Lovely.


Patience SV. Ono's lashing out. Kids do that. As much as it would be satisfying to rip into her. Don't be malicious. Just the facts.
 
A thought: With Ono being as fragile as she seems, we might have to accept this will go wrong. We're avoiding the worst immediate wrong of Scrhönödinger resolving in the wrong side of the meguca equation, but we're definitely burning some of what little goodwill we have with her.

She might become a problem down the line.

Consider a scenario where we realize Ono's within minutes of witching out, make a run to save her, and arrive just as her gem cracks.

Consider that Mami may be with us when that happens.

It's not guaranteed to happen, it's a pretty long stretch to imagine that everything would go that catastrophically wrong, but it is a possibility.
 
I'm guessing the explaination would have been pointless.
A thought: With Ono being as fragile as she seems, we might have to accept this will go wrong. We're avoiding the worst immediate wrong of Scrhönödinger resolving in the wrong side of the meguca equation, but we're definitely burning some of what little goodwill we have with her.

She might become a problem down the line.

Kind of why I wanted to try and ask Oriko at the risk of annoying Homura. We don't know anything about Megane, and this probably will end up really pissing her off. Which will make helping her a little difficult.
 
Consider a scenario where we realize Ono's within minutes of witching out, make a run to save her, and arrive just as her gem cracks.

Consider that Mami may be with us when that happens.

It's not guaranteed to happen, it's a pretty long stretch to imagine that everything would go that catastrophically wrong, but it is a possibility.
Yeah, I don't think we can account for for the 0,1%, catastrophic consequences or not.

I do think Ono's gonna get worse before she gets better. That's what we need to prepare for.
Lovely.


Patience SV. Ono's lashing out. Kids do that. As much as it would be satisfying to rip into her. Don't be malicious. Just the facts.
Like this, patience; we need to give her the chances she needs. When she realizes she needs to change or self destruct, we need to push her for that change.
 
I'm surprised that we didn't mention having to save one of our friends from being killed. I thought that was in the vote.
 
I'm sure Oriko would contact us unprompted if something as disastrous as Mami witnessing Ono witch-out would happen.

We ain't got to worry about that possibility unless I'm misremembering how Oriko's precog works.
 
I'm surprised that we didn't mention having to save one of our friends from being killed. I thought that was in the vote.
Interrupted, I'd say.
"Yeah, I agree," you mutter. Steeling yourself, you speak telepathiclly to Megane again. "Miss Ono, I am truly sorry that I couldn't meet you after school like I said I would, and you have my deepest apologies for that. I hadn't meant to just blow you off like that."

"So noted," the girl replies, and falls silent again.

"... for goodness' sake," you mutter under your breath,
Can't elaborate when she doesn't give a care.
 
I'm sure Oriko would contact us unprompted if something as disastrous as Mami witnessing Ono witch-out would happen.

We ain't got to worry about that possibility unless I'm misremembering how Oriko's precog works.

By that logic, if Megane really was in serious trouble, Oriko would have already told us by now. Maybe. It's kind of hard to know.
 
Yeah, I don't think we can account for for the 0,1%, catastrophic consequences or not.

We should probably have something in the way of damage control. It's unwise to just ignore this possibility when the entire thread seems to think Mami's one of the single most important people in Sabrina's life.

Alternatively, I've misjudged the thread, in which case *shrug*.
 
She gives you a slight frown, raven black hair streaming in the wind behind her.

So ask Homura what's on her mind
:o She suspects! (As in what we were thinking about Madoka and Kirika).

My personal crack theory is that the reason Ono's such a jerk is that she's already a witch, but her wish is preventing her from acting as undignified as most other witches and shanking us in the brain with unhappy thoughts so she's just really grumpy right now.
 
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Consider a scenario where we realize Ono's within minutes of witching out, make a run to save her, and arrive just as her gem cracks.
We can start cleansing her the moment she's within 100m - even without establishing line of sight, if necessary - should we detect 'oh shit' concentrations of grief. The only scenario where she's beyond saving is one where she's also dead before we're on-scene.
 
I'm just saying it's a really, really significantly bad scenario that ought to be considered. If there's a plan for if it somehow occurs, then whatever, but it's bad enough to probably warrant some small degree of paranoia.
 
We should probably have something in the way of damage control. It's unwise to just ignore this possibility when the entire thread seems to think Mami's one of the single most important people in Sabrina's life.

Alternatively, I've misjudged the thread, in which case *shrug*.
The possibility described sounds actually less likely than 0,1%. In order for Mami to be witchbombed this way, we'd have to arrive at the exact right moment of Ono's witching out, before we can sense and degrief her.

I think that terrible moment would last a few seconds at most.

