Then we need Hazō adhere to explicit habits.

For example, my life strategy is that I go through the 11 habits that I written down every week and see where I was successful and where I was not. Make modifications as needed, or make new habits.


For example, Identity: Hazō is a social learner, rather than socially incompetent. He shall have a meeting with Mari-sensei before dinner every night to discuss his ongoing social life, lessons he learned, and how to improve.
 
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Honestly, I'm still kind of skeptical that this agency thing is as all-encompassing a character flaw as people seem to think it is. Like, we have the obvious problem moments where Hazou does something stupid like give away info on Elemental Mastery and yes, that's because he (and we) forgot to ask whether Akane would be okay with this.

But I try to think of how this is a problem in Hazou's daily life that shows up in small minor things and I just come up blank. Other people still do things we didn't expect, of course, but I just can't see 'you didn't perfectly model every person who may potentially be involved with this' as a major character flaw; it's just normal human limitations.

It's still a character flaw in the sense that it exists to explain some of our goofs, so I can definitely agree that we are making that mistake every so often, but I really can't see anything persistent and pervasive about it that doesn't apply to almost literally everyone else. And when people start talking about it like it is all-encompassing and pervasive, I just start wondering if trying to fix a problem that isn't actually there will do more harm than good.
 
Personally I see a decent portion of it as other characters problem.

Hazou is still the defacto Leader guy. Sometimes that means you get told to do something that you might not agree with without you being consulted. Sucks man, but thats just the way it is in Ninjadeathworld. Don't like it, then you be the one who stares into space and proposes workable solutions in the blink of an eye. It's not like Hazou doesn't majorly inconvenience himself with things as well ("Hey, see all those seals you have? That was like a week of our free time, my dudes.") and I really have to wonder how much of this boils down to "Teenagers not liking being told what to do. Especially by other teenagers." and a general lack of communication.
 
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So. The tournament — what we're here ostensibly for. People are going to pretend it's important. Let's see what has happened so far and what could happen from there.
  • All non-Leaf ninja lost the moment they encountered a Leaf ninja. Isn't that significant, given how much we outnumber everyone else, but should probably be noted.
    • Mist is a laughing stock. They had one ninja in the running, and he was effortlessly defeated by someone who wanted to do anything but fight him.
    • Hot Springs are a laughing stock. All of them lost in the first round, in incredibly embarrassing ways.
    • Sand is visibly doing its best.
      • (I'm highly doubtful that Ikeda has a good chance of defeating Shikamaru. If she does win, I'll be very impressed.)
  • Our (as in, the Gouketsu's) plan to maintain our image as implacable soldiers was ruined with our first battle, in the worst possible way: a Gouketsu falling to a Hyuuga.
    • Noburi was the only Gouketsu to lose in the first round. He'll likely be viewed as the weakest of us. Ouch?
    • Our showing is pretty... mediocre, really. Our best-case scenario now is that Keiko goes through all her opponents and wins the tournament, which wouldn't be very surprising or impressive. "She is a summoner who won because she summons better ninja," they will be saying.
  • ISC are doing what we wanted to: winning.
    • If Keiko loses to Shikamaru, it'll be a disaster. A Summoner losing to a notoriously lazy non-combat specialist? It'll cement the view that our Events performance was that good only because of Nara-optimised plans.
    • ISC vs. Team Kurenai: there's two interesting scenarios here:
      • Hinata loses to Chouji, Shino loses to Ino. It would look extremely good for ISC...
        • ... especially if Keiko loses to Shikamaru. The tournament will then essentially be optimised for making the Nara look great. Jiraiya will likely keep the hat, but the Nara's influence over us will be enormous.
          • (We'll totally need to marry Ami in that case.)
      • Hinata defeats Chouji, then either Shino defeats Ino, or Hinata does. If that happens, Hinata will have proven herself more capable than ISC's ability to plan for, and if Keiko loses to Shikamaru, she'll defeat the latter in the final battle and win the tournament.
        • Absolute worst-case scenario, in this context.
As such, my conclusion is that the Akatsuki's invasion could only improve our situation. I know, I know, it's not exactly an insightful or novel opinion, but I think it's important to re-check these kinds of assumptions: you don't know when they may change. I await their next move with ardent dreams.

