Oh, yes. How could I have been mistaken. I obviously should have gone back and checked.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- his hidden lair
Securing South-Shore before they do. Granted, we could run a secondary with it but I know a lot of people want to take this opportunity to indulge our megaproject fetish.
Mmm, sure enough.
Remember the main challenges of The Law:
-Establishing a Code out of the mess thats your previous rulings and traditions. You need a lot of work to get some kind of reasonable baseline.
-Carving the Code of Law into every settlement.
-Establishing the literate population to interpret it locally.
If we send them a copy of our Laws, it's going to contain a hundred years of concentrated effort refining previous rulings into a unified Law. And remember they don't get Kickers. This is 4 actions to complete. Not cheap at all
So they'd probably get something like from their negaverse:
[] Ignore the Hill People Laws, they are foreign.
[] Use their Laws as a basis. Gain 2 actions worth of progress at no cost. Adopt some Hill People traditions.
[] Use their Laws and language as a basis. Gain 3 actions worth of progress at no cost. Adopt some Hill People traditions. Transition to Ideogramic/Phonetic writing at a -1 Stability cost. (if they don't already have it, because one of the challenges of writing a Law is how to write down legal ideas which you don't have the symbols for as they are abstract)
[] Just use their Laws, why waste your effort? Immediately complete The Law megaproject at no cost. Adopt Hill People laws wholesale. Lose 2 Stability.
A few interesting tidbits:
This sounds like an iron deposit (magnetite?) exposed on the cliff. Water causes the it to leak and oxidize, forming rust.
This sounds like opium, which would greatly enable further medical development. Wikipedia suggests that the opium poppy has a very wide range of hardiness, growing in countries as far north as Germany. If we could get some seeds, our agricultural expertise would probably give us the best chance of being able to cultivate it of any of our immediate neighbors.
This sounds like an iron deposit (magnetite?) exposed on the cliff. Water causes the it to leak and oxidize, forming rust.
This is probably a bit more exaggerated, and coming from iron in a spring flowing out. When I've seen things like this in person -- at retired iron extraction sites in Ontario -- it's a bit more subtle but similar.
This sounds like opium, which would greatly enable further medical development. Wikipedia suggests that the opium poppy has a very wide range of hardiness, growing in countries as far north as Germany. If we could get some seeds, our agricultural expertise would probably give us the best chance of being able to cultivate it of any of our immediate neighbors.
- Location
- Philippines
The saltern does what you are saying it gives us +1 diplo until currency is invented
- Location
- From the moon
There's nothing wrong is having a fetish~...
Although depending on how it goes having both salterns and gardens on the same turn would be huge to our civilization.
[X] Expand Carrion Eaters (-1 Econ, -1 Mysticism, +1 Martial, many more Carrion Eaters, additional effects)
[X] Highland Kingdom
Among other things, I do agree with dam before garden, and I'd like to talk to the highlanders so they don't freak out when their river flow starts changing.
[X] Highland Kingdom
Among other things, I do agree with dam before garden, and I'd like to talk to the highlanders so they don't freak out when their river flow starts changing.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- It/Them
Yepp, definitely looking forward to a study metal main when we do the copper mine.A few interesting tidbits:
This sounds like an iron deposit (magnetite?) exposed on the cliff. Water causes the it to leak and oxidize, forming rust.
This is probably a bit more exaggerated, and coming from iron in a spring flowing out. When I've seen things like this in person -- at retired iron extraction sites in Ontario -- it's a bit more subtle but similar.
Ancient Scholar
Amateur Editor/Beta
- Location
- United States
[X] Study Stars (continues chain) + Survey Lands
[X] Xohyssiri
Let's bring the healers home.
[X] Xohyssiri
Let's bring the healers home.
Timing is important.
Consider this. If you've just started, the task is daunting. You have a century worth of effort needed to figure out what the precedents of your laws are, then you need to distill the core principles out of them. Then you need to figure out the regional case exceptions and then you write it down.
