1) Expanding warriors should also improve our base troops quality and even the highest quality will fall to quantity especially if spread out over a large area.
2) This is a good goal, but not incompatible with a single expand warriors. I am not talking about bringing our military to 50% of our population just a one time increase and see how that goes.
3)And yet despite our economic advantage when was the last time we really did a great military action (I might have forgotten it happening), The DP kicked our buts repeatedly and an entire war band was just wiped out in the ST debacle. Our success against the nomads civilians was due to us bypassing their armed forces, a tactic which would not work as well against the DP as we lack the transportation means plus the DP have walled settlements. This is a very long term strategy and should we encounter a high population and high martial culture we would be in a bad place.
In the end my point is, lets not become like Poland during the second world war, who where outnumbered, outteched and generally underdeveloped.
Why would increasing the number of warriors increase the base troops quality? We already skim the highest quality troops off of the top. Highest quality will fall to quantity, but again, we have the largest population other than the nomads.
The DP kicked our butts repeatedly? What do you mean? We did cooperative raids with the WC and were steadily pushing them back, despite us personally fighting from a month's travel away.
Our success against the nomadic civilians did depend on bypassing them, but our general military strategy with nomads is to fight defensively and deny resources. Actively fighting them does nearly nothing in the long term.
The DP have a walled settlement, we have more than one. The nomads are the highest martial population we know of, and are poorly centralized. Having both a high population and high martial is pretty much a paradox, as having high martial means you have a lower workforce dedicated to breeding and making food and are naturally inclined to losing a significant amount of your male population to war and the diseases that come with it.
I don't know anything about Poland during the world wars, and don't care. This is the Stone Age.
The problem is that we have been letting the our martial base be static for so long
We've pretty recently developed 1) recurve bows 2) Blackbirds 3) carts. The next step is combining 1 & 3 so that we can revolutionize warfare with a highly mobile long ranged strike force, reducing the need for a significant population of warriors because we'll be losing less warriors and doing more damage with them.
I pointed out the DP and noted that they're going to grow, yeah. Your solution to that is basically "let's increase our martial so that we can fight them." As I've stated elsewhere, a better solution is to expand to the lowlands, heavily wall that settlement, and expand our forest there so our Blackbirds can serve a defensive function more easily with guerrilla warfare against any raid parties.
I don't necessarily oppose "a single expand warrior" but that isn't what you seem to be suggesting. You seem to be suggesting an overhaul of our culture into a highly martial one. I would suggest that you make a plan that will display exactly what you think we should do, so that it can be criticized and improved.
Well i did say that once we had upgraded our martial that we should focus on trade or war missions. But i think that we need to modernize our military first.
So once we have sufficient defenses and better army we can begin to trade with HK and then together start attacking the DP in order to keep them suppressed. But if we attempt to do this without improving our military it will most likely be a repeat of when we tried that last time.
It's not "improve" or "modernize" it's expand. Be honest here.
Improving and modernizing involve doing Sacred Warriors and acquiring metalworking.
What the hell does "sufficient defenses" mean? Walling the lower valley rather than simply expanding into the lowlands?
If you're already admitting trade with the HK is valuable and plan on doing coordinated attacks, you should trade with them early to gain the influence needed to convince them to attack the DP together. In this way, we can expand our military and use it at the same time. Doing otherwise wastes bodies.
Do you have any arguments against my plan to increase our military or are we going to continue to argue about the HK
He supports a single expand to military, but finds your concern with the HK baffling.
I understand your concern with the HK, but find your desire to expand the military now baffling.
That's incorrect formatting of the vote.
What's the vote that you support? Can you redo your vote?
Edit: doing one last response then sleeping.
