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Grief Math!!!

Firnagzen said:
Day to day living - A fraction to a marble-ish.
Power use - Anywhere from three or four to double digits.
Emotional trauma - Lots.
Disassemble a Witch - All da marbles
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Lets assume that the average magical girl produces a marble of grief per day of general living. Lets also assume they fight a Witch every two days and that each fight produces 20 marbles.

Thus we can say this theoretical magical girl produces 4,017.75 marbles of grief per year.

Toy marbles are generally between 1/2 an inch to an inch. Lets assume grief marbles are 1inch in diameter, 2.54cm, and are perfect spheres. This gives them a volume of:

V = 4/3*Pi*1.27^3 = 8.58cm^3.

So the total volume of grief a theoretical magical girl produces per year is 34,473.29cm^3.

Firnagzen said:
You look around. Depending from your shoulders are ten meter long swathes of the night sky of an alien world carved into reality., your wings, larger than you've ever made before. You might actually be able to fly with these. The air is thick with hundreds of basketball sized balls of Grief, drifting aimlessly about in the air and bumping into each other with dull clacks. In your hand is a Grief Seed -maybe it's just a Seed now since there isn't any Grief inside?- unlike any other you've seen, clear crystal with a single inky black spot in the exact center instead of midnight black obsidian.
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NBA regulation baskballs are between 74.93cm to 75.88cm in circumference. Assuming these are the lower end of the size spectrum:

74.93 = Pi*D
D = 74.93/Pi = 23.85cm

V = 4/3*Pi*11.93^3 = 7,103.36cm^3

We are told there are hundreds of basketballs. The smallest number that fits this description is 200 so using that the total volume of grief extracted is:

V = 200 * 7,103.36 = 1,420,671.83cm^3

This volume of grief is 41.21 times larger then the estimated grief produced by a single theoretical magical girl.

So theoretically a single cleansed grief seed could sustain one magical girl approximately 41 years or a group of say four magical girls for a decade.

This of course does not factor in grief production by the seed since that is as of yet unknown.
 
UberJJK said:
Time for...

Grief Math!!!



Lets assume that the average magical girl produces a marble of grief per day of general living. Lets also assume they fight a Witch every two days and that each fight produces 20 marbles.

Thus we can say this theoretical magical girl produces 4,017.75 marbles of grief per year.

Toy marbles are generally between 1/2 an inch to an inch. Lets assume grief marbles are 1inch in diameter, 2.54cm, and are perfect spheres. This gives them a volume of:

V = 4/3*Pi*1.27^3 = 8.58cm^3.

So the total volume of grief a theoretical magical girl produces per year is 34,473.29cm^3.



NBA regulation baskballs are between 74.93cm to 75.88cm in circumference. Assuming these are the lower end of the size spectrum:

74.93 = Pi*D
D = 74.93/Pi = 23.85cm

V = 4/3*Pi*11.93^3 = 7,103.36cm^3

We are told there are hundreds of basketballs. The smallest number that fits this description is 200 so using that the total volume of grief extracted is:

V = 200 * 7,103.36 = 1,420,671.83cm^3

This volume of grief is 41.21 times larger then the estimated grief produced by a single theoretical magical girl.

So theoretically a single cleansed grief seed could sustain one magical girl approximately 41 years or a group of say four magical girls for a decade.

This of course does not factor in grief production by the seed since that is as of yet unknown.
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You also forgot to account for the wings, and [REDACTED], though to be fair neither is entirely your fault.
 
UberJJK said:
Time for...

Grief Math!!!



Lets assume that the average magical girl produces a marble of grief per day of general living. Lets also assume they fight a Witch every two days and that each fight produces 20 marbles.

Thus we can say this theoretical magical girl produces 4,017.75 marbles of grief per year.

Toy marbles are generally between 1/2 an inch to an inch. Lets assume grief marbles are 1inch in diameter, 2.54cm, and are perfect spheres. This gives them a volume of:

V = 4/3*Pi*1.27^3 = 8.58cm^3.

So the total volume of grief a theoretical magical girl produces per year is 34,473.29cm^3.



NBA regulation baskballs are between 74.93cm to 75.88cm in circumference. Assuming these are the lower end of the size spectrum:

74.93 = Pi*D
D = 74.93/Pi = 23.85cm

V = 4/3*Pi*11.93^3 = 7,103.36cm^3

We are told there are hundreds of basketballs. The smallest number that fits this description is 200 so using that the total volume of grief extracted is:

V = 200 * 7,103.36 = 1,420,671.83cm^3

This volume of grief is 41.21 times larger then the estimated grief produced by a single theoretical magical girl.

So theoretically a single cleansed grief seed could sustain one magical girl approximately 41 years or a group of say four magical girls for a decade.

This of course does not factor in grief production by the seed since that is as of yet unknown.
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Then there is the fact that if possible they would probably like to be able to use their magic for more than just staying alive.
 
Firnagzen said:
You also forgot to account for the wings, and [REDACTED], though to be fair neither is entirely your fault.
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I didn't factor in the wings since we only know they are 10m long. We don't know what shape they are in or any other dimensions so trying to estimate the amount of grief in them is impractical. Not to mention that wings likely have a different grief density then the 'solid' grief in our marbles.

