[x]Try and sense how high the pair's grief levels are remotely if it's at all possible.
[x]Detransform, and knock.
[x]If one or both answer...
-[x]Hi! We're Sabrina. It's Masami, right? We're a new magical girl from to the east, and thought we'd introduce ourselves- just being neighborly.

I'm gonna butcher yer vote there Ugo.
 
Leave out Walpurgisnight and Oriko completely, give her vague info about the state of affairs re: us staying with Mami and Homu, and keep it at "we're around if you ever need the help".

Of course when she turns out to be a Lich, this plan'll be sunk anyway.

Masami is still a Mitakihara magical girl. The Oriko situation and Walpurgisnacht still effect her, if distantly. I'm not sure I can agree with your approach here.
 
[x] Dirtnap

I'm wary of the idea of immediate grief cleansings. I'd rather get a decent impression of Masami first. Also a no to draining grief seeds. That needs space and we have nowhere to put the excess grief right now.
 
[]Try and sense how high the pair's grief levels are remotely if it's at all possible.
[]Detransform, and knock.
[]If one or both answer...
-[]Hi! We're Sabrina. It's Masami, right? We're a new magical girl from to the east, and thought we'd introduce ourselves- just being neighborly.


[x] Dirtnap

EDIT: For ease of tallying.
 
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[x] Dirtnap

because part of the reason we came out here to meet her is to prevent her from showing up at Mami's doorstep and dropping the Lich bomb on her before we break it to her ourselves. Why are we giving her Mami's address and asking her to invite herself in when we can't even be sure of that yet.

Also, do we or do we not namedrop Mami?
 
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[x] Dirtnap

I'm wary of the idea of immediate grief cleansings. I'd rather get a decent impression of Masami first. Also a no to draining grief seeds. That needs space and we have nowhere to put the excess grief right now.
Look, unless she feeds babies to familiars while cackling in glee and wading in the blood of the innocent, we are going to cleanse and help her either sooner or later. If she's iredeemable, all the cleansings we do now aren't going to change the fact we'd quietly crack her gem and disappear the body later anyway, so why hold off on being helpful and assume the best case scenario?

We always have room for spare grief. Call Kyubey for disposal if we absolutely need to, but that's not really a good reason not to cleanse.
 
Lesbians! Lesbians everywhere!

I can't help but wonder if my theory on Incubators specifically targeting lesbians as potential contracts for faster witch-outs is true.
I think that lesbianism is just a reasonable outcome of only girls being able to be meguca and therefore a huge chasm between the experiences of them and normal people. They're driven together by shared experiences and relying on each other with their lives in battle. That kind of environment just promotes attachment.
 
So, we went straight for Masami, huh? I would have liked to ask Homura if she knew anything about this girl first. I'm not sure if I feel alright about not saying about Walpurgis. This isn't like the situation with Kyouko. Masami actually lives in the city that it's going to try and destroy. We should at least warn her about it. Plus, I'm not sure if the current write-ins are going to work before leaving. Doesn't she also actively avoid other magical girls? Why the heck would she trust or open the door to some complete stranger magical girl? Bit too busy to come up with a write-in right now.
 
There's also the cultural aspect that Japan, despite not really condoning 'serious', 'lifestyle' homosexuality, has no problems with same-sex partnerships in adolescence, especially among girls. The reason you see so much schoolgirl lesbian crushes in your japanese animus and mangoes is that it's pretty much a trope for girls to 'practice' on each other so they can have experience and being good girlfriends and lovers without seeming like they're too experienced for a real man.

Which is sort of messed up. But it makes the cultural mindset really rife for 14 year old megucas to default to a comrade-in-arms because hey, their life expectancy isn't going to last longer than the equivalent high school fling anyway.

Not to be a negative nancy or anything but a lot of the meguca fandom ships aren't founded on anything very solid.
 
Look, unless she feeds babies to familiars while cackling in glee and wading in the blood of the innocent, we are going to cleanse and help her either sooner or later. If she's iredeemable, all the cleansings we do now aren't going to change the fact we'd quietly crack her gem and disappear the body later anyway, so why hold off on being helpful and assume the best case scenario?

We always have room for spare grief. Call Kyubey for disposal if we absolutely need to, but that's not really a good reason not to cleanse.

*sigh* We probably are going to cleanse her Ugo. I just dislike the cleanse first, ask questions later approach you seem to prefer. Everyone we've cleansed at this point is a known factor. Masami is new territory. We have no idea how she'll react to our power, positive or negative. That's why I want an impression on her first. Also I'd rather she not spread the word about our powers too much or things could get rather messy in Mitakihara in short order. I'd want her to keep it secret. Of course if there's someone that really needs our power right now...

Anyway, as for Kyubey, well Oriko should still have him in a cage. So if he dupes we'd know about it. We drained a seed in Oriko's back yard. Masami has no backyard far as I can tell. To avoid collateral, we should take the draining process elsewhere.
 
