"lending them a house to stay in
Hoh, ok - didn't see THAT.
I was running off the impression that the Miki's were bunking with Hitomi's folks (I.e. I read 'lending them a room to stay in').

But a house? That's some moneybags there... Unless I'm misreading the situation and Hitomi's folks just happened to know a place without renters at the moment, or something (which would strike me as somewhat more likely than Hitomi's folks outright owning two properties in Mitakihara).

Anyway, yeah, that would make things much more difficult, but still not impossible.
 
Let's not invite Hitomi unless somebody insists. She'd be a constant reminder to Sayaka that she can't pay back the Shizuki's for taking her family in.
More than she already is?

We can a) make it clear the healing's happening because he's Sayaka's friend, b)do it as a group to minimize awkwardness.

Apologies. It seems like I won't be getting an update out today.
No worries, Firn. Life comes first.
 
Okay, reading fail. Yeah, I agree, though we do want Hitomi around in general as one of Mami's friends.
...Do we? Mami's interactions with Hitomi has been brief up till this point, and she is still, as far as I'm aware, completely unaware of magic or wishes. Do we really want to expose her to the world of magic, and the accompanying risk and and worry, just to have another friend for Mami?

It's not like she's hurting for potential friends right now, Madaka and Sayaka aside, there's also Kyouko and Masami, not to mention Homura, even if she is kinda awkward about things.
 
It's still not a good idea to involve regular civilians into matters involving magic if we don't have to. You saw how Madoka and Sayaka took it when we told them about the lichbomb, and we are going to have to repeat that to anyone who learns about Kyubey to turn them off the idea of contracting, because you can bet he'll contract anyone who asks, regardless of their potential.
 
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"Sabrina, please, let's both of us stop trying to justify this whole thing and admit you're in danger!"

"Who are you talking to right now? Who is it you think you see? Do you know how many meguca I cleanse in a year? I mean, even if I told you, you wouldn't believe it. Do you know what would happen if I suddenly decided to stop cleaning Gems? A business big enough that it could be listed on the TSE goes belly up. Disappears! It ceases to exist without me. No, you clearly don't know who you're talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger, Mami. I am the danger. A girl opens her door and gets shot in the Gem, and you think that of me? No. I am the one who knocks!"
 
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It's still not a good idea to involve regular civilians into matters involving magic if we don't have to. You saw how Madoka and Sayaka took it when we told them about the lichbomb, and we are going to have to repeat that to anyone who learns about Kyubey to turn them off the idea of contracting, because you can bet he'll contract anyone who asks, even if their potential is shit.

Do you seriously think Kyubey isn't going to target Hitomi now that Mado/Saya's been lichbombed? Especially with how badly Sayaka feels indebted to her right now?
 
Do you seriously think Kyubey isn't going to target Hitomi now that Mado/Saya's been lichbombed? Especially with how badly Sayaka feels indebted to her right now?
I'm actually curious about that. He never actively targeted Hitomi, despite the perfect chance he had after the death of Sayaka. There's probably something we are missing here, because that doesn't quite match up to what we know of him and his MO,
 
I'm actually curious about that. He never actively targeted Hitomi, despite the perfect chance he had after the death of Sayaka. There's probably something we are missing here, because that doesn't quite match up to what we know of him and his MO,
After the death of Sayaka, Kyubey quite specifically wanted Homura to be alone, so as to force Madoka to contract to defeat Wally. Contracting Hitomi would have been counterproductive.
 
After the death of Sayaka, Kyubey quite specifically wanted Homura to be alone, so as to force Madoka to contract to defeat Wally. Contracting Hitomi would have been counterproductive.
Frankly, it wouldn't have mattered even if Kyubey had contracted Hitomi. Her potential isn't strong enough to allow her to contribute tremendously to the Walpurgisnacht, and having two friends in danger rather than only one friend would've placed additional pressure on Madoka to contract. Still seems kinda odd to me.
 
Sayaka is usually more than enough to get Madoka to contract anyway. Kyubey probably didn't feel the need to bother with Hitomi at that point.
 
Frankly, it wouldn't have mattered even if Kyubey had contracted Hitomi. Her potential isn't strong enough to allow her to contribute tremendously to the Walpurgisnacht, and having two friends in danger rather than only one friend would've placed additional pressure on Madoka to contract. Still seems kinda odd to me.
Not really- everyone she knew and cared about- Hitomi included- would have been dead meat had Homura failed. Also, at the end of Ep. 9, he openly states that as his logic when Homura asks him why he tricked Kyoko:

"Naturally, I would have stopped her had her death been needless. But getting her out of the picture served a very important purpose. Becuase now, there is no one left but you to battle Walpurgisnacht. And of course, you stand no chance of beating her alone. In order to protect this city, there is no choice but for Madoka to become a magical girl."

He wanted Homura to stand alone, for maximum Madoka worrying.
 
I feel like it's worth asking how everyone is judging "potential". Let's not get into a discussion where people have wildly differing ideas of how to define and judge a contractee's potential.
 
The only reference I have on that right now is from a statement saying that the density that Sabrina feels from the small cores of grief in normal humans is what corresponds to their potential. Larger grief center = more potential.
 
Since we can control grief (due to our wish) and magic (due to being a meguca), what are the odds that we have the ability to offer contracts to people? I'm not saying it's a good idea, necessarily, but we could probably offer better rates than Kyuubey does.
 
I feel like it's worth asking how everyone is judging "potential". Let's not get into a discussion where people have wildly differing ideas of how to define and judge a contractee's potential.
Well, the only way to judge potential is to see if Kyubey is actively getting the girl to contract. Since Kyubey isn't actively trying to get Hitomi to contract, despite multiple chances for him to do so, I think I can hazard a guess that Hitomi's potential is most likely below Sayaka's. It's not an ironclad metric by any stretch of the imagination, but it's the only one we've got.

Since we can control grief (due to our wish) and magic (due to being a meguca), what are the odds that we have the ability to offer contracts to people? I'm not saying it's a good idea, necessarily, but we could probably offer better rates than Kyuubey does.
Pretty sure that's not how contracting works, boone.
 
Well, the only way to judge potential is to see if Kyubey is actively getting the girl to contract. Since Kyubey isn't actively trying to get Hitomi to contract, despite multiple chances for him to do so, I think I can hazard a guess that Hitomi's potential is most likely below Sayaka's. It's not an ironclad metric by any stretch of the imagination, but it's the only one we've got.
Wouldn't explain Nagisa.
 
Kyuubey knows better than to fuck wth Hitomi. Her tummy punches are devastating.

On a more serious note:
I don't think Hitomi would be particulary interested in contracting. Out of all the canon girls, she is by far the most normal and stable one.
Unless Sayaka dies or something equally horrifying happens I don't think she's likely to contract, even if Kyuubey approaches her. We can include her in our circle of friends, but I see no reason to inform her about the whole magical girl stuff, at least for now.

That reminds me in the PSP game there is one route, where Hitomi fawns over Homura and admires her. I wonder if that is also something that happened in a loop, like the Kyousuke thing.
 
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Wouldn't explain Nagisa.
Now that one is a special circumstance, because by all rights, she should have been nearly witching out by the time we got to her.
How would it not? The only reason she wasn't contracted in this timeline is because Oriko distracted Kyubey with Yuma, otherwise she would've been contracted and witched out long before we met her.
Has that been given as the reason she wasn't contracted? I thought we were still in the dark as to why in the hell she was un-contracted.
 
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