If you present them with a complete set of laws in the very first turn of their project, RIGHT when they start it, they'd be MUCH more tempted to borrow heavily from you than if you presented them with your laws after they already finished gathering their precedents, and you'd be working against the weight of their tradition.
The Metal Workers of course, can wait. Yes, even if they have bronze because we don't have Tin anywhere in our land to make it, we don't have copper mines yet, and we'd get the news next turn anyway...since you may recall we have ongoing trade with them so we can just buy it with shitloads of salt.
The DPs meanwhile, are a wider window of opportunity. They have a truce with the Thunder Horse(who are fighting the other Thunder Horse) and the Highland Kingdom are working on a Megaproject. We know from experience that waging war while on a megaproject is pretty stupid.
As such, I can expect the trade opportunity there to remain open for at least 2 more turns, until the HK finishes their megaproject.
- Location
- Philippines
You know I am curious what would happen if we do not use any diplo and go past our diplo limit would people like us too much and what effects will result from that?
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Theres no hard cap. We'd just stop at Diplomacy 12 probably, and waste gains above that.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] Expand Carrion Eaters (-1 Econ, -1 Mysticism, +1 Martial, many more Carrion Eaters, additional effects)
[X] Xohyssiri
Next turn, I'd like to put the next megaproject on hold, perhaps spend a secondary action to swap to diplomatic or expansion focus so we can get a bunch of stuff done at once.
[X] Xohyssiri
Next turn, I'd like to put the next megaproject on hold, perhaps spend a secondary action to swap to diplomatic or expansion focus so we can get a bunch of stuff done at once.
If we aren't doing a megaproject we get a free mid turn switch out I think.
- Location
- his hidden lair
Oh god.
Negaverse HK:
'We of the Ymaryn have come to reopen trade, we hear you seek to enshrine order for all perpetuity for your people and ask if you need aid in such a daunting task. We must also warn that another of our Great Workings will begin soon, and in doing so alter the river itself. It should not be harmful, but we must forewarn you- as a gift and preemptive restitution for Working your river, have some salt' *carts in wagons full of the stuff*
*Hillbillies is now my affectionate nickname for the Ymaryn.
- Location
- Central Europe
Another point as to why vote [] Highland Kingdom, we are likely to expand into south shore next turn. This new province will deny the Highland Kingdom sea acess of its own. IMO a diplomatic mission will be beneficial in establishing some good will before expanding into "their" backyard.
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I'm heading out now, but I've been sufficiently convinced to commit my trade expedition vote as well.
[X] Expand Carrion Eaters (-1 Econ, -1 Mysticism, +1 Martial, many more Carrion Eaters, additional effects)
[X] Highland Kingdom
Good luck with the next few turns, all.
[X] Expand Carrion Eaters (-1 Econ, -1 Mysticism, +1 Martial, many more Carrion Eaters, additional effects)
[X] Highland Kingdom
Good luck with the next few turns, all.
This would be part of why I don't want to immediately go into the next project. As nice as they are, they're not urgent, and we have some things to do that kindof are.
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- Location
- Australia
[X] Xohyssiri
I think forming relations with the Xohyssiri is more important than helping the HK with their laws. With it seeming like people are going to want to do the Garden next turn, we won't be able to do a Trade Mission with them while the proverbial iron is still hot.
I think forming relations with the Xohyssiri is more important than helping the HK with their laws. With it seeming like people are going to want to do the Garden next turn, we won't be able to do a Trade Mission with them while the proverbial iron is still hot.
Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
- Location
- Behind you~
[X] Study Stars (continues chain) + Survey Lands
[X] Xohyssiri
What the hell, it's not like warring with them has done much good aside from mollifying allies and we don't have any designs on the territory down in that area still anyway. They have access to a lot of things to their S and SE anyway that might be interesting to at least learn about.
[X] Xohyssiri
What the hell, it's not like warring with them has done much good aside from mollifying allies and we don't have any designs on the territory down in that area still anyway. They have access to a lot of things to their S and SE anyway that might be interesting to at least learn about.
@Academia Nut Front page update missed, believe this should be Cosmopolitan Acceptance now