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I wonder if the enchantments a MG can do vary according to their powers. If so, could we enchant items to act as grief seeds?

Also, am I late to the Mami-infestation? :rolleyes:
 
Cannongerbil said:
Dude, we managed to create a magical disintegration beam out of grief. We can most likely also create a healing rod out of grief using the same principle, that part isn't in question.. I'm worried about using grief to simulate healing magic could cause some undesirable side-effects on the part of those being healed.
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Sabrina considered that magical disintegration beam "mundane" though- I think it's more following the Witch barrier "Grief cosplaying as having specific regular properties" such as, say, Hildegard's corrosive blood.

If it works, it works, I just don't think it'll work.

TheSlayers said:
I wonder if the enchantments a MG can do vary according to their powers. If so, could we enchant items to act as grief seeds?

Also, am I late to the Mami-infestation? :rolleyes:
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Never too late to join the Mami collective.
 
Had that concrete been disintegrated 'mundanely', we wouldn't know, because Mitakihara would be a massive crater.
 
"That's not helpful" was because making it invisible while having it still be blatantly detectable due to its grief signature kinda defeats the purpose. We still made it invisible, though.
 
Ugolino said:
Grief dressed up as a disintegration beam=/=magical healing.
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Look, we made grief achieve an effect that cannot physically be replicated. This isn't like fire or gravity, the phaser beam has no basis in reality other than the fact that it existed in our minds. Using that same logic, we can theoretically make grief emit some kind of, ugh, "Healing ray" that can speed up our magical healing, or even just speed up natural healing to degrees far greater than we can achieve with our magic. I'm just not happy with us doing that because reasons.
 
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Hmm, on the creating a body idea, what about:
-Chop off your hand or arm or something.
-Attempt to make working grief prothesis. How far can we get?

Regardless of sucess, reattach regular arm afterwards.
 
Xexilf said:
Hmm, on the creating a body idea, what about:
-Chop off your hand or arm or something.
-Attempt to make working grief prothesis. How far can we get?

Regardless of sucess, reattach regular arm afterwards.
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We don't have to chop off an arm for that, just create a regular arm out of grief and test it that way. Also, why would we ever want to create a body out of grief?
 
The three votes are all pretty close. Wanted to clear up a couple specifics.

1) Are we not setting up the informal gathering today? Or if we are, do we not want to tell Homura about it right now? Mine and Ugo's have that, Gerbil's does not.

It's not that big a deal, but if we are planning to do something like that, it seemed polite to let her know. If we're not planning on that, we can remove that line from the other two votes.

2) We all contact Masami. Gerbil doesn't contact Ishinomaki. Is there a reason not to do so? And, particularly, is there a reason to continue to avoid getting that question about the meeting arrangements answered?

3) Testing the magic healing item. Mine and Gerbil's have that, Ugo does not. Discussion on that ongoing.
 
Actually, testing if we can make grief limbs is a good idea. That way, we won't be defenceless if Firn decides to go Moid on us. That said, there's probably a better way of testing this than multilating ourselves.
 
Kinematics said:
The three votes are all pretty close. Wanted to clear up a couple specifics.

1) Are we not setting up the informal gathering today? Or if we are, do we not want to tell Homura about it right now? Mine and Ugo's have that, Gerbil's does not.

It's not that big a deal, but if we are planning to do something like that, it seemed polite to let her know. If we're not planning on that, we can remove that line from the other two votes.

2) We all contact Masami. Gerbil doesn't contact Ishinomaki. Is there a reason not to do so? And, particularly, is there a reason to continue to avoid getting that question about the meeting arrangements answered?

3) Testing the magic healing item. Mine and Gerbil's have that, Ugo does not. Discussion on that ongoing.
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It's yours from a few edits back, actually, I just felt it covered everything that needed to be covered.

There isn't really any reason not to do 2) other than being sick of the Sendai arc.

The magic healing item is probably a harmless waste of time; I feel about it the same way Gerbil does about Ishinomaki contact.
 
