@Gadjo: Homura goes to school, so we can't very well visit her.

We're seeking out a witch to conduct science; for example to see if we can dump our excess grief into the barrier as it collapses, or if the Hildegirl is because of magic prodding.

As for visiting Oriko: I want to do that. I also want to have a tea party at Oriko's later to discuss Sendai events.

There is also the fact that we want to let Oriko free, which should be discussed with Homura and Mami both. Though if we want to let her go immediately we should telepathy her it.
 
@Gadjo: Homura goes to school, so we can't very well visit her.

We're seeking out a witch to conduct science; for example to see if we can dump our excess grief into the barrier as it collapses, or if the Hildegirl is because of magic prodding.

As for visiting Oriko: I want to do that. I also want to have a tea party at Oriko's later to discuss Sendai events.

There is also the fact that we want to let Oriko free, which should be discussed with Homura and Mami both.
That was what I meant about talking to Homura, but I suppose such a discussion should be done in person. If that's the case, then I say we either take a road trip to Kasamino or start playing with the grief seeds. Thoughts?
 
@Gadjo: Homura goes to school, so we can't very well visit her.

We're seeking out a witch to conduct science; for example to see if we can dump our excess grief into the barrier as it collapses, or if the Hildegirl is because of magic prodding.

As for visiting Oriko: I want to do that. I also want to have a tea party at Oriko's later to discuss Sendai events.

There is also the fact that we want to let Oriko free, which should be discussed with Homura and Mami both. Though if we want to let her go immediately we should telepathy her it.
All of that should come before hunting another witch. Hildegard science is best done directly without the added risk/unknown factor. Kyubey can eat our excess grief.
 
@Ugolino:
Hm, it appears that multiple people mistake "seek out a witch" as hunting ><. Guess I should put "for science" after it.

That aside, Mami is a workalcoholic/student in Japan in general.

if she does not go to school, it's because of "can't study Sabrina will leave me".

Now, I don't think we'd reject her wishing to stay with Sabrina on her own initiative, as much as it hurts the "Mami making friends" plan, but let's at least not offer it straight off?

E: We need a control group to Hildegirl to see if it is emptying seed or poking with magic that broke the grief seed.
 
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Where we went wrong was with methods and motives. And we didn't communicate that well at all. That we cared so much about the result that we don't care, or to be more accurate, don't think about how it was achieved. And that we want that to change, because it will mean we stop imposing ourselves on everyone we know without taking away the caring part.
Huh, that's interesting, because we actually did make an effort to discuss things before implementing them. We just did it amongst ourselves instead of doing it IC with any of the NPC characters, partially due to the timelag in responses, partially due to the shift away from long votes, and partially due to being so sick and tired of arguing amongst ourselves that we really don't want to put in more chances for argument if we can help it.
 
That was what I meant about talking to Homura, but I suppose such a discussion should be done in person. If that's the case, then I say we either take a road trip to Kasamino or start playing with the grief seeds. Thoughts?
Went with science because I wasn't sure whether Yuma or/and Kyoko had day schedules, so as to be sure they're free in the evening. Don't really have an opinion on which to do first though if that's not a problem.
 
@Ugolino:
Hm, it appears that multiple people mistake "seek out a witch" as hunting ><. Guess I should put "for science" after it.

That aside, Mami is a workalcoholic/student in Japan in general.

if she does not go to school, it's because of "can't study Sabrina will leave me".

Now, I don't think we'd reject her wishing to stay with Sabrina on her own initiative, as much as it hurts the "Mami making friends" plan, but let's at least not offer it straight off?

E: We need a control group to Hildegirl to see if it is emptying seed or poking with magic that broke the grief seed.
No, it'll be because she doesn't feel able to go to school, just like the last time. And if we don't ask, we risk her going because she feels compelled to. Bring it up, and make sure she's okay if you really want her to possibly go to school.

We don't need a control group yet. One broken seed at a time.
 
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@Ugolino: She decided it on her own initiative last time, so I'd rather not bring it up, given that she already skipped once. Skipping school is no small deal. Also, remember, from her PoV she got off averting a potential war with Sabrina.

That said, phrasing is too assured for that possibility, changing on that front. (Even if Mami ditching her other relationships more isn't really a good thing which I really want to avoid if I set a goal to fix Mami.)

And then I can only appeal to sticking it to the coobs and saving potential lives that'd be eaten front. Mostly the first, really.

However, your vote doesn't include it - where do you want to go for science with a free half-day?
 
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@Ugolino: She decided it on her own initiative last time, so I'd rather not bring it up, given that she already skipped once. Skipping school is no small deal. Also, remember, from her PoV she got off averting a potential war with Sabrina.

That said, phrasing is too assured for that possibility, changing on that front.

And then I can only appeal to sticking it to the coobs and saving potential lives that'd be eaten front. Mostly the first, really.

However, your vote doesn't include it - where do you want to go for science with a free half-day?
I don't quite understand what your second to last line is saying. Witch hunting is a thing we've been doing, yeah. It's just not what we should do first thing instead of the vital science we've been putting off for months.