*sigh* We probably are going to cleanse her Ugo. I just dislike the cleanse first, ask questions later approach you seem to prefer. Everyone we've cleansed at this point is a known factor. Masami is new territory. We have no idea how she'll react to our power, positive or negative. That's why I want an impression on her first. Also I'd rather she not spread the word about our powers too much or things could get rather messy in Mitakihara in short order. I'd want her to keep it secret. Of course if there's someone that really needs our power right now...

Anyway, as for Kyubey, well Oriko should still have him in a cage. So if he dupes we'd know about it. We drained a seed in Oriko's back yard. Masami has no backyard far as I can tell. To avoid collateral, we should take the draining process elsewhere.
We go in and make a positive first impression. Standing around and risking botched diplomacy by pointlessly holding things back...doesn't. As for spreading the word...good. That matches our longer term goals anyway.

And I doubt Kyubey'd play along with the Oriko cage for too long except as part of a gambit, and we can always call to have him "released". We can drain outside.
 
We go in and make a positive first impression. Standing around and risking botched diplomacy by pointlessly holding things back...doesn't. As for spreading the word...good. That matches our longer term goals anyway.

Long term we might be able to get things under control. Short term our powers are valuable and can cause all kinds of infighting and collateral. That's not something we want Ugo.

We go in and make a positive first impression.

Yeah, we don't need to cleanse gems to do that. We can make a perfectly good first impression by being neighborly, introducing ourselves in a generally friendly manner, not destroying their apartment, not trying to claim their territory. Things like that.

And we'll probably cleanse their gems anyway.
 
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...Which is all part and parcel of the plan that doesn't involve pointlessly hiding "lol cleansing".

We literally have nothing to lose by spreading the word since the response to "CLEANSE OUR GEMS" is pretty much going to be "sure just hold it out" unless it's literally meguca hitler. Value only becomes a problem if someone's holding it back- and we don't have plans to.
 
...Which is all part and parcel of the plan that doesn't involve pointlessly hiding "lol cleansing".

We literally have nothing to lose by spreading the word since the response to "CLEANSE OUR GEMS" is pretty much going to be "sure just hold it out" unless it's literally meguca hitler. Value only becomes a problem if someone's holding it back- and we don't have plans to.

An open secret like Sabrina will invite everyone, including the meguca hitlers as you call them and really it only takes one bad magical girl to ruin everything. Not everyone can stay in Mitakihara. There will be magical girls that want to take Sabrina with them to a place she can't be right now and drained grief seeds are only a temporary solution. To say, there's not going to be conflict because of Sabrina's power is absurd.
 
Honestly, Sabrina's power being revealed to the magic world is going to happen eventually. When that time comes I hope Sabrina has discovered as many grief cleansing methods as possible to take care of the many different situations she'll encounter. Right now, what we've learned limits our reach to just the city and only to magical girls right in front of us. This isn't ideal, and makes it all but certain that we're not ready for a massive migration of magical girls right now.

We can change this but we need to get going with the GRIEF science (gasp). The less reliant magical girls are with grief seeds (and eventually Sabrina as well) the better.
 
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Right now, what we've learned limits our reach to just the city and only to magical girls right in front of us.
I disagree with this assessment. Consider the amount of grief we've pulled out of various Meguca over the past few days even with massive amounts of combat, healing, and general power use. A thousand grief marbles and some change. Now consider the grief to blot out the sky and run basketballs of grief around in addition that cleansing a grief seed produced. We're probably talking about at least 1,000x, likely a couple magnitudes more, grief stored in a single grief seed than we've cleansed out of all the magical girls we've been treating so far.

It's quite plausible that a single fully cleansed grief seed could last a meguca for years. The grief density we observed in cleansing a grief seed is enormous. It's likely that the length a single grief seed could last a meguca is more dependent on the internal production of a cleansed grief seed, which is something we might want to investigate itself, the figurative shelf life if you will. Our preliminary experiments don't seem to indicate a significant production of grief from the seed though in that state compared to its total capacity. Even if it produces 100x the amount of grief that an active meguca does the grief seed would still last around a year.

Based on what we've seen so far though we could likely give each meguca a cleansed grief seed once a year and never see them otherwise and they could go about normal life the rest of the time. Taking a plane to Mitakihara once a year is not that big of an inconvenience. Or perhaps some sort of secure courier service if even the plane trip is too much.

We need some long term studies of the grief accumulation of a cleansed grief seed, but normal grief seeds don't resurrect into witches very quickly in general as oftentimes meguca will keep a small supply of grief seeds without prompting that issue. From this I don't think that their grief generation rate can be that high, otherwise it would be a constant issue.

The possibility exists of some sort of reverse grief spiral where grief seeds generate less grief at near full grief instead of the positive feedback loop typical in meguca witching out, I don't find that terribly likely though.
 
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Agreed on the need for science, but strongly disagree that keeping it hidden should be a priority or that it'll be helpful.
we probably dont need to keep it all secret we could ask them to only let it be known we can clean griefseeds and make superseeds for now.
That way people who want their filled grief seeds recycled can send them with the post, and we can send them back as superseeds, ofcourse for a small fee atleast equal to the postal cost we wouldnt want to have to pay for sending their seeds back would we?
Basically if they dont know we can clean soulgems and think its limited to seeds it dont matter that much where we are, the post Work fast in most of the World.
 
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