Lil, Kyubey is about as evil as a robot. Because thats pretty much what he is. A extremely complex, organic, souless robot with a preprogramed 'objective'. Sentient? Yes. But trying to attach any moral alignment is an exercise in futility, because he lacks any moral alignment whatsoever. At best, he is true neutral, at worst? Blue and Orange morality at its finest.



........We should have wished that the Incubators were lawful good.
 
Complete and total indestructibility, I think. As in 'will live to see the end of Time itself' indestructibility.
This would have been interesting I suppose. I mean if "live to see the end of Time" is in effect that probably means we couldn't witch out either? As the witch wouldn't really be the same person.

Probably would have had very depressing results what with watching everyone die and then eventually ending up trapped somewhere most likely. Or perhaps even just surviving until the stars all burn out.

Though if we want to go with maximum incubator paranoia, they'd probably put that person in a human sized hamster-wheel and have her run to generate free energy forever. Such complete immortality necessarily includes a lack of need for food after all.
 
Lil, Kyubey is about as evil as a robot. Because thats pretty much what he is. A extremely complex, organic, souless robot with a preprogramed 'objective'. Sentient? Yes. But trying to attach any moral alignment is an exercise in futility, because he lacks any moral alignment whatsoever. At best, he is true neutral, at worst? Blue and Orange morality at its finest.
:facepalm:
 
Probably would have had very depressing results what with watching everyone die and then eventually ending up trapped somewhere most likely. Or perhaps even just surviving until the stars all burn out.
Take a gander with me, and we'll see how deep this particular rabbit hole goes.

I mean the end of Time itself.

... not, mind you, that it would have impinged on the Quest itself. You'd just be indestructible and capable of facetanking everything.
 
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I am not immune to evidence and argument Lili. I can and have changed my stances in internet arguments. I had remembered Kyuubey being ignorant of Oriko's plans, and when he found out deriding them. Before Rebellion, that might have been a plausible interpretation. After... not so much.

Also, I recently reread Noir Quest, and that Kyubey isn't an inveterate dick, so yeah.


Edit: Yes, you may.
 
HOLY CRAP SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET ADMITTED THEY WERE WRONG. THIS MUST GO IN THE NEWSPAPERS.

Also, SCIENCE IDEA number 12, we attempt to make Kyubey FEELZ by injecting his body with Grief. Probably won't do anything, but it'dd be 'fun'. And most likely result in a bad end, but hey, SCIENCE
 
... take a like. I don't give these out very often*, and in all seriousness, congratulations for being able to admit you're wrong. I'm not being sarcastic or anything; seriously, congratulations.

*Not ever, actually.

I consider myself a mathematician, and a child of the Enlightenment. I pride myself on logical thinking. If I can't admit I'm in error, when presented with compelling evidence, I might as well grab the windex and chug.
 
Unforeseen Consequences pt. 15
Mami's reaction gives you pause, and the sheer, monumental impact of what you've done begins to sink in. You have just done the impossible, and-

Oh, god.

Oh, god.

Kyuubey.

Kyuubey is going to be very, very interested in you, isn't it. And Kyuubey-

Your hands are shaking.

Deep breaths.

Deep breaths. Calm. Inhale blue, exhale red.

Less freaking out, more calm.

"I- hey, it worked! Thanks, Mami!" you say, trying for nonchalant. Off to the side, Madoka and Sayaka are looking rather worried at the dual freakout they'd just witnessed.

Mami gives a choked laugh, palming her face. "Sabrina, you don't understand what you've done, do you? Grief seeds are the most important resource a magical girl can have, since they're the only thing that can clean our Soul Gems and restore our powers. And... you've just made them obsolete."

There's more to it, you know. But you don't ask, for now.

"I- I know, Mami," you reply, mostly lost for words. "Still, it's a good thing, right?"

"It definitely is!" Mami says, smile returning. "Anyway, Sabrina, maybe you should see if you can apply your magic offensively?" She's changing the subject, but you can accept that.

You find a smile coming to your face in response. "Certainly."

Your focus returns to the little mass of Grief floating above your left hand. It's... you know that you can reshape it as you like, and it's liquid, solid, or gas, as you like. You curl your fingers, and it warps through various simple shapes: sphere, pyramid, cube. Your other hand comes up, and the Grief reshapes itself into a little statuette of Kyuubey.

Mami chuckles. "That's quite a good rendition, Sabrina. But we still need to hunt that Witch... I'll give you a little room, ok?" She wanders off, and sits down next to the other two to watch.

You dip your head, slightly abashed, and reshape the Grief into a small, thirty centimeter long blade of Grief. You're already controlling it at a distance, so... You swipe at a conveniently placed old car with the hand manipulating the Grief.

The blade flickers out, and carves clear through the rusting steel in a spray of sparks. The cut edges glow a deep purple that's almost black. The colour rapidly fades, and you swing again, twirling on the spot as you do. This time, you bisect the car lengthwise, and you instinctively finish the twirl in a half crouch before taking a long hop into the air. As you fall, your bring the Grief down again, now reshaping it into a simple plate that you smash into the car from above.

