "O-Oriko, please."
"You are worth fighting for," you say.
It's that simple.
Perhaps, once, you thought her your enemy.
That was then, this is now.
"And it hurts to see you give up on yourself," you tell Oriko. "Because you don't have to die. Giving up means it's over. Giving up means losing. I can't and I won't give up."
"I know you won't give up," Oriko says, looking tired.
"Mmmmm," you agree. "I know I'm hammering the point hard, Oriko. But I want you to understand where I'm coming from. And Kirika, you won't give up either, will you?"
The black haired girl shakes her head.
"There you have it. And, well, to be honest, Oriko... I reckon that people like you and me..." you smirk a little, a wry little quirk of your lips. "I reckon that we're here because we're meant to beat the odds. This isn't an anime, no. But cliché or not, there is hope - for everyone. That includes you, Oriko."
"We've... We've already beaten the odds," Kirika whispers. "O-Oriko. We have."
"Yeah," you agree, jumping on the point. "I mean, you're still here, right?"
Oriko sighs. "It's not the same."
"Why not?" you say. "You were so convinced you'd die. And you didn't." Your smirk strengthens a little. "Again -and I'll say it as many times as I need to- you are worth fighting for. What you're going through, what we're facing... none of it's insurmountable."
She sighs again, but doesn't contradict you.
You nod slowly. "I'm going to tell you about that other Oriko," you say. "And maybe it won't let you come to an epiphany, just like that - but maybe it will."
Oriko shrugs with one shoulder. Nevertheless, she straightens a little and meets your eyes. Kirika looks up at you too, faint curiosity peeking through her worry.
Absently, you check your privacy rings - all three of them are still glowing in your senses, perfectly functional. "About a week from now, or perhaps a little more," you murmur. "One night, you'll be out wandering a public park, because you didn't want to be home alone."
"Alone?" Oriko asks, voice toneless.
Your turn to shrug. "That you hadn't gotten Kirika to live with you."
"Ah," Oriko says. "That's... disappointing." There's something in her eyes that tells you that she knows exactly why that other her wouldn't have wanted to be at home without Kirika in it.
She'd found her father's body after he'd hung himself.
"Perhaps," you say, shaking those thoughts free. "But then... you meet a little green haired girl in the park - perhaps you know her."
"Chitose Yuma," Oriko murmurs. "Miss Sakura's current protégé."
"That's her," you agree. "You talk it out a bit. The next day, you have a vision of her dying. Her heart simply giving out from the chronic abuse her shitstain of a mother heaped upon her." And if your voice is a bit more biting than it usually is, who could blame you?
Not Kirika, listening with hopeful, worried eyes
Not Oriko, barely breathing as she watches you.
"So you saved her," you say. "And there was a magical girl, Sasa Yuuki, from Kasamino. She comes after the territory here, and... you and Kirika fight her off. And in doing so, in protecting each other..." You smile at Oriko. "You unlock your powers fully. Fighting wholeheartedly. You go on to fight Walpurgisnacht."
"And, I presume, we die," Oriko says. She shakes her head. "I don't see how that was supposed to help."
You purse your lips, considering the matter. The fact is, you could tell her, in as many words, what that other Oriko's realisation was. You just don't know whether it'd do any good.
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Mmmm. Uncertainty all around.
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Shouldn't this be Kirika?
Loktarogar
The Apex of Cuddling
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- Brazil
Hey hello Koko.
- Location
- Malaysia
I think that supposed to be Oriko. Kirika's more casual than that.
So, did she die in that spin-off?
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
[] Smile. "It's a step. That Oriko was... admirable, and I think you can do as well, if not better than her. I doubt you would accept her epiphany as your own were I to simply tell it straight to you... We can beat the odds; right now it's just a matter of whether you will try or not."
OK, does anybody think we can somehow get Homura to let O&K out to hunt? She almost completely stonewalled us last time we asked, but maybe there's a way if we insist? But not insist too much... Agh.
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I feel that Oriko needs further convincing on just how awesome her alternate timeline self was.
"It helps because the other Oriko gained LASERS. That's like at least 20% cooler than the stupid orbs you're using now. She could also make a mean sponge cake with the aid of the cake gods! How metal is that?"
pantherasapiens
you were always my best friend
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- somewhere over your shoulder
So, Mami is the solution to the Oriko problem. How did we not notice that?
FelOnyx
Love and Peace!
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- Gunsmoke
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Mami is the solution to all problems.
- Location
- Malaysia