To be more serious: Can we somehow crash the tournament? I don't mean in a violent way1​. Can we discredit its results with some kind of modern discreditation technique? Can we distract everyone by unleashing some dangerous memagent on the EN, like the already-suggested Advanced Advertising? Probably shouldn't spend too much effort on this, but if there are any low-hanging fruits...
We would have to stop thinking that we know everything better and that only we can do things properly.
That'd be hard. We do know better. I think it would be more optimal to convince everyone in-story of this, or somehow circumvent the problem entirely. Hmm.
"Anyway, once you know how to move lifeforce around between bodies it's easy to kill someone by sucking them dry. Then you cut their brain out, fix it, and shove some lifeforce back into the body to bring them back. Their brain was fixed so from then on they're loyal to whichever brother brought them back."
I think we need to ask the Sage for advice here. He is in Jiraiya's assistant, Isobe, right? @TarzanNn is right then, it'd need to wait until we return to Leaf.


1. See how serious I'm being? I even passed on the opportunity to make another Banshee Fucking joke there.
 
We haven't done anything about creating a merchant spy network.

Weekly reports of prices of various goods would be great.
 
Our (as in, the Gouketsu's) plan to maintain our image as implacable soldiers was ruined with our first battle, in the worst possible way: a Gouketsu falling to a Hyuuga.
  • Noburi was the only Gouketsu to lose in the first round. He'll likely be viewed as the weakest of us. Ouch?
  • Our showing is pretty... mediocre, really. Our best-case scenario now is that Keiko goes through all her opponents and wins the tournament, which wouldn't be very surprising or impressive. "She is a summoner who won because she summons better ninja," they will be saying.

*Handwaves* Noburi is clearly the team medic and general support.

(Sorry, Nobby. Truly. Although, next time consult us before deciding what to spend 2 months worth of XP on....)

On the other hand, Hazou ran through the prince (I think thats what this guy is implied to be? Like he's the clan heir of their equivalent of the Senju/Hyuuga/Uchiha or something) of Hotsprings without getting anything more than some busted eardrums. As noted in his pre-match speech, Hazou is a sealmaster with his toys banned. We're hardly the most optimized for vanilla kicking the shit out of things, since somewhere around 1/5 of our XP is tied up in Sealing in some way.

I'm not particularly sold on this tournament thing being all that important politically on a micro level (i.e. besides the finished bracket results). We should do well enough to get the Championship, but as far as I can tell it just appears to be a lot of bread and circus shit for the masses combined with opportunities for teenagers to leak their secret techniques.


To be more serious: Can we somehow crash the tournament? I don't mean in a violent way1. Can we discredit its results with some kind of modern discreditation technique? Can we distract everyone by unleashing some dangerous memagent on the EN, like the already-suggested Advanced Advertising? Probably shouldn't spend too much effort on this, but if there are any low-hanging fruits...
NB: We don't even have to derail it wholesale. Example: Just trick Kiba into causing an international incident or something that makes the Inuzaka/Hyuuga look realllly bad.

The Minami clan head is also here. We could kill the Oyabun and give her the body. That would maybe convince her to vote for Jiraiya.

My read on the situation is that if we get the four votes from ISC + Sarutobi along with 1-2 others, we're basically good to go. The full roster of clans can't possibly be much larger than those known at present, otherwise we would have already known about them.
 
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On the other hand, Hazou ran through the prince (I think thats what this guy is implied to be? Like he's the clan heir of their equivalent of the Senju/Hyuuga/Uchiha or something) of Hotsprings without getting anything more than a some funky eardrums. As noted in his pre-match speech, Hazou is a sealmaster with his toys banned. We're hardly the most optimized for vanilla kicking the shit out of things, since somewhere around 1/5 of our XP is tied up in Sealing in some way.

He also cheated by having 5 clones from the beginning and still lost. Meanwhile we can explode in people's faces.

Remember what Shikamaru said about the Tournament:

"I care more about forging bonds with other villages than winning the tournament," Shikamaru explained, offering the benefit of the doubt and not going into detail yet. "This entire event is a farce. We are both in the Chūnin Exam tournament. We are objectively among the top candidates of our year, and both of us will therefore be promoted regardless of what happens here." (And wasn't that just annoying? There would be all sorts of new paperwork and job responsibilities to go with the unwanted rank.) "The only purpose of this event is to provide the masses with some entertainment and the Kage with a chance to get together and have negotiations in safety. It's all very troublesome."

"Are you crazy? This is the Chūnin Exams! Competing is a major honor and winning will make your rep!"

