Added the anti magic suggestion. Worth a shot.

@Firnagzen

[x] Kirika, do you think you can apply your anti-magic in a way that isn't a pulse? Something that will last longer? Maybe you could feed your power into something and we could use that?
[x] If that doesn't work...

-[x] "Sorry..."
[x] Ask Oriko if she can think of any other magical girl that could potentially help.
[x] Whichever choice Oriko makes, ask if she's sure. Abide by her decision. Bring her back to her room.
[x] If you disconnected Oriko:
-[x] Hug Kirika.
--[x] "I'm not giving up. We will fix this. I'll be back soon okay?"
[x] If Oriko chooses to endure:
-[x] "I'm not giving up. We will fix thix. I'll be back soon."

[x] Cleanse everyone before you go.
[x] Leave. Head to lunch.
 
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Here's my take on the subject. Please excuse the length.

I think time-stop may be beyond our reach.

What I think we could do is make something that speeds us up enough that everything seems to be in slow motion. There are numerous examples of such powers and devices if fiction (to name a few: Kiritsugu from Fate/Zero, Hannah Given and the time-suits the feds use from The Flight of the Silvers, and Velocity from Worm).

Is this something that immediately fixes any of our problems? No. But it's a tool that can help with any number of situations. Even if we only use it for travel, not experimenting or anything else, it's still a huge boost. I don't recall how fast our Grief-mobile was on our way to the Sendai group, but I think it's safe to assume it was at least similar to that of a speeding car. If we low ball it to around 50 mph, just a x10 boost (nowhere near what Homura's time-stop would work on, assuming it runs on the principle of speeding her personal time up enough that it appears nothing else is moving) would put us near the speed of a standard passenger plane.

This is not just random science. This is a device that, if it works, will have very tangible benefits. Yes, it's essentially emulating Homura's time-stop, but it gives us the convenience of not having to rely on her when we want to get something done really quickly (or it's something she just won't do, like if it has to do with Oriko).

For people worrying about side effects, keep in mind that our Grief haxxx tend to work on intent, not our understanding and perfect construction of what we're making. The worst case scenario is, in my opinion, that we get one of the headaches that occurs after a failed device (or Feathers shows up, but so far that has only happened with the barrier and Oriko).

If we wanted to experiment with something like this, this is the sort of thing I would put in the vote:

[ ] Make a suit that speeds up the way you experience time.
or
[ ] Make a device that speeds up the flow of time in a small radius (a few meters) around it.

It's not something we need to do right now, but it's something we should get around to trying soon anyway. Heck, we could do it before going to bed tonight as long as we warn Mami about the Witch-y feeling.
 
Maybe twice and no more? It's just that if it succeeds, it pays for itself and everything else we can do many times over, so it's worth a little effort...
I guess? My point is that we have no specific need for such a power, so spending any real time on it is time that should be spent talking to people or researching more subdued forms of advancement.
 
This is not just random science. This is a device that, if it works, will have very tangible benefits. Yes, it's essentially emulating Homura's time-stop, but it gives us the convenience of not having to rely on her when we want to get something done really quickly (or it's something she just won't do, like if it has to do with Oriko).

For people worrying about side effects, keep in mind that our Grief haxxx tend to work on intent, not our understanding and perfect construction of what we're making. The worst case scenario is, in my opinion, that we get one of the headaches that occurs after a failed device (or Feathers shows up, but so far that has only happened with the barrier and Oriko).
Ehhhhhhhh we have Homura's time-stop though and it's mostly good enough for what we need. Also our worst case for grief hax is more feathers.

So far as using our own timestop, I foresee many weird consequences to that power. I'm just not sold on it being at all safe enough to use consistently. Besides we have so many social things to do science can wait.
 
What I think we could do is make something that speeds us up enough that everything seems to be in slow motion. There are numerous examples of such powers and devices if fiction (to name a few: Kiritsugu from Fate/Zero, Hannah Given and the time-suits the feds use from The Flight of the Silvers, and Velocity from Worm).
... Kirika from Puella Magi Oriko Magica.

If we wanted to experiment with something like this, this is the sort of thing I would put in the vote:

[ ] Make a suit that speeds up the way you experience time.
or
[ ] Make a device that speeds up the flow of time in a small radius (a few meters) around it.

It's not something we need to do right now, but it's something we should get around to trying soon anyway. Heck, we could do it before going to bed tonight as long as we warn Mami about the Witch-y feeling.
We obviously would...

