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Jackercracks
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Ugo's vote looks pretty reasonable at the moment, though I'm biased because it still has chunks of mine in it.
By not caring about showing magic in public, we do get to heal Hitomi's arm by the time we get to hospital.
By not caring about showing magic in public, we do get to heal Hitomi's arm by the time we get to hospital.
We're not letting Kyubey dictate our actions and doing so is making our own life harder for no real gain for anyone but the rat.
I was writing a vote, looked at yours and went "wait this is a written version of what I'm trying to put together with somewhat different wording".
I'll say it again: Why don't we just let Madoka and Sayaka explain? I mean, they're Hitomi's friends, they should be able to explain it better than we can?
Jackercracks
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I worry that if we do we'll end up with a rather short update. It tends to be the trend when we don't micromanage.
Less awkward for Sayaka since our hand's been forced here and there's no real reason to stall further.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I don't wish Kyubey going through anybody's mind. Plus, we're in Japan; lots of people needing to go lots of places and causing a ruckus is just gonna get loads of annoyed people late for whatever they're doing. Both because we're causing a ruckus and because they'll get pulled aside by KB so it can riffle to their minds and overwrite them to it's wishes.
Marbles, telepathy, 'cantrips' as I put it is fine. Marbles'll get disregarded as toys from afar; telepathy is invisible.
Transformation is just no. It's not about what the rat wants. When did we stop caring that people are getting their minds fucked with if we're not careful?
It would get them mindwiped, which is kind of a dick move, especially when we can easily drag Hitomi off to somewhere private.
That rat can possibly make our lives very difficult if we provoke him like this. Besides, doing this will almost certainly make him show up.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Mami has the information, but she hasn't come to the worst possible conclusion. She considers herself a magical girl. Not a 'child soldier'. Context means a lot. Letting Hitomi know about the dangers of contracting is good. Playing up the trauma for all it's worth is much much more destructive than it is helpful.
I'd really prefer to not risk another grief awning incident. There's no reason to be that careless.
If we play along with Kyubey, it doesn't do us any favors. Kyubey isn't a person and isn't going to react the way a person would. I don't see retaliation for breaking the masquerade...and he's almost certain to show when mentioned.
This is not a grief awning incident. That was a terrifying blob of grief hovering over everyone's heads. This is more "post it on youtube" material if anything.
Added a oneliner for "get in an alleyway or something".
[x]Use telepathy for the first line only. Hitomi, we need to talk about something.
-[x]Make sure that she actually heard you. If not, replace telepathy with spoken word.
[x]Mami, Homura and I are magical girls, and that isn't a good thing.
-[x]Demonstrate if necessary, out of sight to avoid needless mindwipes.
-[x]An alien named Kyubey tricks girls into contracts without telling them the real costs. He's a liar who's always trying to make things worse.
-[x]Soul gems. Needing to fight hidden monsters called witches.
[x]We were talking about healing Kyosuke, together. Mami, Homura, would you like to lend a hand? It shouldn't take long.
[x] Come on, I'll heal that arm of yours while we walk the rest of the way to the hospital.
[x] Sayaka, Madoka and Mami field questions about the rest.
[x]Telepathy Hitomi. She and Sayaka should talk, sometime soon.
This is not a grief awning incident. That was a terrifying blob of grief hovering over everyone's heads. This is more "post it on youtube" material if anything.
Added a oneliner for "get in an alleyway or something".
[x]Use telepathy for the first line only. Hitomi, we need to talk about something.
-[x]Make sure that she actually heard you. If not, replace telepathy with spoken word.
[x]Mami, Homura and I are magical girls, and that isn't a good thing.
-[x]Demonstrate if necessary, out of sight to avoid needless mindwipes.
-[x]An alien named Kyubey tricks girls into contracts without telling them the real costs. He's a liar who's always trying to make things worse.
-[x]Soul gems. Needing to fight hidden monsters called witches.
[x]We were talking about healing Kyosuke, together. Mami, Homura, would you like to lend a hand? It shouldn't take long.
[x] Come on, I'll heal that arm of yours while we walk the rest of the way to the hospital.
[x] Sayaka, Madoka and Mami field questions about the rest.
[x]Telepathy Hitomi. She and Sayaka should talk, sometime soon.
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Jackercracks
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I'd say around about the moment we got wings. People look up, out of their windows. We fly past tower blocks of people at their windows on a regular basis. We probably cause dozens of mindwipes every time we go for a flight. It's a bit late to go against mindwipes on moral grounds seeing as no-one minds when we fly places.
Now, practical grounds like not wanting to get mobbed by randomers asking if magic is real still gets a look in. Might as well restrain it to stuff that'll stop that happening, seeing as there's no real reason not to.
I feel the need to point out the grief awning wasn't really the same. It would have been a problem because it was a visible threat during peace negotiations. Though that doesn't invalidate your point.
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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Somewhere between when we jumped across the river to get to Kasamino and when we flew to the top of the school on wings of darkness. Part of it is that you're overstating the problem with "overwrite them to its wishes". There is no indication that it does anything but remove magical occurrences, and if it were to go farther it could do that regardless.
Please turn this sentiment into a vote
Gadjo
Doka
The rephrased version shouldn't cause any problems. She knows everything we say in that vote, and we don't expand on it in any meaningful way. She'll be fine.
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[x]Use telepathy for the first line only. Hitomi, we need to talk about something.
-[x]Make sure that she actually heard you. If not, replace telepathy with spoken word.