Cruadin said:
Actually, testing if we can make grief limbs is a good idea. That way, we won't be defenceless if Firn decides to go Moid on us. That said, there's probably a better way of testing this than multilating ourselves.
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Don't try to make replacement limbs, but extra limbs. If we lose an arm, we can make an extra arm that just happens to work as a replacement arm.
 
Kinematics said:
The three votes are all pretty close. Wanted to clear up a couple specifics.

1) Are we not setting up the informal gathering today? Or if we are, do we not want to tell Homura about it right now? Mine and Ugo's have that, Gerbil's does not.

It's not that big a deal, but if we are planning to do something like that, it seemed polite to let her know. If we're not planning on that, we can remove that line from the other two votes.

2) We all contact Masami. Gerbil doesn't contact Ishinomaki. Is there a reason not to do so? And, particularly, is there a reason to continue to avoid getting that question about the meeting arrangements answered?

3) Testing the magic healing item. Mine and Gerbil's have that, Ugo does not. Discussion on that ongoing.
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1. I'm not sure. Doing so to relax isn't a bad idea, but we also have a lichbomb discussion to get over with and also a more thorough apology to Mami.

2. I have much less of a problem contacting Ishinomaki, then I do with Sendai. However, even if Kyubey had a hand in it, I don't see much of a point with finding out when the arrangement was made though.
 
Muramasa said:
1. I'm not sure. Doing so to relax isn't a bad idea, but we also have a lichbomb discussion to get over with and also a more thorough apology to Mami.

2. I have much less of a problem contacting Ishinomaki, then I do with Sendai. However, even if Kyubey had a hand in it. I don't see much of a point with finding out when the arrangement was made though.
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They'll probably need said tea party after the lichbomb, and the apology's always going to be with just Sabrina and Mami there.
 
Ugolino said:
Yeah, the big issue with what we're trying is that I suspect the Witches are still using their Puella Magi's specialized magic for their personalized magic. What's a bit annoying and a separate problem is that we can't replicate the reality marble/barrier effect that's universal for Witches yet.



Either it isn't possible, or we're looking at it the wrong way. Maybe we need to try using more Grief as a starting point?
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I think the answer is right there in what you quoted. We tried to manipulate the "space inside the tube".

That isn't grief.


Distinction between types of properties is at best inexistant and at worst purely mental. Fire that isn't extinguished. An object that exerted 'gravity' but wasn't pulled to the Earth. Did we give that grief appropriate mass to its pull? 'Gravity' was just as magic as everything else.
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
I think the answer is right there in what you quoted. We tried to manipulate the "space inside the tube".

That isn't grief.
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We could create space, instead? Instead of making a hollow tube of grief, make solid tube of grief and will the grief inside to become 'space'.

Heh, maybe we can't create a Barrier, because we already have one, and that's our 100m range.
 
Muramasa said:
2. I have much less of a problem contacting Ishinomaki, then I do with Sendai. However, even if Kyubey had a hand in it, I don't see much of a point with finding out when the arrangement was made though.
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It's to find out whether the situations surrounding the events were coincidental, or whether Kyuubey is specifically and actively manipulating things to test us. If Kyuubey is actively working against us (or rather, manipulating things to make our life miserable), we need to incorporate counter-contingencies into our plans. If it was just coincidence, we can progress with less worry about blades aimed at our back.
 
Kinematics said:
1) Are we not setting up the informal gathering today? Or if we are, do we not want to tell Homura about it right now? Mine and Ugo's have that, Gerbil's does not.

It's not that big a deal, but if we are planning to do something like that, it seemed polite to let her know. If we're not planning on that, we can remove that line from the other two votes.
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Yeah, but not today. I'm not entirely sure it's possible to have an outing today, unless you want to settle for a tea party at Mami's, in which case we should let her make the proposal, not us. Well, maybe we could nudge Mami abit into proposing that, but still.

Kinematics said:
2) We all contact Masami. Gerbil doesn't contact Ishinomaki. Is there a reason not to do so? And, particularly, is there a reason to continue to avoid getting that question about the meeting arrangements answered?
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I don't have a strong objection to updating Ishinomaki, but I don't see the reasoning behind asking them about the meeting arrangements. I'll add it into my vote.
 
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