Hmm. I wonder what [REDACTED] is. It can't be the grief production by the seed since I already mentioned excluding that.

Looks like it's, SCIENCE TIME!
 
UberJJK said:
I didn't factor in the wings since we only know they are 10m long. We don't know what shape they are in or any other dimensions so trying to estimate the amount of grief in them is impractical. Not to mention that wings likely have a different grief density then the 'solid' grief in our marbles.

Hmm. I wonder what [REDACTED] is. It can't be the grief production by the seed since I already mentioned excluding that.

Looks like it's, SCIENCE TIME!
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As I said, neither is your fault.
 
tarrangar said:
Then there is the fact that if possible they would probably like to be able to use their magic for more than just staying alive.
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He accounted for an extra 20 marbles every 2 days. If this is used for having fun that's fine. If it's used for fighting witches they gain extra grief seeds they can again spend on having fun. Either way there's a fairly generous allowance there for other stuff.
 
[x] Dirtnap

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For the record, I think playing things close to the chest is a better plan until we learn more about the megucas inside. Sorry Sayaka, I'll have to agree with Kyouko on this one.
 
Back to an earlier topic. Maxing out the hover board should be relatively easy. Just add straps to the feet and your done. But really, if we wanted to, we could just make a grief platform and travel on that. Not as cool looking but it pretty much does the exact same thing and we can almost certainly have others ride with us.

That said, I still think we should learn how to use wings. Wings have uses outside of travel. They can be weaponized and used defensively. Probably not practical for most witch fights but where almost certainly going to see fighting outside of those.
 
Mobile grief throne, guys. A flying grief throne on which Sabrina sits reclining with a wine glass in hand while grief blades rip apart everything threatening within a hundred meter radius. It will be GLORIOUS!
 
UberJJK said:
Lesbians! Lesbians everywhere!

I can't help but wonder if my theory on Incubators specifically targeting lesbians as potential contracts for faster witch-outs is true.
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I think it is pretty clear that the Incubators, even if they don't understand emotions, have at least worked out a very efficient set of parameters for Meguca candidates. The turnaround time from contracting to witching out seems to be rather swift except for carefully cultivated recruiter-examples like Mami. Certainly they understand what will drive Grief production in a Meguca, even if not why. It's probably not unreasonable to assume that girls dealing with their sexuality in the confused period of adolescence are more emotionally vulnerable though note Kyubey ran the same scam on Sayaka, who was explicitly contracting to help her (male) crush.

It's probably a "bonus" from their perspective rather than something they actively require from a candidate. Some form of existing emotional vulnerability or even mental illness seems to be the most compelling factor in their choices, aside from judas-goats like Mami.

inverted_helix said:
I think that lesbianism is just a reasonable outcome of only girls being able to be meguca and therefore a huge chasm between the experiences of them and normal people. They're driven together by shared experiences and relying on each other with their lives in battle. That kind of environment just promotes attachment.
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The average Meguca doesn't live long enough for any of this to be a factor. Also soldiers tend to form tightly-knit bonds based on shared experiences that are hard for people outside their field to understand, without (jokes about the USMC aside) being raging hotbeds of homosexual lust. The Magical Girls are not actually cut off from society or cloistered the way you see in other cases of situational homosexuality; to wit, prisons and (allegedly) any number of medieval religious orders.

Also worth noting that boys can contract, the Incubators just choose not to have them do so. Gen explained it as being that teenage boys are both more selfish and more emotionally grounded than teenage girls, and so less efficient sources of Grief.

AuraTwilight said:
There's also the cultural aspect that Japan, despite not really condoning 'serious', 'lifestyle' homosexuality, has no problems with same-sex partnerships in adolescence, especially among girls. The reason you see so much schoolgirl lesbian crushes in your japanese animus and mangoes is that it's pretty much a trope for girls to 'practice' on each other so they can have experience and being good girlfriends and lovers without seeming like they're too experienced for a real man.

Which is sort of messed up. But it makes the cultural mindset really rife for 14 year old megucas to default to a comrade-in-arms because hey, their life expectancy isn't going to last longer than the equivalent high school fling anyway.

Not to be a negative nancy or anything but a lot of the meguca fandom ships aren't founded on anything very solid.
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And this is pretty much the Doylist explanation for about 80% of all yuri.



Although I think we're forgetting one other possibility here. We are theorizing that Masami is a true lich. Well, if she's lost her body, it seems within her capabilities to take over another body. I think Gen said something to that effect that was quoted earlier? Maybe she's puppeting another Meguca's body and for whatever reason still couldn't bring herself to crush the Soul Gem...
 
Ethereal Vitali said:
I agree. Wings are so much cooler than hoverboards. Hoverboards are just boring.
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What about a hover scooter? Handgrips will make it easier to stay on it.

With our power, we can enforce a paradigm shift, recruit hundreds of meguca, a megucarmy.
We can have them don grief armor, and fly them around...

 
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