[x] Not Ugolino

Murphy can't catch us if we don't vote for the person who tempted it.
I hope you understand this makes you look significantly more like an asshole than usual. That must have been rather difficult to achieve, I would think.

Seriously don't do this shit.
 
...I'm sure "magically changing laws" are grounds for the case to be dismissed with no consequences.

No, you add more charges against the criminal for trying to break the legal system for their own benefit.
That's definitely not illegal. I challenge you to find a law against that anywhere.

I've put plenty of thought into it. It would be the most efficient route to nearly any goal a person could have.

You don't need each individual wish to accomplish much if you can use a lot of them. You can even put them in terms little girls wouldn't even need to be trained to approve of. Wishing for a few million dollars at a time to so that you can afford to treat them better. Wishing for the adoption agency to approve you adopting a couple more girls so they can have friends. Wish you are in charge of the local government so they won't take the girls away. A progressive series of individually very weak wishes can end up with massive results anyways.

Wish that the day that Congress is supposed to meet about laws against magical girl abuse the building blows up. A few pounds of explosives appearing is far less difficult than reviving a dead person for a while. It's positively mundane. If that's not even an option wish that they get flat tires or a traffic jam blocks critical people appearing to the vote. Or they miss their flights back to Washington from their states. Throwing a wrench in a government is not that hard. Or for a less magical option simply buy them off with the money you gain from wishes.
 
Y'now in one of the PMMM themes, there's Madoka floating in the eye of a giant mask?

That's literally a Mephistopheles mask from a production of Faust, and there are several passages from Goethe's version of the story (with errors) throughout the show, for example, as part of Gertrude's barrier.


Woe! woe!
Thou hast it destroyed,
The beautiful world,
With powerful fist:
In ruin 'tis hurled,
By the blow of a demigod shattered!
The scattered
Fragments into the Void we carry,
Deploring
The beauty perished beyond restoring.
 
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Y'now in one of the PMMM themes, there's Madoka floating in the eye of a giant mask?

That's literally a Mephistopheles mask from a production of Faust, and there are several passages from Goethe's version of the story (with errors) throughout the show, for example, as part of Gertrude's barrier.

so what does that- *sees avatar*...ok what did Kyouko do this time?
 
That's definitely not illegal. I challenge you to find a law against that anywhere.

I've put plenty of thought into it. It would be the most efficient route to nearly any goal a person could have.

You don't need each individual wish to accomplish much if you can use a lot of them. You can even put them in terms little girls wouldn't even need to be trained to approve of. Wishing for a few million dollars at a time to so that you can afford to treat them better. Wishing for the adoption agency to approve you adopting a couple more girls so they can have friends. Wish you are in charge of the local government so they won't take the girls away. A progressive series of individually very weak wishes can end up with massive results anyways.

Wish that the day that Congress is supposed to meet about laws against magical girl abuse the building blows up. A few pounds of explosives appearing is far less difficult than reviving a dead person for a while. It's positively mundane. If that's not even an option wish that they get flat tires or a traffic jam blocks critical people appearing to the vote. Or they miss their flights back to Washington from their states. Throwing a wrench in a government is not that hard. Or for a less magical option simply buy them off with the money you gain from wishes.
 
That's definitely not illegal. I challenge you to find a law against that anywhere.

If it's not illegal than it's totally not fucked up amirite?

I've put plenty of thought into it. It would be the most efficient route to nearly any goal a person could have.

Yes. If you're a bloody psychopath.

You don't need each individual wish to accomplish much if you can use a lot of them. You can even put them in terms little girls wouldn't even need to be trained to approve of.

*shudder*

Wishing for a few million dollars at a time to so that you can afford to treat them better. Wishing for the adoption agency to approve you adopting a couple more girls so they can have friends. Wish you are in charge of the local government so they won't take the girls away. A progressive series of individually very weak wishes can end up with massive results anyways.

*shuddering intensifies*

Good god man. What's wrong with you? Also, again, that goes a bit beyond small-scale wishes, even if we ignore the fact that you're still using peoples' lives, literally selling their souls, OTHER PEOPLES' SOULS, for personal gain.

Wish that the day that Congress is supposed to meet about laws against magical girl abuse the building blows up. A few pounds of explosives appearing is far less difficult than reviving a dead person for a while. It's positively mundane. If that's not even an option wish that they get flat tires or a traffic jam blocks critical people appearing to the vote. Or they miss their flights back to Washington from their states. Throwing a wrench in a government is not that hard. Or for a less magical option simply buy them off with the money you gain from wishes.


Okay. It's official. You are a bloody psychopath.

Get help. Seriously.
 
Well, Faust is a story where titular character makes a deal with the Devil, which takes the form a cute, furry animal, most frequently a cat.

I think you can see the resemblances to PMMM here. Hell, that passage is one of the first hints in the anime that PMMM isn't the light fluffy magical girl anime that it appears at first glance. Well, other than the fact that it is written by Urobuchi.
 
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Something that rather heavily suggests that what inverted is suggesting (raising girls for wishes) won't work: the Incubators don't kidnaps girls at birth and do that. If it were possible and practical, they'd do it without hesitation- because that way they'd get wishes that directly benefit them, plus a system for producing witches that's more steady, reliable and predictable than the current one (raise the girls whilst brainwashing them to think that contracting, killing one or two witches, then witching out is the greatest honour possible or something). That seems to indicate that potential is non-predictable and relatively random.

Of course, there's no way that Kyuubey will actually admit to this, but it does mean that he won't raise the 'destroy human society' thing as a reason for the masquerade- he doesn't lie, after all. Or if he does raise it, it'll be through inferences and not something he directly states- in other words, if we keep pushing for a 'Can this happen? Yes or no?' answer he'll eventually have to go no.
 
Also, the Incubators clearly have a set of ethics that, while still monstrous by human standards, exist, and work to make the system far less efficient than it could be. There is some morality going on here, and Incubators recognize that human beings are not, say, corn that can be farmed however they please, and they have some standards for ethical treatment of Potentials.
 
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Oh God, I'm having second thoughts about this but...

[X] Ugolino

There...

Edit: Got a Clarification. I wholeheartedly Agree to Ugolino's Vote.
 
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One last thing about your vote Ugo. I'm actually pretty sure Hitomi doesn't know the Miki's were admitted last night. You might want to ask if she knows and if not, tell her.
 
Take a damn step back. Remember that we are talking about risks of breaking the masquerade. He is not presenting this as a good idea or something he would do himself, but something we have to worry about evil people doing.
Ah. Taking a step back, you're right.

He's still making a fuckawful point, though. And also he was advocating familiar farming unironically for a nice long while. And made a lovely comment about how morals were just a human construct. This is in the SQ rolz chat. It was actually so bad that we fucking abandoned it for a week.
 
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