Shikamaru shrugged one shoulder, because shrugging both was too much effort. "If you're good enough to be here then you'll make a reputation for yourself regardless."

Also we should do the the opposite, if Hinata wins, we should publicly congratulate her and Hiashi. They are valuable Champions of the Leaf after all.

Meanwhile we marry Ami and create actual value and make Jiraiya's reign as stable as possible. Mari can outmanouver Hiashi, Ami is going to drive him crazy.
 
We haven't done anything about creating a merchant spy network.
We should have a bunch of information about this in character (we spent at least 2 updates trying to do stuff here).

We can tackle some of this post tournament, I think. Most merchants are going to take a few days to pack up their wares and leave town.

We can ask Jiraiya if we can hand out a couple formal writs of patronage or something to a few of them. Though that sorta defeats the purpose of them being a spy network if everyone knows they're our merchants. We'd likely have to spend a good deal of time bullshitting with a few of them in a bar or something to get well-acquainted. We'd probably want to somehow hitch their stars to our metaphorical cart, somehow.
 
We haven't done anything about creating a merchant spy network.

Weekly reports of prices of various goods would be great.

Have we asked Jiraiya about using his network instead? Its easier to build network when there is at least something to start with. If we haven't it shouldn't be too hard to convince him to use the network to not only receive prices, but to mess with Leaf's enemies in economics fashion. Having Mori, the Goddesses of Logistics, on our side (or at least one) can be really useful then.
 
We should have a bunch of information about this in character (we spent at least 2 updates trying to do stuff here).

We can tackle some of this post tournament, I think. Most merchants are going to take a few days to pack up their wares and leave town.

We can ask Jiraiya if we can hand out a couple formal writs of patronage or something to a few of them. Though that sorta defeats the purpose of them being a spy network if everyone knows they're our merchants. We'd likely have to spend a good deal of time bullshitting with a few of them in a bar or something to get well-acquainted. We'd probably want to somehow hitch their stars to our metaphorical cart, somehow.

Eh. It's still beneficial to have an information network. It's just open source rather than secret.
 
Have we asked Jiraiya about using his network instead? Its easier to build network when there is at least something to start with. If we haven't it shouldn't be too hard to convince him to use the network to not only receive prices, but to mess with Leaf's enemies in economics fashion. Having Mori, the Goddesses of Logistics, on our side (or at least one) can be really useful then.

Jiraiya's eastern network is destroyed and the Mori intelligence network will probably be breached by the Nara with the knowledge Keiko can provide about their 'coin system'. I assume they will try to build a new one, but at least some stuff will be lost.
 
Have we asked Jiraiya about using his network instead? Its easier to build network when there is at least something to start with. If we haven't it shouldn't be too hard to convince him to use the network to not only receive prices, but to mess with Leaf's enemies in economics fashion. Having Mori, the Goddesses of Logistics, on our side (or at least one) can be really useful then.

I prefer to compartmentalize if possible.
 
Jiraiya's eastern network is destroyed and the Mori intelligence network will probably be breached by the Nara with the knowledge Keiko can provide about their 'coin system'. I assume they will try to build a new one, but at least some stuff will be lost.

Yeah, but Jiraiys still has a western network intact and at least some people in it are traders. He will rebuild the eastern part given enough time and we can help with it if we boost our social skills (or send Ami straight away if we have away to prove her loyalty).

Keiko is still part of Gouketsu and everything she works on could be sealed as clan secret. Nara can have old Mori stuff, but anything Keiko will work with us could be kept secret since she is marrying in Nara, not adopted.
 
We would have to stop thinking that we know everything better and that only we can do things properly.
That'd be hard. We do know better.
The Minami clan head is also here. We could kill the Oyabun and give her the body. That would maybe convince her to vote for Jiraiya.


NOBURI: So, we seem to be in quite the pickle. Keiko couldn't focus on her match and lost because someone tried to hit on her sister at the worst possible time and someone else - I won't say who - lost in their very first match to Hinata of all people. And worst of all, Jiraiya can't find a clean shirt. What are we going to do? He is definitely not going to keep the hat like this.

HAZOU: Hold my marriage proposal, I got this. *flicks Ami's scroll at Noburi and jumps out through a window*

-o-o-o-
HAZOU: And that is how I made sure you will stay as Hokage, sir. It was pretty simple once I knew what to do.

JIRAIYA: (*holds up his hand*) Please repeat what you just said. In detail.