... And thinking further, disregarding Ono's health and prioritizing only Mami's, time stop doesn't help. What matters, in order to not witch bomb Mami, is that we don't reach Ono at the exact time of her witching; we can arrive before then or afterwards, and Mami will stay un-witch-bombed.

If Ono is witching out, her Soul Gem breaking right now, then time-stopping would be a mistake, since it would only allows us to witness the dreaded event.

Oriko is on witch out duty, so to speak:
"No, I mean... how finely can you predict things?" you ask. "Could you try to see girls Witching out before it happens?"

"No," Oriko shakes her head, before stopping. "Yes. Maybe." She frowns, eyes unfocusing. When you open your mouth to comment again, she holds up her hand to quiet you. "I follow... threads, of visions. The starting points of those threads are... somewhat random, but it's... easier to follow some than others."

You grimace. "Unhelpful," you say.

The seer shakes her head. "Can you describe how your Grief manipulation works?"

"Sure I can, I reach out with- Hm." You frown, trying to find the words for it. Your powers are... instinctive, like another set of limbs and senses. "OK, point taken. So can you, or can you not?"

"Maybe," she repeats. "Some people are more... visible than others." She gives you a very pointed look.

You sigh. "Fine. I want to know, if you see anything."

Oriko nods.
 
I don't think Ono is witching out right this moment. So the most important thing to do right now is to time-stop to make sure she doesn't witch out until we get there.

[] Request Homura timestop
[] Find Ono. Determine state of her soul gem.
[] Figure out what to do from there.

If her soul gem is say, three quarters full, she could well believe that she can last till the next day, even if that's rather dangerous. She certainly won't thank us for interfering right then. Ideally, her soul gem would be 90% full, and we can save her right before she witches out.
 
[X] Ask Homura for timestop.
[X] Find Ono
-[X] Cleanse her
-[X] Find out if she has a glass jaw
-[X] Tell her that grief equals madness then death.
 
You could use Homura's timestop to get there a little faster-
You glance back at Homura, who's sitting on the carpet. She gives you a slight frown, raven black hair streaming in the wind behind her.
No... no. No, no, no. That won't do.

Unless somebody's got a convincing argument for why Ono would be witching out right now, I believe the chances of that are astronomically low. I'd much rather not bother Homura with this... matter.

[X] To Homura: "Thoughts?"
-[X] If either her or Mami propose an idea to implement, such as calling ahead, consulting with Oriko or Homura offering time stop, implement that unless the other one disagrees. Otherwise, just get to Ono.
[X] As soon as you find Ono, try to divine if she is in the midst of an awkward situation of some sort. If not, announce your presence and request a short meeting. Then,
-[X] If she accepts, cordially ask about her health, cleanse her Gem and Seed, and ask when would be the best time to meet for that orientation.
-[X] If she doesn't, cordially ask about her health, cleanse her Gem and Seed, and ask when would be the best time to meet for that orientation. It's a good thing you can cleanse at range.

I'm sure somebody else will make a better vote than me. I'm not good with... Onos.
 
Well. We completely failed that social interaction. Although, given that we stood her up earlier, Ono's hostility was probably inevitable. And now Ono made it absolutely clear that she wants nothing to do with us today, and we're still planning on showing up despite that (and probably breaking into her house in the process), so she's going to be absolutely livid when we arrive. And cleansing her from within time-stop wouldn't help much because (as our previous interaction with Ono showed), she would still be aware that it had happened. It's still possible that we could check up on her during timestop and back off if it turns out that she doesn't actually need help, but that seems unlikely at this point.

By that logic, if Megane really was in serious trouble, Oriko would have already told us by now. Maybe. It's kind of hard to know.
Oriko can see a lot, but she can't see everything. And she specifically said that witchouts are something that she can have trouble with (depending on the circumstances). And Oriko has yet to even met Ono Megane in person. So I would say that it's unlikely that Oriko would have seen anything about Oriko's witchout (even if it did happen), so her silence on the subject doesn't really tell us much.

The possibility described sounds actually less likely than 0,1%. In order for Mami to be witchbombed this way, we'd have to arrive at the exact right moment of Ono's witching out, before we can sense and degrief her.
Another possible witchbomb scenario involving Ono would be if Ono already knows about the witchbomb (e.g. because she saw the witchout that created Belle, the Post Office witch). Ono didn't spill the beans when we talked to her yesterday, but she wasn't pissed at us then. And even if Ono is clueless about the witchbomb, talking with her right now seems like a bad idea. Kai Merah's proto-vote seems reasonable.
 
Wait, what? Glass jaw line?

...

Ono's literally postponing her 'orientation' non-madness/death check because she's angry, because she feels insulted. How can anybody think punching her would help?
 
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