Hypothesis: We can instantly fuck up anything within 100 meters of us and have basically unlimited shields and free range of high speed movement through the air

Lasers seem very gimmicky.
 
Hypothesis: grief control range is actually a ellipse with foci on the body and the gem.
Dangit science, why you gotta be so complicated. :(
I know you were probably joking but I thought of a patch anyway!.

Methodology: Put down our soul gem. Walk 50 metres away. Then see how far we can send grief in the other each direction.

Perhaps by taking a small sphere and expanding it into gas (or, more efficiently, a band) uniformly in all directions, stopping each part when it starts to dissipate, until we feel out the entire border of our range?
 
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I personally hypothesize that 'magic is bullshit' rules will prevent us from circumventing our range even with a laser, unless that laser has at least some parts that are physical and non-griefy, most likely the power source
 
I personally hypothesize that 'magic is bullshit' rules will prevent us from circumventing our range even with a laser, unless that laser has at least some parts that are physical and non-griefy, most likely the power source
well we have to test it to find out now, don't we? :p
 
Hm, but why would it be an ellipsis? Especially since if the 'grief is an extension of our body' theory is correct, that'd be an effectively infinite range right there... and what about our physical body exactly would cause our control to be projected? Remember, our grief is controlled by magic, and I don't think there's anything in our body that would affect magic in and of itself? Especially since our Soul is outside of it?
 
they solve the "we can't do shit outside our range" issue.

Sure (I mean...no magical girl can do anything outside of their own range since that's what range is, and our range is pretty long) but why lasers? Even if they went past our range, if they can't punch a hole through an enemy from more than twice our range, they're not really helpful (since with free range of high speed movement and infinite shields, it's just as easy to move closer).

Didn't Homura give us a sawed off nagant or some weird shit? We could use that. Bullets. Those work good, Homura can attest. Or ask her for a .50 cal or something. Those work even gooder.
 
I think lasers are intended to be a proof of concept, like the book that told us about how to mix concrete.
 
Sure (I mean...no magical girl can do anything outside of their own range since that's what range is, and our range is pretty long) but why lasers? Even if they went past our range, if they can't punch a hole through an enemy from more than twice our range, they're not really helpful (since with free range of high speed movement and infinite shields, it's just as easy to move closer).

Didn't Homura give us a sawed off nagant or some weird shit? We could use that. Bullets. Those work good, Homura can attest. Or ask her for a .50 cal or something. Those work even gooder.
... I forgot about that.

It would be nice to have something nonlethal, but lasers aren't an answer to that.
 
Sure (I mean...no magical girl can do anything outside of their own range since that's what range is, and our range is pretty long)
Our range isn't that long. note Mami with her half-klick targeting range. Or Sakura with her inter-city teleportation. or Ramiel. we're actually one of the shorter ranges, not counting the ones with rages of "personal" and "hit it with my stick".

but why lasers? Even if they went past our range, if they can't punch a hole through an enemy from more than twice our range, they're not really helpful (since with free range of high speed movement and infinite shields, it's just as easy to move closer).
we have grief hax to power it. we can basically make the laser as powerful as we want to to the point where we cant fire it without setting the air on fire. Also, hitscan weapon, they ain't gonna be able to dodge that.

and where are you getting infinite shields from? I don't think we have any shields, last I checked.

Didn't Homura give us a sawed off nagant or some weird shit? We could use that. Bullets. Those work good, Homura can attest. Or ask her for a .50 cal or something. Those work even gooder.
yes she did. and they work good for her because she can literally fill the air with bullets. we... can't. hell, I have my doubts we could even hit whatever we aim at, we have no firearms experience whatsoever.
If we could make lasers though, we could fill the air with lasers.

I think lasers are intended to be a proof of concept, like the book that told us about how to mix concrete.
this too. it's best to know what can and can't get out of our range.
 
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Haha yeah, right?
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I meant the "sneezing girls" thing, not the "terrible writer" thing. :oops:
 
People have been worrying that Sayaka would see Witch Runes with our power.
However, those runes are also engraved in Soul Gem Rings, and they can't decipher them so it's fine.

But we can decipher them. It's arguably part of our power. Really who the hell knows what Sayaka's going to get when she copies us? For all we know she's going to become the viewpoint protagonist for as many updates as it lasts.
 
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and where are you getting infinite shields from?
That time Ramiel was sniping us and we just used grief to nope every shot...I'm pretty sure. I'd look for it but haha i'm fucking lazy

I have my doubts we could even hit whatever we aim at
With the infinity x 100 ways to basically cheat with grief this thread has come up with, aiming is registered as a problem?
Just do the silly grief harness thing, but on the gun, so it aims for us.

Also note, while 100m isn't massive compared to SOME things, our 100m isn't an effective range, it's a 100m instant death range. Like, in 100m we basically just win if we go hard.

not the "terrible writer" thing.

lol
jk i already know
 
That time Ramiel was sniping us and we just used grief to nope every shot...I'm pretty sure. I'd look for it but haha i'm fucking lazy
oh, you meant in the literal sense. "this is a shield, I can make lots of them".

Also note, while 100m isn't massive compared to SOME things, our 100m isn't an effective range, it's a 100m instant death range. Like, in 100m we basically just win if we go hard.
maybe for most enemies. I guarantee there're plenty of enemies who can no-sell our powers though.
The problem is that we have no counter to someone who can instant-death us from 101m. It's essentially also our effective range.
^that too.
 
Hypothesis: grief control range is actually a ellipse with foci on the body and the gem.

Well I suppose there's no point not testing it, though I don't believe the body has any effect on the range...

Also noticing there are two viewpoints on the range issue, which are:

- we need range to defend ourselves from attackers with a longer range
- we need range so that the things we make persist outside it (like Oriko's antipain ring)


And it's the first point which causes a bit of dispute. I think it's really only an issue if we piss off a teleporter with long range attacks? Otherwise we can close really quickly with flight. So... don't piss off Sakura?
 
Sure (I mean...no magical girl can do anything outside of their own range since that's what range is, and our range is pretty long) but why lasers? Even if they went past our range, if they can't punch a hole through an enemy from more than twice our range, they're not really helpful (since with free range of high speed movement and infinite shields, it's just as easy to move closer).

Didn't Homura give us a sawed off nagant or some weird shit? We could use that. Bullets. Those work good, Homura can attest. Or ask her for a .50 cal or something. Those work even gooder.
Still need to ask about them megucas with ~100m range limit...

And we didn't get just an Obrez from Momura. We've also got a rifle (AR-15).
 
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Well, obviously we would not want to use our own familiars for this, for two reasons.

1. We don't know if we can, or if we can, if it is safe
2. Our Witch is supposed to be WTF hilariously strong, not something we would want to see the light of day, EVER..

We should find a weaker witch's familiar to try this on.
We could ask Sayaka's familiars.
 
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