Metal shrieks as it's crushed into the ground, completely pancaking the car. Again, the parts that had been in contact with the Grief glow a deep purple that dissipates rapidly.

Clapping reaches your ears, and you glance over at your little audience. Both Sayaka and Mami are clapping enthusiastically, and Madoka is beaming at you. "That's amazing, Sabrina!" Sayaka calls.

You chuckle, and brush your hair back again. You're not sure how to deal with the praise.

You quickly return to your testing, though, and reshape the Grief into a simple sphere again. You push it away from you, snaking it among the piles of junk, trying to see what the limits of your control are.

Twenty meters.

Forty.

Sixty.

Eighty

A hundre-

You lose control of the Grief at a hundred meters away, and you can feel it try to maintain its coherence, to consolidate, before it dissipates. It simply spreads out, like a mist the vanishes in the morning sunlight.

You scratch your head. "Ah... I've lost it," you admit to the others with a depreciative chuckle. "I guess that's my range limit, then."

But you're still not done yet, and so, you look at your own Soul Gem. There's a very thin film of corruption on it, making the white look slightly grubby. Well, that's unacceptable, and so you yank the corruption out. In your right hand, you manifest your weapon- a medieval warhammer, with a blunt end and a spiked end.

You look at the Grief hovering above your left hand, and at the warhammer on your right. You'd thought maybe you could combine the two, but the newly-there puella magi instincts are silent. You... don't think there's anything to combine there, and your warhammer is just a hammer. A peculiarly light-feeling hammer that's remarkably well balanced, you note, hefting it carefully and giving it a practice swing. But just a magically enhanced hammer.

"Ah... I think I'm done? I can cleanse gems, and use the corruption as a weapon. And I have this hammer here," you address Mami tentatively. "Unless you have any suggestions for me to try?"

"Hm..." Mami rises gracefully to her feet. "Well, maybe another time? The Witch won't wait for us forever, you know."
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[] Write-in
- [] Hunting time
- [] A few more ideas?


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Y'know, Mami's a veteran puella magi in her own right. She was perfectly willing to threaten to kill Homura in Episode One. I'm not rendering a verdict, but it's... interesting, don't you think? Threats, or deeds?
 
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[x] Write-in
- [x] Hunting time
-[x]We'll follow Mami's lead and try not to mess up.
-[x]Ask Sayaka and Madoka what they're planning to do.
-[x]We've got no idea what we're doing, and Mami knows her stuff, but...is it really safe for this many people to go Witch-hunting? Wouldn't...it see us coming or something?
--[x]We don't want to be a distraction that'd get them hurt.
--[x]Try and keep calm. Don't panic over the incoming Witch fight or the revelations.


[q]I hope s-senpai won't snap and try to kill me

Re: Mami response-veiled, passive-aggressive threats and running her out of town at the slightest further provocation, but if Homura did nothing, Mami wouldn't have just up and murdered her- if only because of delusions of righteousness.
 
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[x] Write-in
- [x] Hunting time
-[x]We'll follow Mami-senpai's lead and try not to mess up.
-[x]Ask Sayaka and Madoka what they're planning to do.
-[x]We've got no idea what we're doing, and Mami knows her stuff, but...is it really safe for this many people to go Witch-hunting? Wouldn't...it see us coming or something?
--[x]We don't want to be a distraction that'd get them hurt.
--[x]Try and keep calm. Don't panic over the incoming Witch fight or the revelations.


Minor addition, because if anything will get Mami in a better mood...
 
Grief experimentation can wait- there's at least one time-sensitive witch out there in terms of "people will get killed if we don't try and follow the stations of canon" and probably two.
 
[x] Hunting time
-[x] Maybe spectating is a bit too dangerous?
 
I assumed the senpai was would be an automatic action if it fit the write-in...and would Sabrina know to use it in this situation?

Also, we don't want to be too blunt, or it might not work. "lol I'm Mami and it's perfectly safe because I know my stuff" as her reply doesn't get our objectives done after all.
 
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[x] Write-in
- [x] Hunting time
-[x] We'll follow Mami's lead and try not to mess up.
-[x] We've got no idea what we're doing, and Mami knows her stuff, but...is it really safe for this many people to go Witch-hunting? Wouldn't... it see us coming or something?
-[x] Ask Sayaka and Madoka what they're planning to do.
--[x] Try and keep calm. Don't panic over the incoming Witch fight or the revelations.


I hope that our instinctive Witch-lore knowledge surface only when someone ask us about it. It will be bad if we blurt Witch bomb in front of Mami
 
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I want us to blurt out Charlotte's human name in a morbid and awful curiosity type of way.
 
[x] Write-in
- [x] Hunting time
-[x]We'll follow Mami-senpai's lead and try not to mess up.
-[x]Ask Sayaka and Madoka what they're planning to do.
-[x]We've got no idea what we're doing, and Mami knows her stuff, but...is it really safe for this many people to go Witch-hunting? Wouldn't...it see us coming or something?
--[x]We don't want to be a distraction that'd get them hurt.
--[x]Try and keep calm. Don't panic over the incoming Witch fight or the revelations.
 
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