Also, like...that joke at Homura's expense is abusive and gaslighting. She'd be RIGHT to tell us to fuck off because we're taking something she opened up to us in confidence and using it to belittle her and marginalize her social power in this group.

What the fuck.
 
---[x] Ask Madoka if she can keep an eye on the girls as a kind of "Mental Health Officer" to help keep their spirits up. It's not something a magical girl can safely do, because cheering people up can be draining by itself - you're sure she's felt as much, with as good at comforting people as she is. There's nobody better suited to the task - she can make Homura smile!
----[x] Homura, shush, you saw it, it's no use denying it!
 
Yeah, I have zero attachment to the joke. I was just copy-pasting and I don't want to upset Homura for so silly a reason. I am removing it without regret. It's not my kind of humour anyway and was just trusting those whose it is. Joke removed.


[x] "Actually, Madoka, there are a couple of things..."
-[x] Avoid Homura's glare.
--[x] Explain to Madoka that, as magical girls, the group (Mami, Homura, and Sayaka) need to avoid darker emotions, to avoid accumulating excess grief whenever you're not around. Sure, things probably won't get bad really quickly, but it can happen, and it's a risk we don't want to expose our friends to.
---[x] Ask Madoka if she can keep an eye on the girls as a kind of "Mental Health Officer" to help keep their spirits up. It's not something a magical girl can safely do, because cheering people up can be draining by itself - you're sure she's felt as much, with as good at comforting people as she is.
-[x] "Second, would your mom know how we could buy some property? I don't think any of us would even know where to start with that, but she might, and if we're going to be getting immigrants it would be a lot easier if they could stay in one place where they can all be cleansed in one go."
--[x] "You know your mom best, Madoka, how do you think she'd take the whole magical girl thing?"

He probably wouldn't, since he can separate souls from the brain and materialize the former as a supernatural construct. :p
I see nothing supernatural about the soul in either the setting or reality and I'm not even atheist or agnostic. He's well aware that the soul can be removed from the brain though.


Change 'humans' to 'emotional lifeforms' then. By his testimony, worlds like Earth are statistical anomalies.

Yes, but being statistical anomalies isn't relevant. Iron's rarity compared to Hydrogen doesn't make it a crime against the natural order.

...Um...yes. Which is exactly why Wraiths are probably a phenomenon that don't require divine intervention. This was my point.

Madokami can alter things retroactively. Their age isn't evidence against her work.




[X] Gadjo
My vote was never intended to be a finalized product, simply something to get the idea out there. My vote-writing ability simply isn't good enough for PMAS.

Don't say that. Throwing out ideas is useful to the process.

I don't think we're going to be getting literal waves of girls,


I do.

and if we do, honestly don't want a large number in the same building. Think about it. Magical girls are unstable and they can usually destroy cars with trivial effort. Last thing we need is a whole building full of people having magical asswhuppings every night.

Edit: well, there won't be a building for long in that case.

We've got worse problems from spreading them out. ie. they're harder to look after and police.

Dude, you're talking to people from around the world right now. It's called the internet. She could totally just have a japanese meguca friend who told her.

If two of us were magical, neither would know about the other, because magic's a secret. And again, as the other's said, the coincidence if that's the case is astounding. The only way this makes sense is if large numbers of European meguca know about us. Which means it's likely we are famous worldwide. And it's likely that people worldwide want to meet us.

They're also human-sized construction vehicles. Get them involved in fixing what's broke.

And the odds of this girl who has a very specific power that we were just asking about being the only one to hear about us from a friend are?

This.
 
Personally I don't think that jokes that big a deal. It's just a bit of friendly teasing and I think we're at the point where we're close enough to Homura that she won't mind. But whatever, better safe then sorry I guess.
 
Also another reason I want this is because, well, we could really do with the help of adults in the know. They can do things we can't and so are quite helpful. It's time we acquired some.
 
Okay, seriously, when did a cute aside comment turn into 'abusive gaslighting'?

... And why are people voting for Sereg when they jumped on board my plan?

I am baffled and irritated.
 
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Okay, seriously, when did a cute aside comment turn into 'abusive gaslighting'?

... And why are people voting for Sereg when they jumped on board my plan?

I am baffled and irritated.
Abusive is overstating it and as far as I can tell gaslighting is just wrong, but it does seem a bit mean.

[X] Sereg
 
*shrug* As I said, it's not my type of humour, but I do think calling it "abusive gaslighting" is a bit much. Now, I personally only realised that I'd been emotionally abused when I was removed from that situation (which I understand is typical), so it's possible I'd only recognise it as such later on, but I do dislike calling things "abuse" when they aren't as I feel that it detracts from the issues with real abuse, but as I said, maybe I'd only see it as such later on and Homura is fragile and I don't want to annoy her for no gain.

EDIT:

... And why are people voting for Sereg when they jumped on board my plan?

Not sure. Sorry about that (also, I'm male, in case you want to use the correct pronoun). Maybe because I corrected a missing comma? Anyway, there's a difference now.
 
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/me shrugs

Well I can cut it if people would prefer. Maybe expand a bit on justifying accepting immigrants to Homura; Gadjo does have a fair point there, but I want to stay focused on offering multiple options to the 'Dokes right now.
 
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Gadjo does indeed have some decent points there and I's be in support of grabbing some of them. I need to sleep soon though and do not trust my votecrafting ability at this time.
 
Made some edits to help with convincing Homura. I don't intend to get into a big discussion with her at the moment, I want to stay focused on suggesting things for Madoka to do, but there's enough there to expand on, I think.
 
Maybe we can get a place outside Mitakihara and arrange for weekly meetings there? Accept the influx of megucas, but redirect it somewhere close, but not Mitakihara?
 
Maybe we can get a place outside Mitakihara and arrange for weekly meetings there? Accept the influx of megucas, but redirect it somewhere close, but not Mitakihara?
Weekly meetings requires significant startup capital in the form of grief seeds that increases in proportion to the refugee population, and also requires more trust on the part of the refugees that we will in fact attend to them once a week. Daily cleansing scales up more easily and is easier to sell.
 
Weekly meetings requires significant startup capital in the form of grief seeds that increases in proportion to the refugee population, and also requires more trust on the part of the refugees that we will in fact attend to them once a week. Daily cleansing scales up more easily and is easier to sell.
True. Tradeoffs either way, but right now my vote is throwing out suggestions for people to discuss, so maybe we can get some IC perspectives on this.
White Ribbon Corporations
Ship name accepted.
 
How about we just read Kyubey a copy of The Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals, explain that his kind has been violating the categorical imperative and watch Kyubey and his system vanish in a puff of Kantian brilliance?
 
How about we just read Kyubey a copy of The Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals, explain that his kind has been violating the categorical imperative and watch Kyubey and his system vanish in a puff of Kantian brilliance?
Firnazagen won't let us win that easily, but it would be funny if it did happen.
 
If two of us were magical, neither would know about the other, because magic's a secret. And again, as the other's said, the coincidence if that's the case is astounding. The only way this makes sense is if large numbers of European meguca know about us. Which means it's likely we are famous worldwide. And it's likely that people worldwide want to meet us.
I mean, we will likely get some visitors, yes. I just don't think we'll be getting waves of people. Just from a meta perspective writing that many meguca sounds like a pain.
Okay, seriously, when did a cute aside comment turn into 'abusive gaslighting'?

... And why are people voting for Sereg when they jumped on board my plan?

I am baffled and irritated.
It's not abusive gaslighting, but it's antagonistic towards Homura. Know your audience for jokes and all that.
 
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