Dangit science, why you gotta be so complicated.Hypothesis: grief control range is actually a ellipse with foci on the body and the gem.
they solve the "we can't do shit outside our range" issue.Hypothesis: We can instantly fuck up anything within 100 meters of us and have basically unlimited shields and free range of high speed movement through the air
Lasers seem very gimmicky.
well we have to test it to find out now, don't we?I personally hypothesize that 'magic is bullshit' rules will prevent us from circumventing our range even with a laser, unless that laser has at least some parts that are physical and non-griefy, most likely the power source
... I forgot about that.Sure (I mean...no magical girl can do anything outside of their own range since that's what range is, and our range is pretty long) but why lasers? Even if they went past our range, if they can't punch a hole through an enemy from more than twice our range, they're not really helpful (since with free range of high speed movement and infinite shields, it's just as easy to move closer).
Didn't Homura give us a sawed off nagant or some weird shit? We could use that. Bullets. Those work good, Homura can attest. Or ask her for a .50 cal or something. Those work even gooder.
Our range isn't that long. note Mami with her half-klick targeting range. Or Sakura with her inter-city teleportation. or Ramiel. we're actually one of the shorter ranges, not counting the ones with rages of "personal" and "hit it with my stick".Sure (I mean...no magical girl can do anything outside of their own range since that's what range is, and our range is pretty long)
we have grief hax to power it. we can basically make the laser as powerful as we want to to the point where we cant fire it without setting the air on fire. Also, hitscan weapon, they ain't gonna be able to dodge that.but why lasers? Even if they went past our range, if they can't punch a hole through an enemy from more than twice our range, they're not really helpful (since with free range of high speed movement and infinite shields, it's just as easy to move closer).
yes she did. and they work good for her because she can literally fill the air with bullets. we... can't. hell, I have my doubts we could even hit whatever we aim at, we have no firearms experience whatsoever.Didn't Homura give us a sawed off nagant or some weird shit? We could use that. Bullets. Those work good, Homura can attest. Or ask her for a .50 cal or something. Those work even gooder.
this too. it's best to know what can and can't get out of our range.I think lasers are intended to be a proof of concept, like the book that told us about how to mix concrete.
People have been worrying that Sayaka would see Witch Runes with our power.
However, those runes are also engraved in Soul Gem Rings, and they can't decipher them so it's fine.
OMGYES!But we can decipher them. It's arguably part of our power. Really who the hell knows what Sayaka's going to get when she copies us? For all we know she's going to become the viewpoint protagonist for as many updates as it lasts.
That time Ramiel was sniping us and we just used grief to nope every shot...I'm pretty sure. I'd look for it but haha i'm fucking lazy
With the infinity x 100 ways to basically cheat with grief this thread has come up with, aiming is registered as a problem?
Also note, while 100m isn't massive compared to SOME things, our 100m isn't an effective range, it's a 100m instant death range. Like, in 100m we basically just win if we go hard.
But we can decipher them. It's arguably part of our power. Really who the hell knows what Sayaka's going to get when she copies us? For all we know she's going to become the viewpoint protagonist for as many updates as it lasts.
oh, you meant in the literal sense. "this is a shield, I can make lots of them".That time Ramiel was sniping us and we just used grief to nope every shot...I'm pretty sure. I'd look for it but haha i'm fucking lazy
maybe for most enemies. I guarantee there're plenty of enemies who can no-sell our powers though.Also note, while 100m isn't massive compared to SOME things, our 100m isn't an effective range, it's a 100m instant death range. Like, in 100m we basically just win if we go hard.
^that too.The problem is that we have no counter to someone who can instant-death us from 101m. It's essentially also our effective range.
Hypothesis: grief control range is actually a ellipse with foci on the body and the gem.
too late.
Still need to ask about them megucas with ~100m range limit...Sure (I mean...no magical girl can do anything outside of their own range since that's what range is, and our range is pretty long) but why lasers? Even if they went past our range, if they can't punch a hole through an enemy from more than twice our range, they're not really helpful (since with free range of high speed movement and infinite shields, it's just as easy to move closer).
Didn't Homura give us a sawed off nagant or some weird shit? We could use that. Bullets. Those work good, Homura can attest. Or ask her for a .50 cal or something. Those work even gooder.
We could ask Sayaka's familiars.Well, obviously we would not want to use our own familiars for this, for two reasons.
1. We don't know if we can, or if we can, if it is safe
2. Our Witch is supposed to be WTF hilariously strong, not something we would want to see the light of day, EVER..
We should find a weaker witch's familiar to try this on.