"I don't know." Her eyes widen as the words pass her lips, almost surprised, and she flinches backwards.

This girl is used to "replaying" the same month and a half with the same people and same challenges over, and over, AND OVER again. The predictablity has become has life at this point, the only thing that really changed was her.
Yea, there are exceptions, where things were much different beyond just Homura's influence (including, notably, that timeline when Oriko killed Madoka), but by and large, she is "living" by knowing what people will do and what will happen by seeing it all before.

Now things are really different this time in absolutely crazy ways (in no small part due to this "crazy girl"), unprecedented ways, and it is terrifying her.
Her foundation for what is now her "life", knowing what's going on, is gone here. It's fear of the unknown taken to the next level.


I know hugs won't fix everything, but Homura really does need one. :(
If not now, then at some point.
 
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[X] Hug your mom and be freaked out together.

A better version of the vote will pop up sooner or later but forcing Mami in a situation where she's the most emotionally stable might force her to act like the veteran she is, shore up her confidence, and help her become unreliant on Sabrina. Of course, this can also backfire but I'm sticking with it until I see a better vote.
 
Not a definitive vote by far, I think, but better than freaking out now.

[X] Comforting smile "I guess we're all in the same boat, then."
[X] Sigh "You know what I think? I think somebody's messing with us. Something bigger than Walpurgisnacht, even. But it doesn't matter, because we're gonna beat them, just like we're gonna beat Walpurgisnacht, and anybody who threatens our friends. Together."
[X] Keep hugging Mami. Offer your other arm to Homura. We could use a group hug.
-[X] If things go right, ask Homura whether she'd like to come over for dinner.
 
Okay, maybe hug time is a go.

What else?

Also, I'm more afraid by the fact Homura starts acknowledging Sabrina as the cause of this one hell of a timeline.
 
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Ono's probably asleep then. Unless she's out hunting/cramming for school, I don't see her staying up late for Sabrina.

Still, it wouldn't hurt to check after we're done talking with Homura and Mami.

That's 6~8 PM. I have a hard time thinking of that as "late".

I mean, yeah, wait until this interaction is done before calling her up, but at least let her know you're running late due to some emergencies popping up once this part's wrapped up.
 
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Ono already knows we weren't sure if we could meet today. She's not hanging around waiting for us, so we aren't obliged to update her or anything. We could still contract her and arrange to meet.


Ooooooor possibly ask her this evening if before school might work, since given how narrative works first thing in the morning is the least likely time to encounter a crisis.
 
That's 6~8 PM. I have a hard time thinking of that as "late".

I mean, yeah, wait until this interaction is done before calling her up, but at least let her know you're running late due to some emergencies popping up once this part's wrapped up.
Eh really?

Seems like my math skillz are impaired when I'm sleepy. Thanks for clarifying that. So, how do you propose we contact Ono? I'm thinking a quick text after we're done talking. Though, telepathy does elicit a quicker response and lets us guess how she's doing.
 
We've bugged Ono enough times today.

And I'm sure she's smart enough to ask for help if she needs an emergency cleansing. She also didn't appear as the headstrong type to take on a witch way above her weight class on her own.

Let's focus on present company. Maybe remind Homura about our planned shopping trip? Might present some semblance of routine for her, plus we're making efforts in completing her objective (end Whattaburgernight)
 
I just... can't understand why anyone thinks the Feathers thing makes any sense. It's just not rational. Unbeknownst to us, our newly-discovered Barriers provide Feathers unheard-of influence on the world outside. So she... immediately uses that world-shaking power to prank one of our less-important friends, no lasting harm done, and leaves a feather behind just to make sure we know it's her. And then, predictably, we never use our Barriers again, the magic she supposedly needs us to keep using in order for her to interact with the real world.

I mean, it's possible that Firn decided our primary antagonist is a drooling moron, but I really hope not.

Doesn't have to bomb us. Just get information from what we say and ask and feed us half-truths to trick us into doing dumb things. Kyubey is good at what he does. Talking to him is very very dangerous.
Keep in mind that his usual targets are teenage girls who trust him far too much. We are a rather harder target... I'd like to say because we're calmly rational about these things, but more likely because about half of us would violently object to Kyubey asserting that the sky was blue. :D

We're not emotionally unstable, we have a huge store of canon knowledge, he can't outright lie, and if we do talk to him we'll probably ignore whatever he says anyway. There very much is a ceiling to how risky this can be for us.

That is a bit odd. But it could just be that Oriko tried to contact us, but we were unavailable for half an hour. Or she looked into her visions and contacted us the very first moment that we would be amenable to any sort of conversation. If she had tried contacting us earlier - just after we had exited the Barrier while Mami was still near catatonic, for instance - that would have been bad.
She also told us that it would be safe if we left it for an hour, when actually Sayaka was right outside the Witch's Barrier.

I read this quote as Oriko contrasting our actions (things just "change") with what happened here (instead "spliced/truncated").
Hrm. That's a plausible reading, I guess. Oriko is not being especially coherent in this scene, so it's hard to tell.

My point about Sayaka almost certainly walking to the Witch like normal still stands, though.

