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Killer_Whale said:
But why? We need all the forests we can get.
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Right now we have 4 excess forests, 3 if you count Valleyguard's upcoming baths as well.

More than that though, we need to get 6 progress on a market and 6 progress on a temple in the next 2 turns. And 3 progress to finish Redshore's baths. That's 15 progress needed. Those two swaps add 8 free progress, which isn't quite enough but is enough to make it reasonable to finish both the Priest and the Urban Poor quests.
 
More to the point, we now have 5-7 Forest Leeway. As long as we match use with growth, we should be fine right now.

I say start with the Dam, and work on the Annexes for right now.

Do we have enough Wealth to add roads? I would love some roads...
 
[X][Secondary] Change Policy - Passive (Forestry + Forestry -> Infrastructure + Infrastructure)
[X][Secondary] Expand Forests

Support!

Edit: Add in
[X][Secondary] Palace Annex - Great Hall Expansion

To prevent Hijack.
 
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Sivantic said:
More to the point, we now have 5-7 Forest Leeway. As long as we match use with growth, we should be fine right now.

I say start with the Dam, and work on the Annexes for right now.

Do we have enough Wealth to add roads? I would love some roads...
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Our biggest bottleneck is Influence Subordinate if we want to do it, as that sucks a lot of wealth.

If we get rid of that we kinda need to do a main build docks and hope for innovation rolls to ease connection with our colonies. Good news is that only costs 1 wealth, leaving us with 3 which would be enough for for roads, if we do do that.

Our bigger problem is Econ costs.
 
[X][Main] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action
[X][Secondary] Grand Hall Annex {S}
[X][Secondary] Grand Hall Annex x2 {S}
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Tinriver
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Greenshore
[X][Secondary] Expand Econ
[X][Guild] Plant Poppies
[X][Guild] Build Warships
[X][Guild sec] Plant Cotton

-12 Econ used, +4 wealth gained, -8 culture lost, -3 mysticism, -4 Tech lost, -3 Martial lost, -4 diplomacy, -10 Econ expansion lost,

EDIT: I expect our provinces to raise the last bit of 2 wealth for us.
 
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[] [Secondary] Change Policy: Forestry x2 -> Infrastructure x2

[][Secondary] Change Policy - Passive (Forestry + Forestry -> Infrastructure + Infrastructure)

We gotta standardize these votes
 
ctulhuslp said:
[X] [Main] Grand Hall Annex
[X][Secondary] Grand Hall Annex
[X][Secondary] Grand Hall Annex x2
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Tinriver
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Trade
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy: Forestry x2 -> Infrastructure x2
[X][Guild] Plant Cotton
[X][Guild] Expand Snail Cultivation
[X][Guild Secondary] Expand Snail Cultivation
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8 points of Econ from Annexes, 2 from Influence, 4 from Cotton, and 4 from snails, for a total of 18, when our current count is 14.

Congratulations; you've caused a famine. You also switched off the policy that would have gotten us Econ Expansion actions.
 
[X][Main] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x2
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x3
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x4
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x5
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x6
 
ETA50M said:
[X][Main] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action
[X][Secondary] Grand Hall Annex {S}
[X][Secondary] Grand Hall Annex x2 {S}
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Tinriver
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Greenshore
[X][Secondary] Expand Econ
[X][Guild] Plant Poppies
[X][Guild] Build Warships
[X][Guild sec] Plant Cotton
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This drops our wealth down by -9, which puts us at -5 before income comes in. Can we not cause a guild panic, please?
 
[X][Main] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x2
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x3
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x4
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x5
[X][Secondary] Dam 4-6? action commitment, -2 Econ per action x6
[X][Kick] Dam


Forgot an important part of this vote.
 
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PrimalShadow said:
We really, really don't need extra LTE right now. We are drowning in LTE, to the point where we can't even get our capital back up. Can we focus on that, instead?
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Thing is, with 3x Plant actions and the rural plague still in effect, we drop our LTE like a rock this turn. Our current max refund is 2. My updated plan drops us:
Roads: -1 LTE extra
Poppies: -3 LTE native, -1 LTE extra
Poppies x2: -3 LTE native, -1 LTE extra
Cotton: -2 LTE native, -1 LTE extra
For -12 LTE. We're currently at 39 LTE, so -12 would put us at 27, which is just barely enough to fill our cap.

Adding in a settlement for +4 is entirely reasonable. Note too my [Secondary] Expand Econ which makes sure our EE drops down as our actual econ value rises.
 
[X][Main] Dam
-[X][Kick] Dam
[X][Secondary] Grand Hall Annex
[X][Secondary] Grand Hall Annex x2
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Tinriver
[X][Secondary] Influence Subordinate - Greenshore
[X][Secondary] Expand Econ
[X][Guild] Plant Cotton
[X][Guild] Expand Snail Cultivation
[X][Guild sec] Efficient Charcoal Kilns
 
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