[x]Mami, Homura and I are magical girls, and that isn't a good thing.
-[x]Demonstrate if necessary, out of sight to avoid needless mindwipes.
-[x]An alien named Kyubey tricks girls into contracts without telling them the real costs. He's a liar who's always trying to make things worse.
-[x]Soul gems. Needing to fight hidden monsters called witches.
[x]We were talking about healing Kyosuke, together. Mami, Homura, would you like to lend a hand? It shouldn't take long.
[x] Come on, I'll heal that arm of yours while we walk the rest of the way to the hospital.
[x] Sayaka, Madoka and Mami field questions about the rest.
[x]Telepathy Hitomi. She and Sayaka should talk, sometime soon.
Let's not just assume that telepathy will work. I don't think it will.
-[x]Make sure that she actually heard you. If not, replace telepathy with spoken word.
[x]Mami, Homura and I are magical girls, and that isn't a good thing.
-[x]Demonstrate if necessary, out of sight to avoid needless mindwipes.
-[x]An alien named Kyubey tricks girls into contracts without telling them the real costs. He's a liar who's always trying to make things worse.
-[x]Soul gems. Needing to fight hidden monsters called witches.
[x]We were talking about healing Kyosuke, together. Mami, Homura, would you like to lend a hand? It shouldn't take long.
[x] Come on, I'll heal that arm of yours while we walk the rest of the way to the hospital.
[x] Sayaka, Madoka and Mami field questions about the rest.
[x]Telepathy Hitomi. She and Sayaka should talk, sometime soon.
Let's not just assume that telepathy will work. I don't think it will.
Jackercracks
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- England
Already got edited in, unless you mean even less trauma.
Anyone want to bet that Kyubey shows up with his "I never directly lie" routine the moment we call him a liar? I'd call him a trickster but it makes him sound dashing. Manipulator? Intellectually dishonest? What's the word...
That's not the only reason. As worded it comes on too strong, and isn't really representative
Yes, that is part of it. Manipulator would work
He's a liar and we can argue that point. That routine's just that, a bad joke. It doesn't matter how much you dress it up, when the sane thing to do is to distrust every single word that comes out of your...non-existent mouth, you're a liar.
The vote is completely fine with the balance between honesty and being blunt, and that nitpick doesn't add anything while managing to imply Kyubey isn't quite as bad as he actually is. Those objections don't hold water at all and the suggested changes don't add anything. Keeping the vote as is unless someone else has suggestions.
Added...but I'll be surprised if it doesn't.
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Jackercracks
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- England
Well, if he does show up it's not exactly a negative. Mami won't like it much but it'll show Hitomi what he looks like. It balances out.
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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Isn't replacing telepathy with spoken word after line 1 a good idea whether it works or not? Telepathy works to get the point across, but after that continuing the conversation without moving our mouth before she's had a chance to get used to the idea will just make us seem more unnerving.
I find the idea of "keeping things from people for their own safety" to be reprehensible unless it is a very specific situation where the knowledge is known to cause specific harm (e.g. Mami and the witchbomb - and even that should be a question of how and when to tell her rather than hiding it from her forever). Is Madoka compassionate and likely to feel bad when she realizes the full extent of the situation? Yes. Is she going to make a stupid wish because of it? No. Have a little trust in the girl who has proven to be the most stable of all of us. Madoka's safety can be ensured by telling her more (witchbomb, time loops, Kriemhild Gretchen), not by hiding things from her.
Hitomi should be told about magic by people who can use magic. Madoka and Sayaka know about magic but they are not magical girls. They are only potential contractees, and even that is irrelevant because we don't want them to ever contract.
I don't suggest that we use the phrase "child soldier". That's an emotionally charged image and it's unnecessary when we can just state the simple facts and dangers about fighting witches (which Mami already knows).
Deceptive.
[x] Hitomi, there's something we've been meaning to tell you. Mami, Homura and I are magical girls.
-[x] Demonstrate by bringing a couple of grief marbles and playing with them by hovering and rotating them around each other. If she can't see the grief, pick up some pebbles and demonstrate with those.
-[x] Magical girls are not like the shows you see on TV.
-[x] We fight witches who are reality warping horrors that kill people.
-[x] Normal people cannot see witches, so the fight is in secret, and nobody ever knows about the girls who fight to protect them.
-[x] Sometimes the witches kill the magical girls who try to stop them.
-[x] Girls who are killed by witches usually have their bodies destroyed and no one ever finds out what happened to them.
-[x] The life expectancy of a magical girl is generally short (probably less than a year, Mami would know better).
-[x] We were tricked into a contract by a deceptive ancient alien hiding behind the form of a fuzzy telepathic mutant cat thing.
-[x] Our souls are removed and kept in gems which power our magic.
-[x] Magic use and negative emotions cause the soul gem to accumulate grief, which in turn directly affects the happiness and sanity of the bearer.
-[x] People generally use grief seeds (obtained from witches) to remove grief from their soul gems, but sometimes they have difficulty finding enough seeds to get enough cleansing.
-[x] If grief fills up the gem, then the girl dies.
-[x] Still, it's not all bad. We three are stronger and luckier than most. My power lets me control grief and cleanse gems directly. And magic has healing properties.
[x] Today I was hoping to try healing Kyousuke. Mami, Homura, would you like to lend a hand? It shouldn't take long.
[x] Come on, I'll heal that arm of yours while we walk the rest of the way to the hospital.
[x] We or Mami field questions about magical girls.
...We are. The point is to repeat the line out loud if telepathy's a bust.