- Location
- Hell
You need to add [Secondary] to those votes.
Corruption. That's the econ our governors are pocketing.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Panama City
You sure?
Actually, if you look at the description for more boats, it's likely the kick back for that.
- Location
- Canada
We really need more martial. We've sacrificed it for literally every thing else. It's time to man up and cut the check. If we don't pay now we will later in painful ways.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
why are you bothering with these? Going to 0 won't hurt us and enforcing authority is, well... crude. Especially since our hero is low martial.
@highs2lows Yeah we eventually need more martial but there are more important things, and we'll know when we need more martial by if we send a trade mission to the HK so that we can learn wtf is going on down there. Bombing a martial run provides no near-term benefit, leaving us treading water for all that we're better prepared against a raid that might come 2+ turns from now.
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Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
It's from the Boats and the Metal Miners trade. We are getting +1 Econ and +1 Diplo this turn.
Note that if we keep our diplo high our chiefs may use it for projects which would mean, trade missions I guess? It seems the most likely we are going to get for awhile.
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA, United States
I don't know about Enforce Authority or other options like it - Twythulmyn has a pretty low Martial skill. I'd rather him leave epic legacy of being a awesome diplomat than have him stir up shit.
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Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
[X] [Secondary] Expand Trails
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
We have 4/4 econ for the main action so why would it cost any?
@Academia Nut Will the megaproject still consume Econ? What do the +1's for the stat page mean? Will hitting 0 for mysticism have a negative effect?
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
But we can *see* the costs of our megaproject, and we've already fulfilled the econ requirements, and it doesn't say "-1 econ per action" like the other megaproject actions. I'd like confirmation from @Academia Nut , but my reading of things is that it'll only cost us 1 mysticism
- Location
- Panama City
@Academia Nut A couple questions:
1)Does Expand Economy really have no extra effect when mained?
2)What does the +1 next to economy and diplomacy mean? Is this from boats?
3)Does our megaproject consume econ this turn, or only mysticism?
4)is Scourge Warding likely to pay out with mysticism?
1)Does Expand Economy really have no extra effect when mained?
2)What does the +1 next to economy and diplomacy mean? Is this from boats?
3)Does our megaproject consume econ this turn, or only mysticism?
4)is Scourge Warding likely to pay out with mysticism?
- Location
- Hell
Noo?
It gives us Martial as well.Sacred Warriors - The Blackbirds have proven effective scouts, spies, and killers, but are there other ways to combine the knowledge of spirits with the skills of a warrior?({S}: -2 Mysticism, gain new type of elite spiritual warrior; [M]: -2 Mysticism, +1 Martial, gain new type of elite spiritual warrior)
({S}: -2 Mysticism, gain new type of elite spiritual warrior; [M]: -2 Mysticism, +1 Martial, gain new type of elite spiritual warrior)
I'd like to think it more as those have normal chances of success and that main boosts it instead. More optimistic outlook if you will
Now that you mention it, it could be Econ that we get guarantee at the end of the turn...
So safety nets for those particular stats then. Okay I understand now.
Don't forget that it requires our villages to be walled and since only 2/7 are walled...
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Gunboat diplomacy is still diplomacy.
Of course we can also set off a hostile stand off between upper and lower level of government.
- Location
- Panama City
You have that backwards, it's the more settlements that have walls, the less effective it is, since walls can make armies seem less threatening.
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- Location
- Australia
[X] [Secondary] New Trails
[X] [Secondary] Trade Mission - Thunder Horses
We should make use of our hero's Heroic Diplomacy. It's why we voted for him, after all. Sending him to the Thunder Horses can increase the turns we're at peace with them by up to 3 turns, which is something we really want to do. We don't want to have our Secondary locked up by their raids and it'll be hard to make peace with them once they start their raids, so it's imperative we get this trade mission done early.
Expand Trails because we have a whole lot of Hierarchy and only 3 Centralisation. We must get a hold of the corruption before it develops into a major problem.