[] Make a time/space manipulating buckler.

... Shape this artifact after our mom's.

:p
 
Ehhhhhhhh we have Homura's time-stop though and it's mostly good enough for what we need. Also our worst case for grief hax is more feathers.

So far as using our own timestop, I foresee many weird consequences to that power. I'm just not sold on it being at all safe enough to use consistently. Besides we have so many social things to do science can wait.
I guess? My point is that we have no specific need for such a power, so spending any real time on it is time that should be spent talking to people or researching more subdued forms of advancement.
My point is just that, you know, if we pull it off then science doesn't have to wait. It'd be nice, that's all.

And I just want to do this next science session, not right now. It can wait a while.
 
Besides we have so many social things to do science can wait.
I worry that you didn't read the part at the end.
It's not something we need to do right now, but it's something we should get around to trying soon anyway. Heck, we could do it before going to bed tonight as long as we warn Mami about the Witch-y feeling.
This is something that would take around 30 minutes. There are times we can do this when it won't get in the way of social. Our days are not completely jam-packed with things to do, and if we can't fit it in in our schedule we can just wake up early or go to sleep late. It's really not that huge of an investment.

As for the worries about consequences, well, being a Magical Girl bypasses most of the physical ones on account of our body being dead. Air bubbles in the blood from moving through the boundary of the time field? Not a problem. Broken bones from hitting something at x10 normal speed? Healing magic and feel-no-pain.
... Kirika from Puella Magi Oriko Magica.
IIRC, she actually slowed other people down , she didn't speed up.
 
My point is just that, you know, if we pull it off then science doesn't have to wait. It'd be nice, that's all.

And I just want to do this next science session, not right now. It can wait a while.
I mean, if I'm being frank, nothing sounds more interminably boring than several updates of time slowed science. Doesn't sound nice to me. Sounds like grinding. And that's boring.
This is something that would take around 30 minutes. There are times we can do this when it won't get in the way of social. Our days are not completely jam-packed with things to do, and if we can't fit it in in our schedule we can just wake up early or go to sleep late. It's really not that huge of an investment.

As for the worries about consequences, well, being a Magical Girl bypasses most of the physical ones on account of our body being dead. Air bubbles in the blood from moving through the boundary of the time field? Not a problem. Broken bones from hitting something at x10 normal speed? Healing magic and feel-no-pain.
The physical bit is fair, but you notice how really powerful shit takes a while? Do you really want to do another grief construct in front of Mami and zone out, leaving her crying and yelling at us until we snap out of it?

Though, if I'm being frank I don't want to try it because it sounds like it's not going to work, and is therefore a waste of an update.
 
Would the 'feel-no-pain' Ring work against Soul-poking-Witches/Familiars?

With that and attaching an Empty Seed to our Soul Gem for safety, might be something to remember when we get around to examining Aurora.

... As a last resort sort of thing; the Grief spikes seem to get worse every time, thought I'm saying this when we've only tried this stuff twice.
 
I mean, if I'm being frank, nothing sounds more interminably boring than several updates of time slowed science. Doesn't sound nice to me. Sounds like grinding. And that's boring.

Huh. I usually have fun on the science updates, so that's really a matter of taste. On the contrary I found quite a few of the social votes as of late to be painfully frustrating and not very enjoyable in any regard. Science is a nice breather to that.
 
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Huh. I usually have fun on the science updates, so that's really a matter of taste. On the contrary I found quite a few of the social votes as of late to be painfully frustrating and not very enjoyable in any regard. Science is a nice breather to that.
To be fair, both can be quite tedious; it's more about those points where we hit a wall we can't smash through.

Back when we first made the Barrier, we mostly were thinking it would be cool, but not actually all that useful compared to what we were tinkering with before, that being Grief Seed stuff... But after a few updates with no progress, we were very much in the mood to screw progress and do something cool, instead.
 
anyone else think that we may be onto something with our barrier? and the feather was place in it to try to keep us from doing anything with it?
 
anyone else think that we may be onto something with our barrier? and the feather was place in it to try to keep us from doing anything with it?
Quite possible.
Feathers is likely to do something dickish to disrupt us if we try learning something that will make it much easier to deal with them.

Possibly(q) the 'deleted' people Oriko noticed were going to tell us something that allowed something to 'click' for Sabrina.
 
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Quite possible.
Feathers is likely to do something dickish to disrupt us if we try learning something that will make it much easier to deal with them.

