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...Goddamnit. We're still going to salvage this because if we're going to have to deal with this mess, the least we can do is get something back from it.

Depending on how far anti-magic's effects go, we may want to intervene to keep Mami from going splat. Yes, she's a veteran but we don't know how bad the hits were, this is definitely not the time for a lichbomb, and keeping her in the fight probably works better than trying for cheap shots while 2/3rds of our team is out of commission.
 
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Yeah it seems to have not only shut down the time stop but disrupted Homura's abilities on a more lingering basis. Worse still this seems to have been outside Homura's experience in the loops considering the effects on her shield actually shocked her.

If we could re-engage the timestop outside Kirika's range then retreating to do so would be the reasonable solution, but we don't know how long it will take for Homura's shield to repair.

What's more interesting is that Oriko told Kirika no right before she did her anti-magic pulse.
 
I wonder if the anti-magic shuts down Oriko's precognition while it's active. In that case, she can't predict our attacks. /wishful thinking
 
inverted_helix said:
Yeah it seems to have not only shut down the time stop but disrupted Homura's abilities on a more lingering basis. Worse still this seems to have been outside Homura's experience in the loops considering the effects on her shield actually shocked her.

If we could re-engage the timestop outside Kirika's range then retreating to do so would be the reasonable solution, but we don't know how long it will take for Homura's shield to repair.

What's more interesting is that Oriko told Kirika no right before she did her anti-magic pulse.
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Like no bullshit Homura's only ability is timestop and a magic laser she uses all of once in the series. Her aim was off because her shield is jumping around and shaking, still its not good. And running into a meguca with an AOE antimagic field that can be pulsed? That's a very exacting set of circumstances leading to that kind of wish, namely that Kirika wished to serve Oriko.

Homu might have to completely reset her shield and god knows how long that will take.
 
Well, here goes nothing. Homura should be fine where she is...but that's taken her out of the fight for the moment. If Mami lands badly, leaving her alone at ground level is a bad idea, and if she lands well (more likely), better to have the two currently combat-capable megucas at ground level.

Please speak up if you have a better alternative.

[]Dive after Mami. If we can summon a second hammer, throw our first at Oriko as we drop to deter more orb casting/distract Kirika, then focus on landing.
[]Do you really want to do this, Oriko?
 
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Dirtnap said:
Like no bullshit Homura's only ability is timestop and a magic laser she uses all of once in the series. Her aim was off because her shield is jumping around and shaking, still its not good. And running into a meguca with an AOE antimagic field that can be pulsed? That's a very exacting set of circumstances leading to that kind of wish, namely that Kirika wished to serve Oriko.

Homu might have to completely reset her shield and god knows how long that will take.
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I'm not sure if you're objecting to my point on the basis that Homura doesn't use much magic in combat or concurring with my point because her time stop has been totally shut down.

Even if she sticks to conventional weapons though having a vibrator attached to her arm is going to make for really shitty accuracy even if she tries to account for it.

Mister Bad Guy said:
The antimagic pulse destroyed the ribbons that were holding her up. With no momentum left from the jump and no support...
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She only broke her arm in the fall though, considering she immediately started counterattacking after landing it doesn't seem like it had much impact on her combat effectiveness. Having Kirika able to help her and us unable to drop her from the timestop at will is better in terms of her combat position even with the negative of breaking her arm in the exchange. Especially since a Meguca really doesn't need to be concerned with something like shock or bleeding out if she's aware of being a lich.

I feel like there's something else here that I'm missing. Some other factor for why she wouldn't want Kirika to anti-magic-pulse.
 
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... Alright. So what're we hoping to achieve here, now? Disengage ASAP? Injure one or the other of them to slow them down and force grief expenditure, then bail? Attack them both, hope they run out of power and/or functioning body parts before we do, then interrogate what's left?

Homura does still have a squad support weapon, Mami's got some muskets already manifested which will hopefully work, and we've got a very large hammer. We still have options.
 
...I'm guessing it's not that she wanted to negotiate. :rolleyes:

We make a fight of it, we're not getting another chance like this and we're about evenly matched with a very slight edge in terms of fighting ability/injuries at the moment. The goal is to get Oriko to be permanently non-hostile one way or another by the end of this fight.
 
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Being able to disable Kirika would be best, as we could actually deal with oriko then
Maybe throw out the "Kirikas wish fucked up her mind for you" Reveal to try and throw them off a bit.
 
Sightedjt said:
Being able to disable Kirika would be best, as we could actually deal with oriko then
Maybe throw out the "Kirikas wish fucked up her mind for you" Reveal to try and throw them off a bit.
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That's hopefully part of our "talk Oriko into reconsidering strategy" along with commenting how her plan's going to inevitably get Kirika killed and mentioning her family.
 
Ugolino said:
...I'm guessing it's not that she wanted to negotiate. :rolleyes:

We make a fight of it, we're not getting another chance like this and we're about evenly matched with a very slight edge in terms of fighting ability/injuries at the moment.
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Not sure what you mean by that?

I thought that it might have been that she wanted to negotiate, but she immediately launched an attack on Mami once she reached the ground. If she had wanted to negotiate I don't think she would have attacked.

celdak said:
Welp. Remind me why we didn't take their gems before doing this?
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Because their gems are them, and are attached to them, touching the gems would have pulled them into the timestop regardless.
 
inverted_helix said:
Not sure what you mean by that?

I thought that it might have been that she wanted to negotiate, but she immediately launched an attack on Mami once she reached the ground. If she had wanted to negotiate I don't think she would have attacked.
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Pretty sure Ugo was being sarcastic.

Also, either way - Mami was preparing to shoot Oriko as she made her dive, so Oriko defended herself. Made a minor edit to make that clearer.
 
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UberJJK said:
First thought that came to mind when I saw Homura's shield sparking is that it's broken for good. No more timestop and no more timeloops.
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Yeah that's a worry for me too. Seems a bit unlikely though. I mean aoe antimagic is one thing, but permanently breaking another meguca's power does not seem in the scope of that.
Firnagzen said:
Pretty sure Ugo was being sarcastic.
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He might mean it sarcastically, but Ugo was still planning on attempting negotiation. So it's really unclear.
 
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