I hate to keep adding to an already expanding vote, but all the points I raised earlier about basic courtesies when visiting Oriko applies. Check with her beforehand, arrange times according to her schedule, ask if there's anything she needs/wants is to bring. While we certainly can just drop by, I'd rather make an effort to be polite.
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Fair enough, but doesn't the current vote cover that well enough with the intent?
Muramasa
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Technically, if she's honoring the house arrest, she shouldn't have a schedule. The rest of the suggestions good though.
This seem more workable?
[] Check in on Oriko. We were going to come visit. Did she need us to bring anything?
[] When visiting:
-[] Standard grief cleanses.
-[] Thank her for her help yesterday. Mention Kirika's awesomeness.
-[] Apologize for threatening to grief Kirika's soul gem.
-[] Ask for anything noteworthy in her visions.
-[] Consult with her on how best to approach Kyouko.
-[] We would like to try an experimental healing trick, if she'll help us make sure it's safe.
--[] Try to create a magic healing item. Apply healing to remaining Oriko injuries.
--[] If it doesn't work, provide normal healing for any remaining injuries she has that we can manage.
Gadjo
Doka
I do like that, but we should remember to tell Homura we're healing her, even if she's not allowed out of house arrest. Best not to work behind her back.
Thought it was implied, given that we're asking if we need to bring anything. Edit: Will tweak it to be explicit.
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Hmm. Possibly. It's not like we asked Homura before healing Oriko's more severe injuries last time (which took several hours for us to complete). Actually not even sure she has any remaining injuries, other than the missing arm, which we may not be able to fix without the magic healing item.
Gadjo
Doka
I suppose. But healing her minor injuries isn't the same thing as healing the injuries that keep her crippled. I want to heal her, but Homura will likely get mad if she finds out that we got Oriko back into working shape without telling her. Even if we don't lift the house arrest.
Edited with the above revision. Not going to add anything about asking Homura for permission to heal Oriko, though.
This is a personal judgement call. I think as long as we're keeping her under arrest, we're assumed to be handling all the responsibilities of dealing with the two of them (food, supplies, grief seeds, etc), so I doubt it's something Homura would expect us to consult her on. Lifting the house arrest certainly would be, though.
Homura has to be aware of the earlier healing, anyway, since she was there when we were prepping to go to war.
This is a personal judgement call. I think as long as we're keeping her under arrest, we're assumed to be handling all the responsibilities of dealing with the two of them (food, supplies, grief seeds, etc), so I doubt it's something Homura would expect us to consult her on. Lifting the house arrest certainly would be, though.
Homura has to be aware of the earlier healing, anyway, since she was there when we were prepping to go to war.
Muramasa
Best Girl
And when Homura says no, then what? We bull through that decision too? There's no guarantee's we can convince her of anything with Oriko. Unlike with the war, there's no immediate issue to press on, other then we want to heal her because we feel obligated to.
Well, we could try and talk her into it...but, yeah, we're better off just making it a promise to Oriko for now.
Muramasa
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Disagree. If we're not healing her now, there's no real point in going to Oriko's. And we shouldn't just ignore her and Kirika's help for yesterday, even if Homura doesn't appreciate it. IMO, healing her and taking responsibility is all around the better call.
We are going to be grateful for their help regardless, yes, but considering we still haven't gotten a good grasp on Oriko's current motivations/goals...
That's going to be an awkward conversation.
>Hey we're healing Oriko but she's still under house arrest by the honor system bye.
We're definitely going to have to point out that Oriko could have run at any time before now, I think. And we're not running it by Mami either?
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We owe Oriko in a big way, at this point. In an IC and OOC sense, I think it'd be a Good Thing to take this seriously.
And while, pragmatically, Oriko being healed doesn't drastically increase the threat she represents, if we leave the decision in Homura's hands, she's likely to veto it for the foreseeable future anyway.
So, yeah, screw it, I'm on board with healing her soon. Homura probably won't be happy when she finds out, but - so it goes.
However - might it be a good idea to alter the timing so as to give Mami the choice of helping? She's probably more amenable to building bridges than before Sendai, and might want to make up for her shadowruns earlier.
And while, pragmatically, Oriko being healed doesn't drastically increase the threat she represents, if we leave the decision in Homura's hands, she's likely to veto it for the foreseeable future anyway.
So, yeah, screw it, I'm on board with healing her soon. Homura probably won't be happy when she finds out, but - so it goes.
However - might it be a good idea to alter the timing so as to give Mami the choice of helping? She's probably more amenable to building bridges than before Sendai, and might want to make up for her shadowruns earlier.
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Gadjo
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Agreed. I guess we can heal Oriko without asking Homu, since the threat she represents isn't really physical anyway. Mami, however, should at least be made aware. She won't like it, but hopefully we can truly convince her rather than just accidentally cow her into accepting.
Hmm. I don't want to seem like we're leaving them out of the loop, but at the same time this is sort of our personal obligation. This is actually a case where it's not a matter of getting their permission, but if they object to it then we end up in the middle of an argument for which there is no good outcome.
Perhaps spin the context a bit? "I have some ideas on healing that I'm experimenting with, and if they work I'm going to go ahead and fix up Oriko's arm."
Perhaps spin the context a bit? "I have some ideas on healing that I'm experimenting with, and if they work I'm going to go ahead and fix up Oriko's arm."
Nah, spin won't help much here. Neither of them are going to fall for it, and the main risk is MamiLimpet not being happy but being too scared to call us on it?
Better to flat out say "we're healing some more of Oriko's injuries BUT they'll both still be under house arrest" and if Homu or Mami sound unhappy maybe comment that if she was going to run she'd have done so already?
Better to flat out say "we're healing some more of Oriko's injuries BUT they'll both still be under house arrest" and if Homu or Mami sound unhappy maybe comment that if she was going to run she'd have done so already?
Or just let them know after the fact? Homura should be coming over for dinner, so we can bring it up then. Then it's not a matter of getting their permission/approval to do it, but at the same time we're not hiding it, nor leaving it for them to discover who-knows-when.
Edit: Have it as part of the overall status update that we should probably be doing with the two of them.
Edit: Have it as part of the overall status update that we should probably be doing with the two of them.