Possibly(q) the 'deleted' people Oriko noticed were going to tell us something that allowed something to 'click' for Sabrina.
Or Feathers was just marvelling at our Barrier creation, having sneaked in while we were distracted, then panicked when it saw we woke up and were immediately undoing the Barrier, so it flied away as quickly as it could, but couldn't help but lose a feather in its haste.
 
Huh. I usually have fun on the science updates, so that's really a matter of taste. On the contrary I found quite a few of the social votes as of late to be painfully frustrating and not very enjoyable in any regard. Science is a nice breather to that.
I mean, I like finding new powers and stuff, but the weird little experiment updates bore me, since we typically get nothing out of them.
anyone else think that we may be onto something with our barrier? and the feather was place in it to try to keep us from doing anything with it?
Ehhh I think it was more of a warning that serious witch grief is not a toy.
 
Honestly, I think the feather was there to discourage barrier use. Possibly because we we're getting too distracted on the barrier and not focusing on things that we should've prioritized more at the time. Part to stir up shadowruns. Part to validate Oriko's worries, to ourselves, to Homu and everyone else. And so on. I can't say for sure that's it, but it wouldn't surprise me, if this was feathers own brand of 'help'.
 
By the way, if Sabrina could design her own familiars, what should they be like?
 
Mami was worried.

A flood of students walked past her, chatting, some animatedly, some tiredly, but moving along.

Mami stood. She looked around amongst the mass of teenagers, she looked up at the sky, she looked down, frowning, but couldn't seem to find what she was looking for.

She bit her lip, while at the same time her eyes unfocused, giving her eyes a faraway look.

"S-Sabrina? Where... A-are you, there, Sabrina? H.. hello?" she thought.

Mami's hands shook, and she nervously pressed them together, before half flinching, straightening up before she could draw too many odd looks from her fellow students.

"Sabrina? I-I'm waiting for you."

No answer.

Mami took a shuddering breath, lip trembling. Her hands held each other once more, every part of her exuded worry...

[HELP]

Mami jumped.

She frantically looked around, mouth open, before she stopped herself, frowning harder.

"Hello?" she thought.

A few seconds passed... Mami's eyes closed shut, and she sagged in place. "Must be my imagination," she thought, "I'm hallu-"

[OJOU HELP]

Mami's breath hitched. "Who are you?" she sent out frantically, "do you know where S-Sabrina is...?"

[SABRINA]

The answer was quick then.

[COME HERE HELP]

Immediately, Mami's head turned to a side, her eyes as if focused on a far away place.

She looked around. There was nobody else around, everybody having finished leaving while she was having her mental conversation. The blonde girl nodded to herself; a bright light enveloped her for a moment, fading and leaving her attired in a white blouse and brown skirt, with a matching beret sitting atop her head.

Without hesitation, Mami jumped high and away.

-

A graceful landing, impeccable but for a hint of haste in her steps, Mami found herself before a closed, big door, barring entrance to a warehouse.

Her hands held a musket, for she could feel a worryingly familiar sensation assaulting her magical senses, a dangerous aura emanating from the delapidated building...

She had a moment to half remember Sabrina mentioning this place before the door suddenly slid open, revealing...

Sabrina?

No.

Witch?

Mami blinked.

A familiar. But why does it look so... familiar?

Standing in fron of her, head tilted up to look at her eyes, was a porcelain doll. Big, bright blue eyes stared unblinking; white hair decorated its head, and a blue coat covered it down from the shoulders.

A second flew by, then the doll literally jumped into motion.

[OJOU]

Mami stood paralyzed with indecision as the little one grabbed onto her arm.

[HELP SABRINA]

Mami let herself be dragged into the warehouse.

Inside there was... stuff.

Mami couldn't describe the interior any better than that. Stuff.

Witch stuff.

It was almost like being in a Barrier, surrounding by a Witch's domain, but not entirely, as the floor and walls were clearly mundane.

And the one who could do this...

Mami's eyes snapped to lock onto a single figure.

Sabrina.

Sitting on the floor, in the middle of the warehouse, surrounded by so much clutter, a girl attired the same as the creepy doll.

"Sabrina!" Mami called as she ran towards her missing friend.

Clack. Ignored, the doll fell to the floor on its face, as it couldn't hold onto the quickly moving girl.

Mami came to a stop a feet before reaching the white haired girl, hand outstretched, almost but not quite touching her shoulder.

Sabrina ignored this. Sitting cross legged on the floor, arms also crossed and a serious frown on her face, which looked down at her navel.

