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Higure said:
I've been gone a while...have we determined if things altered through Grief processes remain altered after we leave?

Could we rearrange some atomic structures and turn lead into gold? Or maybe we could create a device which uses conventional forces to effect a similar change?

Or a Grief printing press that uses real materials and methods, but does it using Grief to guarantee perfect copies or something?

Alternatively, we could become a back alley doctor and make a killing on mysterious miracle healings.
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Current moneymaking schemes include getting Oriko to predict the lottery, robbing the Yakuza, betting on sporting events Homura remembers, a spree of ATM robberies or some combination of the above.

The dents and gouges all over warehouse-kun imply that changes made using grief are persistent, although the fine control to rearrange atoms is likely to be beyond us. Also, if we screw up we might accidentally nuclear fission.
 
Torgamous said:
The results of a magic grief healing wand are reversed when we get out of range, but it'd be really weird if just using grief to move matter from point A to point B didn't leave the matter at point B.
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Exactly...it's really strange. I'm still not sure what determines permanency or not. More research is needed.

Jackercracks said:
The dents and gouges all over warehouse-kun imply that changes made using grief are persistent, although the fine control to rearrange atoms is likely to be beyond us. Also, if we screw up we might accidentally nuclear fission.
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...was that damage done with normal Grief or Witch Grief, and (if Witch Grief), was it doing anything weird, or just being a projectile? I can't recall.

I'm pretty sure it's only the Witch Grief that has trouble with permanency, but figuring out the limits will take some work.
 
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[x] moonstne

I like it. We could also go back to my list of conversational topics if desperate.

Anyway, progress with roofhopping! Awesome! It's paying off!
 
I'd be willing to bet that the issue with the healing construct was that it was reconstructing her arm out Grief as opposed to actually promoting healing.

We leave and it comes apart once our will isn't holding it together.
 
Meanwhile, I witnessesed my mother commit the gravest of sins: she microwaved her tea. I immediately thought of this quest when I saw it, too.
 
So, what's actually wrong with iced green tea? Hitomi and our oujo never really explained the problem...
 
Krecart said:
I'd be willing to bet that the issue with the healing construct was that it was reconstructing her arm out Grief as opposed to actually promoting healing.

We leave and it comes apart once our will isn't holding it together.
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With the first one, yes. The infinity gauntlet was supposed to just boost our magical healing, though, so...hmm. Maybe we got a detail wrong with its design?

Krecart said:
So, what's actually wrong with iced green tea? Hitomi and our oujo never really explained the problem...
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Nothing...if you're not a hot tea connoisseur. Ice dilutes the tea rapidly as it melts and cools it rapidly (which affects the flavor, and maybe the texture).
 
moonstne said:
The ring is probably a Chekhov's Gun at this point.

Feathers: Muhahaha, I have gotten rid of all grief within 100 meters and all soulgems are completely clean. Your powerless to defeat me and doomed!
Sabrina: It seems you have covered all bases, except you forgot about the grief ring!
Feathers: No! How could I have forgotten, I am infallible! *dies*
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Sabrina delivers a single punch with her right hand on Feather's face. As it lands, she gives a command:
make mordite
 
Higure said:
With the first one, yes. The infinity gauntlet was supposed to just boost our magical healing, though, so...hmm. Maybe we got a detail wrong with its design?
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Perhaps we can't 'boost' our magical healing without injecting grief into the healing process.

Assuming the problem is that there's still some grief being used for repairs, we could try a two or three step healing, maybe? First, witchy-augmented healing; second, temporarily stabilizing the regrown arm with witchy grief; third, removing and replacing all grief from the arm with non-grief flesh.

Of course, we've only got assumptions as to why the healing would've failed.
 
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I'd prefer to stick to science with obvious applications in de-witching before we get started on this other stuff. Might as well exhaust the low hanging fruit before we go after the more tenuous stuff after all.
 
Jackercracks said:
I'd prefer to stick to science with obvious applications in de-witching before we get started on this other stuff. Might as well exhaust the low hanging fruit before we go after the more tenuous stuff after all.
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Well, checking if Witch stuff has permanence is as simple as looking for the damage caused by the phaser and blaster. That's all we'd have to do. Maybe try it again just to confirm the results.
 
Krecart said:
Well, checking if Witch stuff has permanence is as simple as looking for the damage caused by the phaser and blaster. That's all we'd have to do. Maybe try it again just to confirm the results.
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Do you think it's likely that stuff we move with grief automatically undoes itself after we leave? I feel like that would be quite bizarre if it did. The actions of Witches leave results (like if a witch takes your arm off for example). Having a pseudo time-reversal power like that would be very odd, I think we would have noticed.
 
Jackercracks said:
Do you think it's likely that stuff we move with grief automatically undoes itself after we leave? I feel like that would be quite bizarre if it did. The actions of Witches leave results (like if a witch takes your arm off for example). Having a pseudo time-reversal power like that would be very odd, I think we would have noticed.
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I really don't, but much like the Grief ring, checking would settle the issue quickly. That way we never have to hear about it again.
 
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