HAZOU: Well, remember how you said that the Minami would have voted for you had her daughter not tragically died on the mission she went with us? Our working assumption was that she got killed by the yakuza in retaliation for us abducting their senior finance officer. Why, that is the only possible reason she could have died and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.​

HAZOU: Anyways, since I had an in with the oyabun here in Mist, I set up a meeting with him and then acquainted him with the inside of a storage seal - if you catch my drift - and delivered him to the Minami to sate their lust for vengeance. Now they will definitely vote for you and not ask any uncomfortable questions whatsoever.

JIRAIYA: Let me get this straight: You reasoned that Minami must have been killed by the yakuza - an organization that famously consists of multiple competing branches from all over the Elemental Nations - and decided that the hit was ordered by the Mist faction instead of any of the dozen others who'd have a better motive? And that somehow killing Teuchi would not have any repercussions even though the Mizukage implicitly tolerated him? What in Jashin's name possessed you to do this?

HAZOU: Well, my history of never being wrong for one. And I mean, what are the odds that the oyabun I know and who happens to be physically closest to me isn't responsible for things that happened to us personally? Anything else would just feel contrived.

JIRAIYA: ... How did the Minami react when you gave them the scroll?

HAZOU: No idea. Seeing the Minami matriarch still feels a bit awkward for me so I just lobbed the scroll at her from a distance and ran off. I figured the message would be obvious. I mean, what else could it possibly mean? That we are threatening her with the fact that we just casually took out a very influential man right under an enemy military power's nose because he refused to fall in line? That would be absurd.

JIRAIYA: Yes. Absurd. :facepalm:

JIRAIYA: Actually, no this amount of facepalming is not sufficient to show just what I think of you and your harebrained idea right now. Shadow Clone technique! (*to his clones*) Facepalm until you dispel. All five of you.

NOBURI: Hey, Hazou. How about you don't leave the house anymore until we are back in Leaf? Just a suggestion, bro.
 
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Really? Really? You think we know better?

That strikes me as wanton arrogance.
I don't think those are indicative of the Hivemind being generally less competent than people in universe.

Our base rate for good decision making is likely very high from my perspective. Its not like we're going to have an IC backpatting fest filled with sake and strippers every time we do something right. On the flip side, our failures are extremely pronounced and tend to stick out in memory. Most of the issues result from a lack of (properly applied) pessimism and incomplete information. The first is easily fixed modulo some caution about overdoing it needlessly to the point of paranoia(less "That guy is Zabuza and so is his friend, run away!"and more "Yes, this nice sounding idea does reflect the progressive 21st century ideals we want to bring to this world, but unfortunately most folks are selfish pricks with no reason to care." ) . The second can be fixed with some combination of "Check with J( or other authority/advisor ) beforehand/Think about it for five minutes before/Take at least five seconds to mull things over before you respond/Do not immediately change your opinion when faced with the first remotely credible-sounding argument against your beliefs/etc.
 
*puts on tinfoil hat*

Maybe Ami is going to die because the Minami and Hyuuga are sniffing around. Because it was her that destroyed Jiraiyas network and killed Nikko in the process.

*keeps tinfoil hat on to protect from evil Illuminati magic*
 
I think @Evenstar got this partially covered here:



A few notes on this plan, though.

Firstly, it has to be made when we are back in Leaf. It was mentioned that now is not a good time with Tournament, and Ami, and the sheer levels of stress everyone in Gōketsu has to deal with. Another reason is that we need all other members to be present as well. Akane's input would be invaluable (hope she's still alive and... err... functional), Mari can contribute if she has recovered and Kagome... well, he had a few moments of sudden clarity that could come handy. And to just sit and listen and be there, if the moment doesn't come.

Second thing, we need to make this less of a tantrum thrown and more of a reasonable discussion. Not force our vision on people, but gather their input and make good use of it. In this regard original plan needs a lot of rewording. We need to play this cool. Inhale patience, exhale stress, yadda-yadda.

Next, the single meeting will not solve the problem. We need to make it a regular thing - gather once a week/month/any other reasonable time period. The actual timing could be decided on the first meeting. The point we need to make is that we need to stick together, share our ideas and plans and not just do wath Hazõ wants everyone to do. Noburi is almost out of picture nowadays and has no agenda of his own, for example. If people actually start sharing their thoughts on such meetings we can change something for them and I really think we should.

