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Well, ideally, we'd have talked to Hitomi alone or with Sayaka but events moving too fast and other factors meant that didn't happen.

Apparently, a group setting would be better for the magic reveal despite most of the parties not being happy about said reveal's contents, because reasons. You'll need to ask SWB for the reasoning since it didn't make much sense to me.

Besides, handling it like that rather than doing the reveal solo from the get-go would just be awkward because of Mami's limpet issues if nothing else.
 
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Jackercracks said:
I mean we can but it would be awkward as all hell to do that to our friends.
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More awkward than trying to make our lifestyle choices sound simultaneously desirable and undesirable? Even if we just made it clear to our friends we were going to be blunt about some of the grisly bits and asked if they wanted to stay, rather than requesting they go? The margin of compromise between our two goals seems uncomfortably thin and we really don't want to fall short on either.
 
We can pretty much cover healing Kyousuke as something that's pretty much at the top of our to-do list, but that since none of the girls in Mitakihara are specialized healers, it'll take some time to fully heal. Given how extensive the damage was, it could take multiple hours-long sessions to heal.
So, in short: we'll at least start the process today or tomorrow, and it might take a few days in total, but we'll get it done for sure, and soon.
That should reassure Sayaka and Hitomi more than enough.

We should also be sure to cover just how difficult it makes a girl's life to contract, even if they aren't killed throughout the daily dangers of the forced lifestyle. Things like really hurting your social life, interfering with work/careers, a need to be constantly on top of your soul gem's status and the eternal risk/reward balance for hunting for Grief Seeds--some form into groups and are far better off for it, but it's still quite dangerous. It's a decision you can never take back, and it will force you to prioritize it above all else, at all times.
We might not have to go that far, but if it seems like Sayaka isn't taking it as seriously as she should, then...

SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
"Insanity, then death" seems workable if this question pops up for anyone.
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Pretty much. After explaining/learning that Soul Gems literally contain an MG's soul, the idea that said MG would die if the gem gets fully depleted should be a logical extrapolation.

As for the insanity part, there's a bunch of ways to interpret that that aren't dangerous. You could easily compare it to someone who goes too long without drinking any water--they become irrational, desperate, and eventually insane. Or, if going by the corruption wording, then a person's soul gem getting more corrupted would make sense as a cause of increasing insanity.

Of course, using the word 'corruption' is a very dangerous practice to begin with, considering how it's an easy logical step to go from "soul gems literally contain your soul" and "soul gems get more corrupted over time" to "oh hey Grief Seeds look a lot like Soul Gems and are made out of the exact same stuff Sabrina pulls out of our soul gems, a.k.a. 'corruption', and when your soul gem gets fully corrupted you go insane and die. That seems kinda connected..."

Mami might be a bit safer from that risk because she would deliberately cut off that line of thought and avoid it like the plague for as long as possible. She would probably figure (though not consciously) that it was true, but she would very much avoid confirming it, so as to live with the possibility that it isn't true.
 
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We can pretty much cover healing Kyousuke as something that's pretty much at the top of our to-do list, but that since none of the girls in Mitakihara are specialized healers, it'll take some time to fully heal. Given how extensive the damage was, it could take multiple hours-long sessions to heal.
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I'm still convinced that it should be pretty quick to heal him if magic works anything like what I expect it to. If healing magic costs based on the amount of tissue needs to be regrown then we've regrown whole limbs while the mass of tissue needed to fix his nerves/tendons should be tiny. If it works based on complexity then rearranging some nerve endings is still massively less complicated than growing new limbs. If it works by restoring people to some platonic ideal then we're still fine because the divergence should be small.

Unless it works nothing like I think it does then we shouldn't need a pro healer.
 
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Homura claimed it was an expensive injury to heal, which implies a lot of healing to be done. That does seem at odds with "the hard part is regrowing tissue" that we've seen in other healing attempts. It's possible healing difficulty is more on some conceptual or metaphysical level to do with severity of injury or some other such BS, because magic. Shrug, guess we'll find out soon.
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
Homura claimed it was an expensive injury to heal, which implies a lot of healing to be done. That does seem at odds with "the hard part is regrowing tissue" that we've seen in other healing attempts. It's possible healing difficulty is more on some conceptual or metaphysical level to do with severity of injury or some other such BS, because magic. Shrug, guess we'll find out soon.
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All injuries should be expensive to heal for a non-healer, right? Growing back that arm for Oriko should take about 8 seeds worth by itself judging by how slow it's going. Even 2 Seeds worth is an expensive injury for a normal magical girl. We've never really kept track of how many seeds our healing would take if we cleansed the conventional way. Guess we will find out.
 