This only happened when a large group of people were kissed.
Out of a sample of two, yes... :rolleyes:

We don't actually know how far the first woman walked. So, really, it's a sample of one.

Hitomi was attacked along with a massive group of people, once, in a city known to have a massive witch infestation. It's really not that unlikely. The point is that you're ignoring Mami and Homura who know a lot more about how this works than you do.
From the scene where Madoka found Hitomi, it doesn't seem like the group she was in was attacked. It looked like unrelated people from all over the city were attacked, and they only gathered into a group at the warehouse.

I still don't think Mami and Homura were nearly as unambiguous about the situation as you do.

If the 100 meter range limit is only surpassed within our barrier and not outside f it, it's usefulness is limited.
Yes, but we don't know that it's only surpassed within our Barrier. We haven't tested it. It's worth pointing out that Walpurgisnacht somehow learned to evoke Barrier-like effects, heavy environment and physics manipulation almost certainly beyond our regular Grief abilities, outside of a Barrier and at a range greater than 100 meters. This is very likely on the Barrier tech tree. I'd like us to be seasoned Barrier manipulators before Walpurgisnacht gets here, so that we can learn as much as we can from her.

I'd also be more than satisfied if our unlimited range only works within the Barrier but our Barrier can interact with the real world at multiple simultaneous points more than 100m distant. Which, again, we haven't tested.

Just grief up Mary Poppins's bag if you want that effect.
Do we know this works? Do we know Bags of Holding aren't sufficiently dimensional-shenanigans-y to cause the same problems as Barriers?

We can't even handle conversations with teenagers. Never mind a master manipulator like Kyuubey.
That's strictly speaking true, if you're worried about us making Kyubey fragile and emotionally dependent on us... :rofl:

There's things we know that witches can do with barriers. We are not guaranteed the same abilities,
Mami and ourself both seemed to think that our Barrier is completely normal, as Barriers go. Just because someone new is making the Barrier doesn't mean all our accumulated knowledge about them vanishes.

We actually did this stuff in Sendai.
I don't think we did even close to all you're claiming. I will accept citations, though.

Well, yeah. The thing is, what does a vote to simply freak out do? Besides waste time and word count that is.
I think the hope is that it will improve our social link with Homura. Which seems worth it to me.

Besides, I prefer it when Sabrina acts more genuine, and I think she needs a hug right now. :)

[X] Hug your mom and be freaked out together.
 
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Keep in mind that his usual targets are teenage girls who trust him far too much. We are a rather harder target... I'd like to say because we're calmly rational about these things, but more likely because about half of us would violently object to Kyubey asserting that the sky was blue. :D

We're not emotionally unstable, we have a huge store of canon knowledge, he can't outright lie, and if we do talk to him we'll probably ignore whatever he says anyway. There very much is a ceiling to how risky this can be for us.
Homura never trusted him either. He found what he was looking for, though. He's a dangerous conversational partner.

Also just hugging Homura right now is a bad idea. Seems to me she tugged at the ribbon because she just contemplated dropping us from timestop and running away. Or worse. She doesn't know what to do because threatening won't work, and neither will running away in timestop.
 
Highly doubt it. Firn doesn't seem like the type to pull surprise crossovers.
Eh, I was not being serious about it anyways, but seriously, feathers gives off the vibes of an Eldrich being to me, of a much greater scope then many witches.
 
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Onmur's looks good, but I'm not sure at present moment.

Anything is better than saying "Mom" in a vote, and then hugging the girl who just thought about running away. She's not in a touchy mood, I mean.
 
See, now you say that, but-
Mami has a magical ribbon attached to her. She can't run away. She's feeling trapped, I think.
Of course she's feeling trapped
This is a problem that has never occured before in any of the other loops and she can't just threaten it or shoot it to make it disappear.
It could be months if not years, since she last had that sort of problem, where she really didn't know what to do.
She doesn't see a solution to all of the current problems and feathers is just the last one added to the pile next to the Oriko situation.

She has to rely on Sabrina and Mami to help her fix this thing, which is difficult, with all of her trust issues.
That she is still standing there admitting that for once she doesn't know what to do and hasn't snapped the ribbon connecting her to us is huge.
 
There are better ways to do so. Hugging might be fine but calling her mom? Are you guys for real? What's the point behind it?
I'm pretty sure calling Homura's just a joke. Sabrina's not gonna hug her and whisper 'I love you mom'.

Anyways, with all the talk about Homura feeling trapped, I'm thinking we should just end the convo here with no physical contact. Gonna have ta reread the updare first though before I change my vote.
 
I'm pretty sure calling Homura's just a joke. Sabrina's not gonna hug her and whisper 'I love you mom'.

There was a time the term "meguca" made it into a vote with "[x]" and everything and it caused Sabrina to said it out loud and in front of Homura.

Same thing happened when there was a proper vote regarding microwaving tea.

I'm not kidding here. Please be careful with your votes, for they hold true power.

PD: I mean, if you guys still wish to do so, go and do it. Not gonna disuade you all of it or anything but I hope you guys have a plan regarding some sort of damage control after it.
 
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