Now, if we want to pull this off, we need to do it smart and have reasonable success for the first meeting. Thus, we need to talk to Jiraiya, Nobby, Mari and Akane separately and convince them to help. Kinda like politics actually works: you do not start a voting process if you don't expect to succeed. Keiko probably would not go along with the idea, so I guess we better leave her in the dark before actual meeting and Kagome is not that good at social to make a difference. Besides he will just spill the beans. But if every other person is convinced, others will stick to the meetings as well. Hopefully.

If we can make the thing work, the level of trust can go to missing-nin period. Sure there will be problems, but they will have much higher chance of getting addressed in time and not growing to the size of freaking avalanche. There will still be trust issuess, but there will be trust. Honestly, at the moment I don't think anyone trusts Keiko sanity at all. And it slips away with every small incident.

The agency of all other characters will grow significantly because they will have a specified time to share their agendas, thoughts, ideas, whatever so that we can put them in Action Plans. Otherwise we will get Nobby and Akane-like tantrums every other chapter because we forgot to put point 'ask their opinion' in the plan. They supposed to be intelligent! Let them share their opinions and make an opening where they can put it.

But this one topic is really not as urgent as every other problem we have right now and shouldn't be implemented in a rush.

Hivemind input?

I did write up a reply to the plan by @Evenstar earlier (but never posted it), so let me see if I can retrace my steps there.

First, I agree with the comment on Hazou and agency here:

Honestly, I'm still kind of skeptical that this agency thing is as all-encompassing a character flaw as people seem to think it is. Like, we have the obvious problem moments where Hazou does something stupid like give away info on Elemental Mastery and yes, that's because he (and we) forgot to ask whether Akane would be okay with this.

But I try to think of how this is a problem in Hazou's daily life that shows up in small minor things and I just come up blank. Other people still do things we didn't expect, of course, but I just can't see 'you didn't perfectly model every person who may potentially be involved with this' as a major character flaw; it's just normal human limitations.

It's still a character flaw in the sense that it exists to explain some of our goofs, so I can definitely agree that we are making that mistake every so often, but I really can't see anything persistent and pervasive about it that doesn't apply to almost literally everyone else. And when people start talking about it like it is all-encompassing and pervasive, I just start wondering if trying to fix a problem that isn't actually there will do more harm than good.

Plus, he's gone back-and-forth some on communication--there was a period where they asked him to taper down on CCNJ-ing everything, after all. To some degree the communication is only really a problem because he's playing so drastically over his level that he has a hard time course-correcting in the moment; you don't really have a walking problem if you're only falling off of tightropes, you know? The real solution is to finish the tournament, get out of Mist, and get back to a playing field where Hazou is more capable.

The meeting is in general a bad format for addressing issues, because it means that you're pointing out people's problems in front of everyone else. That immediately makes pride and social face a factor and complicates communication, because it often means that even if people objectively agree with you they'll have a harder time saying so. People will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid feeling embarrassed, and that's the first thing any call-out accomplishes.

The specific critiques are also a problem. Jiraiya's in a busy period as a Kage, but what's tipping him over the edge of overwork is his dual responsibilities--he's Hokage and head of Clan Goketsu, which includes Naruto. Considering our respective situations, he can't afford to drop that end, and there's no one else who can do it. He can delegate to some degree on the Hokage side, but if he dumps too many responsibilities to focus on clan matters, that's legitimate reason to lose the hat, which we really can't afford for many different reasons.

Critiquing Keiko is difficult because she'll agree with all of the symptoms (see that last talk with her, and her talking about her social problems) while ignoring the actual diagnosis (all of it stems from her self-worth issues). Her problems are also sufficiently obvious that calling them out doesn't really accomplish anything.

Saying Noburi is too easy on Hazou is a bad idea. Hazou currently has basically zero actual non-family friends, save Akane, and when your best option for outside social support is your recently-broken-up-with ex, you know you're in a bad situation. Given that Noburi is the only person with which Hazou currently really has a comfortable, mutually supportive relationship, keeping that structure in place is really important! Hazou is the earthly vessel of our ineffable will and he does a bad job of it when he's emotionally compromised (see: Hana).

The rest isn't really actionable. Getting more outside family pulled into the Clan would be good, but they're all bloodline ninja and therefore the personal becomes incredibly political. It's a good argument for Hazou biting his tongue and going along with the engagement to Ami, at least, though there's many other things to weigh in that department.