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All injuries should be expensive to heal for a non-healer, right? Growing back that arm for Oriko should take about 8 seeds worth by itself judging by how slow it's going. Even 2 Seeds worth is an expensive injury for a normal magical girl. We've never really kept track of how many seeds our healing would take if we cleansed the conventional way. Guess we will find out.
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Back when Homura and Mami healed our leg, the first cleanse was at half full for Mami (panic) and about almost 1/5 for Homura. Next cleansing had Mami's at 1/3 and Homura's not mentioned.

After that:
It takes past an hour and several more cleanses to heal your leg fully- that mine had made an utter mess of your leg. Homura did the majority, though not by much, of the work, her healing seemingly far more efficient than Mami's, who simply brute forced it. You speculate that perhaps Homura simply had more time to hone her skills.
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2-3 seeds?...

Unless that time she healed Kyousuke was many many loops ago, then 'expensive healing' for Homura would equate with 'very expensive healing' for, say, Mami, since Homura's noted to be a lot more efficient, due to practice: She both accumulates less grief while healing and heals quicker than Mami.

Of course, there's three of us this time, but would it be silly uncomfortable for all three to crowd around one guy's arm?
 
"Expensive healing" for a Homura reliant on grief seeds isn't necessarily expensive for one with a Sabrina Black Card. For all we know she considered half a seed expensive.
 
Onmur said:
Back when Homura and Mami healed our leg, the first cleanse was at half full for Mami (panic) and about almost 1/5 for Homura. Next cleansing had Mami's at 1/3 and Homura's not mentioned.

After that:

2-3 seeds?...

Unless that time she healed Kyousuke was many many loops ago, then 'expensive healing' for Homura would equate with 'very expensive healing' for, say, Mami, since Homura's noted to be a lot more efficient, due to practice: She both accumulates less grief while healing and heals quicker than Mami.

Of course, there's three of us this time, but would it be silly uncomfortable for all three to crowd around one guy's arm?
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You'd assume it would be one of the earlier loops, right? Back when she was still trying to save Sayaka from contracting as well, before she gave up on everyone but Madoka. We should have a little less than an hour at the hospital if I've got my timings right. We might be cutting it a bit fine, maybe we'll have to go back alone during school tomorrow or finish up some other time. It's hard to be sure.
 
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The only way a particularly large amount of time should be necessary is if healing magic is actually re-purposed time magic. In which case, many other problems suddenly become solved.
 
Or if healing nerves and muscles in a nonmeguca when they've been mangled like his is especially complicated for nonspecialists. We just can't say how long it'll take yet.
 
Sooo... Timestop creeps people out. If we do the healing in timestop, would that be enough for Violin boy to not crush on megucas?
 
Homura's spent plenty of time in a hospital, surely she knows where they keep the good stuff (to keep Kwyjibo out like a light during the procedure without adversely affecting him). :V
 
Baroque said:
Homura's spent plenty of time in a hospital, surely she knows where they keep the good stuff (to keep Kwyjibo out like a light during the procedure without adversely affecting him). :V
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Too dangerous. Unless Homura or one of the other meguca is an experienced medical professional in disguise, we could easily end up overdosing Kyousuke and doing permanent harm.
 
landcollector said:
Too dangerous. Unless Homura or one of the other meguca is an experienced medical professional in disguise, we could easily end up overdosing Kyousuke and doing permanent harm.
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Hence the qualifier 'without adversely affecting him'.

I'm well aware of the harm it can do if done wrong.
 
Gadjo said:
Seriously, grief disguises. He'll never know who healed him. We can even pretend we're ghosts or some shit.
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"Sabrina."

The magical girl in the mask of a certain Psychic-type Gym Leader turned to the one who'd addressed her. "What is it, Homura?"

"It's about these masks."

"Hm? What about them?"

"'What about them'? Look." She swept her arm to encompass the room -- among the faces that turned to look were one in a bonnet, one that looked like the flame of a candle, a three-eyed helmet, a shifting mass of black lines, and something resembling an odd store mannequin.

"What're you--" Sabrina started, before the light turned on in the attic (and a small fight broke out). "Oh."

"Yes. Now," Homura then pointed up at the strange floral mask she'd been given, before continuing in a voice that could glaciate the Sahara: "mind telling me what this is?"
 
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