The problem would be us actively spawning new witches and leaving existing witches alive to spawn new threats. There's a definite moral issue with this.
Why? The end result of this line of thinking isn't that, it's getting multiple grief seeds from a single witch fight.

We would basically be recreating the GTA 5 glitch that used to let you play the same mission over and over until you decided to stop.
 
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heer is ideeah
stub talkin boot aura's mediocre taste in wafers nd chek wit bucket aboot assnaro
then maek stratergee
till then pls stob talkin boot it
muh brains r leaking out muh ears
 
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heer is ideeah
stub talkin boot aura's mediocre taste in wafers nd chek wit bucket aboot assnaro
then maek stratergee
till then pls stob talkin boot it
muh brains r leaking out muh ears
I don't know why we're even still arguing about it. Later, guys. We do it later. We have important shit to do and we have no idea what kind of timeline we're working off of with Asunaro. We need a day or two off to perform grief science, psychology Mami, make sure Sayaka doesn't contract, and build bridges with Kyoko. Going into Asunaro right now would be biting off more than we could chew.
 
To bring us back to a more serious topic

Chouko exchanges a look with Yuko, and the Suzuki sisters. The Sendai girls seem to consider this, too, likely communicating via telepathy. Rin folds her arms in front of her, her usually soft face set hard as she frowns at Yumi.

Mami squeezes your hand lightly. "Sabrina..." she says, voice soft. "I think you're overwhelming them."

"I want this to work, Mami," you reply. "I want to help them."

Mami smiles softly at you. "I know. Just... try not to push them too hard? I'm sure you know what you're doing, though."

"I hope so too," you say drily.

Reading between the lines here, Mami not just saying that we're asking too many questions or that we're asking a lot of them suddenly, but that we're pressing our own angle at the expense of, or without really considering, any other. She's just being very tactful about it. I think that she has a very good point, and we did resolve to listen to her more. Re-reading the update, despite any precautions we took in the vote, we pushed our cleansing system through and only asked permission as an afterthought at the end. That has everything to do with the attitude we take in presenting the votes and what kind of implications can be read into the phrasing of the votes themselves, so please be careful on this in the future.
 
I advocate atleast asking Oriko about what's going on in Asurano so we know how much time we have before the Subquest Expires(tm).
 
Reading between the lines here, Mami not just saying that we're asking too many questions or that we're asking a lot of them suddenly, but that we're pressing our own angle at the expense of, or without really considering, any other. She's just being very tactful about it. I think that she has a very good point, and we did resolve to listen to her more. Re-reading the update, despite any precautions we took in the vote, we pushed our cleansing system through and only asked permission as an afterthought at the end. That has everything to do with the attitude we take in presenting the votes and what kind of implications can be read into the phrasing of the votes themselves, so please be careful on this in the future.
That's part of why I didn't want to immediately push for reviving Fukushima and getting right into another negotiation situation. We're being too pushy already; give a bit of time to cool off before trying the next thing on the agenda.
 
Generally speaking, I'll only bother voting if things are close. Don't see the point in just +1'ing a bandwagon.
Pretty much this. Unless it's close or I see something I think is really not okay about to happen, I usually don't bother.
That has everything to do with the attitude we take in presenting the votes and what kind of implications can be read into the phrasing of the votes themselves, so please be careful on this in the future.
How do you suggest we do that?
Actual question because I don't know how to do that.
 
I advocate atleast asking Oriko about what's going on in Asurano so we know how much time we have before the Subquest Expires(tm).

Unless it somehow becomes relevant to Mitakihara, I'm going to disagree.

There are limits to how far we (Sabrina) can extend ourselves. More time out of Mitakihara is more time out of Mitakihara and we know shit is going to go down here and we do need to be present when it goes down. That's why we're here.

I know our intent is 'to help everyone' but our reach is a good deal more limited then that.
 
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Not disagreeing with that sentiment entirely, but...

If that's the case, why did we fly out to deal with all this?

Part because the war would have eventually spread into Mitakihara, only if we waited, the conflict could very well have escalated beyond our control. Part because we could reasonably extend our reach to these cities and part because SV in generally does not like character deaths.

edit: Also what Synch said.
 
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Pretty much this. Unless it's close or I see something I think is really not okay about to happen, I usually don't bother.

How do you suggest we do that?
Actual question because I don't know how to do that.


Man, I don't know. Like, this was last update's winner:

[] Apologize politely and offer a brief explanation of your different views on grief. They are always welcome to offer corrections if you make mistakes like that.
[] Sabrina's proposal to help stabilize things (as brought up previously) was to have her provide a grief seed cleansing service. Full seeds seem to be problematic, so perhaps only use seeds enough to fill them halfway, instead?
[] In order to determine how workable that is, we'd need information from them:
-[] A cleansing interval schedule that they're comfortable with.
-[] For said interval, average grief seed usage for each team.
-[] Define a target number of grief seeds per team equal to three times the above usage rate, to account for only using half seeds, as well as providing a buffer.
-[] Ask Sendai if they are willing to contribute the required number that UG would need for this system, based on Rin's offer. Anything beyond making sure that each team has enough for this project isn't our business.
[] Since the seeds are only being filled halfway, each group's entire stock still acts as an emergency stockpile, and they can request a special cleansing service if they end up with seeds that are in the 1-day countdown period.
[] We could also try to empty grief seeds a bit more, but are still working on making sure doing so is safe.
[] Ask if anyone else has any preferred ideas for dealing with the current issues.

This is actually pretty good, but it's the middle section that I've highlighted that's problematic if anything at all. Like, I think if the plan had been determined workable with half-seeds, we could have asked for other ideas, and then worked through each with a quick evaluation of their viability, then followed up with asking both groups which they'd prefer, then hashing out the details of the more-preferred ones.

Hindsight is of course, 20/20, but having a long discussion every few minutes means Sabrina and the thread go straight from information to plans to execution, while other people need time to think or consider.

There have been really sledgehammer-pushy votes in the past, though. I think we do less of them now, but Sabrina seems to have picked up that attitude.

Not disagreeing with that sentiment entirely, but...

If that's the case, why did we fly out to deal with all this?

No one has brought it up recently, but back when the crisis reared its head, we technically set this chain of events in motion through our careless actions earlier. That, plus Oriko saw a massive-scale disaster after the war. I think had we not been able to trace the causes back to our actions (not saying we were responsible, mind you), nor had Oriko predicted a WPGN-scale event, we might not be here right now. Or there might have been more debate about it.
 
Eh, not really? It came in rather handy when we fought Kirika. Sakura is a two year veteran and a melee specialist. Her winning out in that clash was a fair outcome.
We lost a melee clash with Ishinomaki too IIRC.

Still funny that we keep being the only member of our group to sustain noticeable injuries.
 
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