Yeah, no. Keep in mind the state Mami is in right now. Even if she agreed to such an idea (let alone if she didn't panic at the mere mention of it), it'd trigger all of her issues at once.

1) Deathly afraid of somehow hurting (or worse) Sabrina, even entirely by accident.
2) Deathly afraid of not performing up to expectations, disappointing Sabrina.
3) Deathly afraid of fighting with Sabrina in any way, out of sheer fear that Sabrina would distance herself from/leave her.
4) Deathly afraid of souring her relationship with Sabrina in any way, even by something as minor as being an annoyance in a spar.

On top of that, Mami has already seen a lot of what we can do, so she'll know just how much we'd be holding back. And with her issues, it'd make avoiding offending or hurting Mami in this situation make the one with Kyouko look like a cake walk.
True. ...Still a shorter term goal than getting her and Kyoko to spar.

How much would we really need to hold back against Mami, though? Most of our stuff, including soul gem theft, can be countered by ribbons or ranged bombardment. We wouldn't use an indestructible grief cocoon, but given Mami's appreciation of showmanship I can't see her objecting to that.
 
True. ...Still a shorter term goal than getting her and Kyoko to spar.

How much would we really need to hold back against Mami, though? Most of our stuff, including soul gem theft, can be countered by ribbons or ranged bombardment. We wouldn't use an indestructible grief cocoon, but given Mami's appreciation of showmanship I can't see her objecting to that.
I'm thinking the only things she couldn't counter (that we know how to do) would be the 100m grief blender, and remote gem shattering. Our grief isn't totally indestructible, so I can pretty easily see her breaking through it, and she can snatch her own gem with ribbons to keep us from taking it. Hell, on that note, given how good she is with those ribbons, couldn't she do a decent imitation of our gem snatch? We should look into that later.
 
Our grief isn't totally indestructible,
We can make grief block all forms of observation, so I'm not so sure we can't do the same thing to make it indestructible.
Hell, on that note, given how good she is with those ribbons, couldn't she do a decent imitation of our gem snatch? We should look into that later.
She's good enough to turn them into muskets. Forget gem snatching, she could probably make her own mobile fortress of doom now that corruption isn't an issue.
 
We can make grief block all forms of observation, so I'm not so sure we can't do the same thing to make it indestructible.

Shes good enough to turn them into muskets. Forget gem snatching, she could probably make her own mobile fortress of doom now that corruption isn't an issue.
Can she make hers fly, though? I think she would have to make a ribbon mech, rather than a flying fortress.
Also, I did not take into account witch-grief. That would probably work, yeah. We should test that. Let's see what happens when we hit unbreakable witch grief with witch grief that's made to break everythin-

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Vote is looking pretty good.
Might wanna pay her a compliment too:
"You're an absolute bitch to pin down, you know? And the hell is with your spear-nunchucks? Don't think I didn't see your pole-vaulting move -that shouldn't have been physically possible."

Bonding over the bullshit magic is capable of?
 
Vote is looking pretty good.
Might wanna pay her a compliment too:
"You're an absolute bitch to pin down, you know? And the hell is with your spear-nunchucks? Don't think I didn't see your pole-vaulting move -that shouldn't have been physically possible."

Bonding over the bullshit magic is capable of?
She did just use a spear to fly, didn't she? Add her to the flying race with Chouko. :V

Mami can likely fly with ribbon TK...

Momura likely's got a plane she can TK fly in her shield...

"Wish I could fly like that," Kirika says brightly.
Poor Kirika looks like the only one can only jump good. We need to make her some witchy-grief-attachable-wings or something. And a jetpack for Oriko, I guess.
 
When I think of 'Mami' and 'Vehicle' I think of either a fantasyland carriage or something involving using her ribbons a la Doc Ock to maneuver around.

Possibly a mixture of both, if we take liberties with Cinderella's carriage being made out of a pumpkin.
 
Yeah, no. Keep in mind the state Mami is in right now. Even if she agreed to such an idea (let alone if she didn't panic at the mere mention of it), it'd trigger all of her issues at once.

1) Deathly afraid of somehow hurting (or worse) Sabrina, even entirely by accident.
2) Deathly afraid of not performing up to expectations, disappointing Sabrina.
3) Deathly afraid of fighting with Sabrina in any way, out of sheer fear that Sabrina would distance herself from/leave her.
4) Deathly afraid of souring her relationship with Sabrina in any way, even by something as minor as being an annoyance in a spar.

On top of that, Mami has already seen a lot of what we can do, so she'll know just how much we'd be holding back. And with her issues, it'd make avoiding offending or hurting Mami in this situation make the one with Kyouko look like a cake walk.
These are very good points. It would be a nightmare to plan a spar with Mami while trying to avoid triggering these issues. However, if the issues were triggered and yet shown to be baseless (e.g. Mami thinks she would annoy us but we aren't actually annoyed), then it could help Mami's progress. Maybe. At some point she will need to face these issues, but a spar probably isn't the best place for it at the moment. Maybe later after she's a bit more confident.

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Mumi could definitely use Spider-Man style web/ribbon slinging to get around- I suspect the only reason she doesn't is because it's too visible, so QB told her not to.

Edit: Mumi is both experienced and creative enough that she's almost certainly thought about most of the ideas we're coming up with. If it was easy to use her power to fly, she'd already be doing it. Anything new that we suggest has to be either really far out of left field, sufficiently different from her usual aesthetic that she wouldn't consider it, or power intensive enough to be impractical without us.
 
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I suspect it's because that isn't mahou shoujo chic. She seems perfectly fine roofhopping, which is about as visible.
Sometime in the near future, we need to invest in some comic books in-game.

Batman for Homura, Spider-Man for Mami, and . . . shoot, I can't think of a somewhat-relevant hero for Kyouko. I should get some sleep.
 
Mumi could definitely use Spider-Man style web/ribbon slinging to get around- I suspect the only reason she doesn't is because it's too visible, so QB told her not to.

I suspect it's because that isn't mahou shoujo chic. She seems perfectly fine roofhopping, which is about as visible.
IIRC, our oujo Spidermans (this is a verb now) all over the place during her fight with Momura in Rebellion.
 
Spidermanning everywhere would also cost more magic than roofhopping for no appreciable gain, so maybe it's a purely practical choice.
IIRC, our oujo Spidermans (this is a verb now) all over the place during her fight with Momura in Rebellion.
That's in the middle of a battle. Different considerations.
 
Yeah, ok. Really just proves the point that she knows what she's doing, though. We'll probably end up picking her brain for ideas about our power, rather than the other way around.
Would still be fun to suggest things and experiment out in the scrapyard with weird powers. We should at least convince her to try the ribbon wings, if for no other reason than style. Unfortunately, since Kirika can't fly unassisted by any means, we'll just have to carry her around and drop her like a bomb onto people we don't like.
 
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