I have updated my post here on the various proposed win conditions and added some links and clarification. I haven't gone through the various dewitching discussions yet though.

Please let me know if there's anything you would like me to add or change.
 
I have updated my post here on the various proposed win conditions and added some links and clarification. I haven't gone through the various dewitching discussions yet though.

Please let me know if there's anything you would like me to add or change.
Here's another possible win condition:

Make the existence of witches physically impossible under any condition.

It's very much long-term, but...

Being a witch is more suffering than being meguca...
 
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This may fall under the "make meguca independant from griefseeds" thing, but another possibility is to stabilize/redeem/save witches, and then make this contagious/persistent somehow.

If becoming a witch is not negative anymore, weve arguably won at that front too.
Although that takes a bit of thinking how the "system" would then look like in the long term.
 
stabilize/redeem/save witches

Is this like Sayaka and Nagisa during Rebellion? Because that's the only vision I got from your description. To stabilize them means shit if they can't get back to their daily life outside meguca business. We must find a different method than Madokami though, because we sure can't repeal our wish.
 
Here's another possible win condition:

Make the existence of witches physically impossible under any condition.

It's very much long-term, but...

Being a witch is more suffering than being meguca...

I have included a reference to that under the 'dewitching' bit (which I have just added). The ways of making Witching impossible are pretty much covered already (either stopping all contracts or ascending to godhood) though I need to elaborate on the godhood argument.
 
Guys. Guys. I just realized something. We're planning on doing dewitching. Homura carries around Grief Seeds from past timelines, including possibly Oktavias, Candeloros, and Ophelias. This could get complicated.
 
Guys. Guys. I just realized something. We're planning on doing dewitching. Homura carries around Grief Seeds from past timelines, including possibly Oktavias, Candeloros, and Ophelias. This could get complicated.
One night, Sabrina forgets to turn off her dewitching swag before bed, and she wakes up covered in Mamis?
 
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Guys. Guys. I just realized something. We're planning on doing dewitching. Homura carries around Grief Seeds from past timelines, including possibly Oktavias, Candeloros, and Ophelias. This could get complicated.
Considering Homura, it's entirely possible that she looks to make sure to gather the grief seeds of her friends, and avoid using them. She's not openly sentimental, but she really is. When we've got an idea for how to go about de-witching, we really need to talk to Homura about that.

One night, Sabrina forgets to turn off her dewitching swag before bed, and wakes up covered in Mamis?
There are worse ways to wake up.
 
Considering Homura, it's entirely possible that she looks to make sure to gather the grief seeds of her friends, and avoid using them. She's not openly sentimental, but she really is. When we've got an idea for how to go about de-witching, we really need to talk to Homura about that.

There's probably also the pragmatic reason of Kyubey being like "lol thanks for the greef sid but why does it have the same energy signature as living magical girls hmmmmmmmmmmmm :3"
 
Considering Homura, it's entirely possible that she looks to make sure to gather the grief seeds of her friends, and avoid using them. She's not openly sentimental, but she really is. When we've got an idea for how to go about de-witching, we really need to talk to Homura about that.

She's actively collecting them. Since the second loop and beyond. :o She may even remember the tiny little details that marked each Grief Seeds as to be different. Damn Homura.

But not all the loops produced Grief Seeds for Mami and Kyouko. Sayaka though.... she may Witch out at every loop. Hoho, how terrifying.

Too bad she never gets to collect Madoka's Grief Seed, because Krimhield.

However, she may even actively avoiding collecting the girls' Grief Seeds too. Don't want to remember herself as a failure at every loop maybe? Can't ignore that possibility too.

Still, we have to talk to her somehow. Man, meguca therapy is going to be really hard.
 
Guys. Guys. I just realized something. We're planning on doing dewitching. Homura carries around Grief Seeds from past timelines, including possibly Oktavias, Candeloros, and Ophelias. This could get complicated.
That's... hm.

Leaving aside the severe logistical and psychological problems this raises, I'm also now wondering how duplicate souls works. I kinda had the impression that souls transcended timelines.
 
That's... hm.

Leaving aside the severe logistical and psychological problems this raises, I'm also now wondering how duplicate souls works. I kinda had the impression that souls transcended timelines.

There's strong implications this may be the case, but even so, it just means two or more faces of the multidimensional jewel of the soul is visible at once, so to speak.
 
Or, perhaps, grief seeds can't be brought back.

Or maybe they're duplicated like everything else in Homura's inventory when she rewinds time.
 
If PSP game is anything to go by, she can carry back Grief Seeds.

But then again, that could just be game mechanics.
 
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