"Sa... Sabri... na?" Mami's voice trembled.

Sabrina hummed.

Mami held her breath.

Sabrina hummed again, frowing harder for a moment. After a second, she went back to her previous frown, remaining silent and oblivious to the World around her, and her friend at her side.

Mami's hand shook, dropping to her side.

Something grabbed at that hand.

Mami quickly turned to see the doll. This one pulled at her with one hand, the other one pointing at the stuff filling the place.

Mami took a look around. She looked back down at her white haired friend, opened her mouth, closed it, then nodded to herself and, with one last look back, turned around to check on all the... stuff. Witchy stuff.

The first thing that caught her eye was a statue. It looked much like a muscular, masked, bright yellow human.

It was also striking quite a... pose.

Mami tilted her head, trying to divine significance from this object, before noticing something small at the statue's feet.

Crouching down, she found more statues. But these ones didn't represent the yellow man. These looked like Sabrina... also posing.

Mami grabbed one of the little figurines, marvelling at the detail, at the still hair that looked almost real, at the little fingers spread out, partially covering the little bright blue eyes, which seemed to stare at her with that fervor...

Mami shook her head, putting the figurine back down. She stole a glance back at the real version of her friend, still sitting lost in her own little world, before quickly turning back to the little statues.

She noticed a piece of paper. Picking it up, she read:

The World.
Stand necessary?
Optimal pose?
Would screaming 'useless' increment time powers?


Mami frowned. Time powers?

Her eyes snapped wide open, her head raising, taking a good look around.

A diagram. Stepping closer, she could quickly make out more notes strewn around. Accel.

A pocket watch. Self explanatory.

A familiar looking set of long, curved claws. Notes reading: Wrong sort, but cool. Retractable? Might hurt.

A... Mami carefully turned around, looking for something...

There.

Stepping around almost random objects and pieces of paper strewn all over the floor, Mami made her way to the piece that caught her eye, lifting it off the floor and up to her face.

A buckler. A familiar buckler, decorated with long curves...

A note stuck on the back:

Fashioned after ---

The last word was scratched out thoroughly.

Might need to look into space stuff, too, to validate using this shape.

"... Time?" Asked Mami out loud.

"Time!"

Mami jumped, hands twitching, dropping the shield.

"Sabrina!" Ignoring the noise of the piece falling, she ran towards her friend.

"Mami!" Sabrina looked up, blinking repeatedly, as if she couldn't fathom what the blonde girl was doing there. But only for a moment. Sabrina's frown returned full force, "time!" she yelled. "There's so many..." she waved her hands around, standing up, "so many... shapes," she mused, folding her hands behind her back, and starting to pace.

Mami stopped once more short of reaching her friend, discouraged by her seemingly non existant attention span regarding her.

Mami watched Sabrina pace back and forth around the stuff, time stuff, muttering to herself.

"... the perfect form... can't use hers... not too flashy?..." Mami could catch some of Sabrina's mutterings.

"Ah..." She hesitatingly called out. Sabrina's eyes snapped up to meet hers. Taking this as encouragement, Mami continued, "are y-you making... a time device, Sa... Sabrina?" she asked.

Sabrina nodded her head fervently. "Yes!" She raised her arms, hands closed in fists as she exclaimed in frustration, "but I can't find the best way to shape it!" She huffed, resuming her pacing, faster this time, even more irritated, "is a watch too mainstream? What about a magic stone? Or a police box? Does that make sense?"

"Ah..." Mami once more interruped her friend's angry muttering. "Have y-you..." she stopped as Sabrina once more looked up at her. Gulping, she continued, "can yo-you... stop time, S-Sabrina?" she asked, hesitation and eagerness and a hint of worry mixing in her voice.

Sabrina stilled absolutely.

She didn't blink. She didn't breath. She didn't move. Not even a hair.

"Sab...?" Mami's voice trembled. "Sabri-?"

Slap!

"Wha...?" Mami stared at her friend, who was suddenly covering her eyes behind her hand.

Sabrina said something too low to hear.

"W... what?" Asked Mami.

Sabrina sighed, head dropping, her whole body sagging in defeat.

Sabrina's voice was a whisper, "... I haven't tried," she bit out.

Mami blinked.

Slowly, she looked down, then around at the many, many pieces of stuff strewn around the room.

There must be hundreds of models. She must've spent the whole day making these.

Then she looked back at her friend, who's face she could partly made out, bright red.

The next words scaped her lips without a thought.

"Oh, Sabrina..."
 
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