First we talk with Mami, then we find a quiet alleyway or a park or something and fiddle with Hildegard. The specific location isn't that important as long as it's deserted.
 
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We know that'd just fill up the seed though. Grief marbles going to QB is...safe, harmless disposal and we have no real reason not to do it...
 
Gonna put in an ordering of the list of things I'd like to do, in general:

  • Check on Mami's status, and whether she's going to school.
  • If we have sufficient time (either she's not going to school, or we've got like an hour before she leaves), talk with her about withholding additional secrets.
  • Check in on various people (Homura, Kyouko, Masami, the various war factions).
  • Visit Oriko for a personal apology about our threatening Kirika. This is entirely personal. We expect to handle healing and release of house arrest later, but with the consent of Mami and Homura (ie: paying attention to their opinions rather than taking unilateral action).
  • SCIENCE. If Mami skipped school, she can join us. [1] Relieve the stress of the previous day.
  • Arrange for a general gathering of friends later today.

[1] Ironically, a witchbombed Mami would be really helpful here, as she's proven to be far more capable of detecting the finer details of magical effects than we are, and could probably give us a lot of info about the state of the grief seed, and ideas on the potential to reverse the process.
 
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Gonna put in an ordering of the list of things I'd like to do, in general:

  • Check on Mami's status, and whether she's going to school.
  • If we have sufficient time (either she's not going to school, or we've got like an hour before she leaves), talk with her about withholding additional secrets.
  • Check in on various people (Homura, Kyouko, Masami, the various war factions).
  • Visit Oriko for a personal apology about our threatening Kirika. This is entirely personal. We expect to handle healing and release of house arrest later, but with the consent of Mami and Homura.
  • SCIENCE. If Mami skipped school, she can join us.
  • Relive the stress of the previous day.
  • Arrange for a general gathering of friends later today.

[*] Ironically, a witchbombed Mami would be really helpful here, as she's proven to be far more capable of detecting the finer details of magical effects than we are, and could probably give us a lot of info about the state of the grief seed, and ideas on the potential to reverse the process.
I'm not sure we want to do SCIENCE with Mami...or did you mean training with magic enchantments? Wasn't asking her/Kyoko to tutor us also going to be a thing at one point?
 
Want to check, since our grief wings disappear without issues :p If it doesn't work, off to QB probably it is - it would have been useful, but not really comfortable to carry around large bags everywhere, even in marble form.

...Wait.

I just had a thought.

Are we carrying around 2 seeds worth....Or five seeds worth?

Because if the latter, we handed the Fukushima group cleared seeds. Puella magic use doesn't generate a lot of grief compared to witches after all.
 
Let's just be happy we resolved this whole mess, yeah? Nobody died, we stopped a war, and pretty much everyone came out better for it, barring Akiko. (She needed to have her issues dealt with anyways.)
 
If we're doing science today, there are 2 things we need to do before we get going with Hildy:

1. Make and wear a ring of Grief.
2. Try to transmute Grief into fire or some sort of energy.

It'd take less than a minute and get them out of the way before we do something that gets us punched in the soul (again) and/or interrupted by bunnycat.
 
I want to get Homura in on grief science, especially when it comes to grief seed / soul gem experiments. I don't really want to hold it past today or tomorrow either, because I think everyone agrees that figuring out how to restore witches, if it is possible, is by far our number one priority science-wise.

I'm ok with doing other science while she's at school, though, I just want to put it out there that we should bring her in. There's literally no reason not to.
 
Don't see the point of this, especially since it's been well-established that solid Grief is noncorrosive.
Dude, I've been arguing for it's safety forever. This is just to prove once and for all that it's fine so we never have to hear about it again.
EDIT: Oh my god. OK. Oriko & Kirika. O & K. Can we call Oriko and Kirika "OK"?
This is a fantastic idea.
I'm not sure we want to do SCIENCE with Mami...or did you mean training with magic enchantments? Wasn't asking her/Kyoko to tutor us also going to be a thing at one point?
The only science we don't want Mami around for is Witch stuff. She'd be a huge help with practically anything else.
 
  • Check in on various people (Homura, Kyouko, Masami, the various war factions).
  • Visit Oriko for a personal apology about our threatening Kirika. This is entirely personal. We expect to handle healing and release of house arrest later, but with the consent of Mami and Homura (ie: paying attention to their opinions rather than taking unilateral action).
  • SCIENCE. If Mami skipped school, she can join us. [1] Relieve the stress of the previous day.
  • Arrange for a general gathering of friends later today.
Not a bad idea, with telepathy.

Mixed feelings. Ideally, we'd release them at once. However, works really well with last one. Leaning towards doing this now, but waiting a bit before editing as either way has about equal benefit.

Kyubeyphone is lovely. Where would we be without him, using regular phones? Oh..right, not existing.

Depends on the SCIENCE and what we are doing. Can wait until next update to determine this if Mami limpet attaches even more firmly.

@SWB: Even without Homura I'd say it remains 1# priority, due "here's how far I am" and due Homura not experimenting with it herself significantly (what's with her thoughts on witchbomb), I believe.
 
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