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Dirtnap
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What about the post-action large problem?
We probably need to talk to Akiko to hopefully fix that. I'm with Kinematics.
Unawares, whether they're like Rin and able to take it(we had 0 problems with lichbomb here), or Mami and unusually fragile, being witchbombed would be bad, but with Sabrina here nobody is going die from it immediately. However, with 2 hands we can only hold so many limpets. (I picture a pimp Sabrina here, really.)
At that point, it is a mad science question: Is it worth to risk these lives(limpets) now so we can do more faster? After all, if you can save 2 cities instead Walpurgisnatch can be ignored.
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We probably need to talk to Akiko to hopefully fix that. I'm with Kinematics.
Unawares, whether they're like Rin and able to take it(we had 0 problems with lichbomb here), or Mami and unusually fragile, being witchbombed would be bad, but with Sabrina here nobody is going die from it immediately. However, with 2 hands we can only hold so many limpets. (I picture a pimp Sabrina here, really.)
At that point, it is a mad science question: Is it worth to risk these lives(limpets) now so we can do more faster? After all, if you can save 2 cities instead Walpurgisnatch can be ignored.
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I don't understand.
AnonymousRabbit
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*incubatorintensifies*
Gadjo
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Are you asking if it's worth it to witchbomb everyone here? Because if that's the case then I believe I speak for most of the thread when I say no.
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@AnonymousRabbit: No, I really don't.
Honestly, my reading of Akiko is that she wants revenge on Ishinomaki above all else, to the point of self-harm and team-harm; I bet she'd abandon Sendai and try to assassinate them if we leave now. This may also be related to the above-mentioned events. (Have to consider consequences beyond the curiosity.)
Not quite. I'm saying that while it would be bad, it wouldn't be as bad as post-action catastrophe where it occurs without our presence. However, we have to consider whether having, say, Mami hanging on to us even more is bad enough to let mini-Walpurgisnatch happen in Sendai.
Honestly, my reading of Akiko is that she wants revenge on Ishinomaki above all else, to the point of self-harm and team-harm; I bet she'd abandon Sendai and try to assassinate them if we leave now. This may also be related to the above-mentioned events. (Have to consider consequences beyond the curiosity.)
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I can agree that the witchbomb probably wouldn't be the utter clusterfuck everyone says it is, but that's a consideration for if it happens on accident. Its benefits right now would outweigh the drawbacks.
1. Witchbombing anyone will be an unmitigated disaster regardless of our presence. The idea of doing it intentionally and somehow expecting word not to spread or for something good to come out of it is pretty much self-delusion.
2. Under no circumstances short of Mami, Homura, or Madoka dying should we even consider letting things deteriorate in Sendai to the point you're talking about, Lement.
2. Under no circumstances short of Mami, Homura, or Madoka dying should we even consider letting things deteriorate in Sendai to the point you're talking about, Lement.
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Indeed, I don't think anybody wants to use megaphone to WB everyone.
@Ugolino: Well, they will. Going to Sendai isn't a free action.
Also, I bet Akiko, if she is aware, can and will use it as weapon. This is mitigated by how everyone isn't made of glass, like Mami -even comparatively soft Rin handed lich quite well. Thus, we better prevent this by nulling Akiko's issues.
Re:Word spreading, it hasn't spread so far. Not something that is talked without a reason, which there would be for Akiko.
Re: "unmitigated disaster": No. It will be unmitigated if we don't mitigate Akiko.
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Sorry? How did you get to this conclusion?
But that's exactly what even a targeted witchbomb will do. We can't know that anyone in Fukushima except maybe Akiko can keep their mouths shut. We have no idea just what their reactions will be other than "not good"- and any perceived benefit is vastly outweighed by the fact that the witchbomb is a mind-shatteringly awful revelation. Homura pretty much lost it- and was HOMURA of all people. Kyouko was effectively driven to suicide once she understood the full implications and Mami went full Tetris/suicidal.
Are we really going to gamble with the lives of the whole Sendai group on one of them taking that news well and not reacting badly in any way, shape, or form?
The Witchbomb is bad news and spreading it to anyone who doesn't know about it is actively sabotaging the quest goal of a good end.
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2 cities>1 city.
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Let me get this straight, you stance is that if we can save two cities,we can totally ignore Mitakihara and how Walpurgisnacht will utterly flatten it, potentially triggering a Madoka contract?
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I don't really agree. The witchbomb is valuable information, and a controlled bomb is better than finding out by accident. This, however, is not really the time to discuss it, since it's already been agreed several times that now is not the time.
I don't think she'd do that, and I think even Sakura would find doing it maliciously to be too much. She'd lose her friend's trust.
I think (hope) he's joking.
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I'm afraid that your hopes may be dashed.
Gadjo
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Again, I'm just gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's joking. Otherwise, it really isn't even worth debating.
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@Ugolino: They did keep their mouths shut on lichbomb. Why would there be a certainity that they'd scream it from the rooftops?
And we can ask Akiko/Yumi to keep it mum.
Mami is awful example due being so damn fragile. Kyoko was driven there by Kyubey.
Besides, on the flip side we have Akiko keeping on with the crusade, damn the consequences. And she is willing to use any weapon right now - or she might witchbomb by witching out in desperation. Averting the post-action is prime reason why we came here after all.
@Cannongerbil: You're taking me out of context.
We'd want to save as many people as we can. This "Greater Good" probably requires that we pick saving most people - as such, deciding to save 2 cities over saving just one beats the situation.
Obviously there are some concerns re:Madoka, but I think you can udnerstand the sentiment of "can't save everyone".
@Gadjo: Well, if she's driven desperate without her team, she wouldn't have to worry about them anymore.
And we can ask Akiko/Yumi to keep it mum.
Mami is awful example due being so damn fragile. Kyoko was driven there by Kyubey.
Besides, on the flip side we have Akiko keeping on with the crusade, damn the consequences. And she is willing to use any weapon right now - or she might witchbomb by witching out in desperation. Averting the post-action is prime reason why we came here after all.
@Cannongerbil: You're taking me out of context.
We'd want to save as many people as we can. This "Greater Good" probably requires that we pick saving most people - as such, deciding to save 2 cities over saving just one beats the situation.
Obviously there are some concerns re:Madoka, but I think you can udnerstand the sentiment of "can't save everyone".
@Gadjo: Well, if she's driven desperate without her team, she wouldn't have to worry about them anymore.
Within their group? I have my doubts. Akiko is not reliable, we don't KNOW Yumi well enough to make this at all a good risk, and...that seems like a misreading of Akiko.
Also, re:cities...no.
Dirtnap
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Madoka contract leads to Krimheld Gretchen unless its her canon wish, guy. So no keeping her un-contracted is the best thing we can do. Aka it is the greater good.
it hasn't even been two pages since we agreed to drop this subject
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