[X] [Secondary] Trade Mission - Thunder Horses
We should make use of our hero's Heroic Diplomacy. It's why we voted for him, after all. Sending him to the Thunder Horses can increase the turns we're at peace with them by up to 3 turns, which is something we really want to do. We don't want to have our Secondary locked up by their raids and it'll be hard to make peace with them once they start their raids, so it's imperative we get this trade mission done early.
Expand Trails because we have a whole lot of Hierarchy and only 3 Centralisation. We must get a hold of the corruption before it develops into a major problem.
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UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Our warriors and shamans would study the art of neighboring peoples, and use that to figure out their psychology and gain an advantage.
- Location
- United States
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Authority
[X] [Secondary] Trade Mission -Highland Kingdom
Since people want to fix our centralization, expanding trails costs econ and gives us 1 centralization. Enforce Authority has a chance for a -1 stability hit, but gives us anywhere from 1-3 centralization.
Looking at the military expansion we'll need next turn, I think possibly taking a stability hit would be better towards solving the centralization problem rather than taking an econ hit (which we really need right now) for only 1 point of centralization.
Trade mission to HK because it doesn't cost econ, and this is the best time to do it (the update just gave us a hint to trade them luxuries, if only to make them more enticing for the lowland minors to join).
This'll leave us with 2 econ as wiggle room next turn.
[X] [Secondary] Trade Mission -Highland Kingdom
Since people want to fix our centralization, expanding trails costs econ and gives us 1 centralization. Enforce Authority has a chance for a -1 stability hit, but gives us anywhere from 1-3 centralization.
Looking at the military expansion we'll need next turn, I think possibly taking a stability hit would be better towards solving the centralization problem rather than taking an econ hit (which we really need right now) for only 1 point of centralization.
Trade mission to HK because it doesn't cost econ, and this is the best time to do it (the update just gave us a hint to trade them luxuries, if only to make them more enticing for the lowland minors to join).
This'll leave us with 2 econ as wiggle room next turn.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Question to the peoples who might know, since I'm still trying to catch up on the thread discussion but have read all the story posts, who is equivalent to our first mythological Hero. Is it Crow, Gwygoytha? I mean in the sense that Gilgamesh was the first written Hero in our universe/timeline.
I'm blanking on all the awesome people who have shown up in the story.
I'm blanking on all the awesome people who have shown up in the story.
- Location
- Canada
We've bet on having more time for awhile now. I can't justify that risk for short term benefits anymore.
I choose to take low econ now for ensured survival later. Lets make use of that maxed legitimacy stat.
Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
- Location
- Behind you~
Right.
Things that are low:
Stability
Mysticism
Things that are kinda low:
Econ
Things we could burn:
Diplo
[X] [Secondary] Expand Holy Sites
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - Blue stone quarry
+Mysticism, -Econ paid for by +Econ
And we'll really hit Econ hard next turn along with Stability
Things that are low:
Stability
Mysticism
Things that are kinda low:
Econ
Things we could burn:
Diplo
[X] [Secondary] Expand Holy Sites
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - Blue stone quarry
+Mysticism, -Econ paid for by +Econ
And we'll really hit Econ hard next turn along with Stability
- Location
- Hell
So to avoid that we need to trap them like the rats that they are >:3Gunboat diplomacy is still diplomacy.
Of course we can also set off a hostile stand off between upper and lower level of government.
Like say, build walls so they can't escape?
Oooh
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Authority
[X] [Secondary] Trade Mission - Highland Kingdom
This way we get get our best chance at it before we start walling our cities. Also we need to get in with the Highland Kingdom.
Crow, Gwygoytha was called the First Student of Crow after all.
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
We haven't really reached the point of a classical mythic hero in the vein of Gilgamesh just yet. And that will be difficult thanks to our religious structure, which believes that the spirits of prominent ancestors can become more powerful given enough time. Crow is basically our head god, and Gwygoytha is coming to be associated with war, honor, and stuff like that.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
[X] [Secondary] Expand Holy Sites
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - Blue stone quarry
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - Blue stone quarry