(Like the fact the earthly vessel of our ineffable will doesn't want to. But that just means we need to construct an incredibly convincing argument to keep him from screwing up and not committing wholeheartedly to the hilarious clusterfuck currently threatening to engulf his whole life. Honestly, what's his problem?)
 
Then we need Hazō adhere to explicit habits.

For example, my life strategy is that I go through the 11 habits that I written down every week and see where I was successful and where I was not. Make modifications as needed, or make new habits.


For example, Identity: Hazō is a social learner, rather than socially incompetent. He shall have a meeting with Mari-sensei before dinner every night to discuss his ongoing social life, lessons he learned, and how to improve.
That sounds brilliant. Hopefully Mari will be somewhat recovered by the time we get backz
 
Really? Really? You think we know better?

That strikes me as wanton arrogance.

To be fair, there are things we absolutely do know better. Like, this whole Ami thing could not have been accomplished by Hazou on his own.

I'm also leery of accepting "other people know better" as a decision-making rule-of-thumb, for a few reasons. Primary one being, that it essentially farms out our planning to the QMs - which isn't such a bad thing in moderation, but can easily be abused, and on average should result in less XP. The other major reason is that the hivemind has a strange tendency to just uncritically accept what authority figures have to say on a given topic. With Jiraiya it's mostly justified, as he's mostly a source of setting-specific information that we have no way of obtaining otherwise. But Tsunade's treatment for Mari was similarly accepted, in spite of the fact that we should absolutely have superior theoretical knowledge of psychology. This doesn't necessarily mean that Hazou can be a better therapist than Tsunade; he can't, but that shouldn't stop us from critically observing what she's doing.

I'm very cognizant of the fact that Hazou's total throughput is limited, and that we'll increasingly need to delegate if we want to accomplish even our minimum goal. But that doesn't absolve us of responsibility for the results. Letting other people solve problems on their own doesn't mean putting said problems out of mind and hoping everything turns out ok.

And finally, sometimes we're doing something specific enough that we can't rely on other characters' help. We didn't ask Noburi for help with the Ami meeting because his advice wouldn't be likely to fit into the plan we had for it. So much of the approach hinges on our OOC knowledge, and that simply can't be communicated to other characters.
 
I did write up a reply to the plan by @Evenstar earlier (but never posted it), so let me see if I can retrace my steps there.

First, I agree with the comment on Hazou and agency here:



Plus, he's gone back-and-forth some on communication--there was a period where they asked him to taper down on CCNJ-ing everything, after all. To some degree the communication is only really a problem because he's playing so drastically over his level that he has a hard time course-correcting in the moment; you don't really have a walking problem if you're only falling off of tightropes, you know? The real solution is to finish the tournament, get out of Mist, and get back to a playing field where Hazou is more capable.

The meeting is in general a bad format for addressing issues, because it means that you're pointing out people's problems in front of everyone else. That immediately makes pride and social face a factor and complicates communication, because it often means that even if people objectively agree with you they'll have a harder time saying so. People will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid feeling embarrassed, and that's the first thing any call-out accomplishes.

The specific critiques are also a problem. Jiraiya's in a busy period as a Kage, but what's tipping him over the edge of overwork is his dual responsibilities--he's Hokage and head of Clan Goketsu, which includes Naruto. Considering our respective situations, he can't afford to drop that end, and there's no one else who can do it. He can delegate to some degree on the Hokage side, but if he dumps too many responsibilities to focus on clan matters, that's legitimate reason to lose the hat, which we really can't afford for many different reasons.

Critiquing Keiko is difficult because she'll agree with all of the symptoms (see that last talk with her, and her talking about her social problems) while ignoring the actual diagnosis (all of it stems from her self-worth issues). Her problems are also sufficiently obvious that calling them out doesn't really accomplish anything.

Saying Noburi is too easy on Hazou is a bad idea. Hazou currently has basically zero actual non-family friends, save Akane, and when your best option for outside social support is your recently-broken-up-with ex, you know you're in a bad situation. Given that Noburi is the only person with which Hazou currently really has a comfortable, mutually supportive relationship, keeping that structure in place is really important! Hazou is the earthly vessel of our ineffable will and he does a bad job of it when he's emotionally compromised (see: Hana).

The rest isn't really actionable. Getting more outside family pulled into the Clan would be good, but they're all bloodline ninja and therefore the personal becomes incredibly political. It's a good argument for Hazou biting his tongue and going along with the engagement to Ami, at least, though there's many other things to weigh in that department.

(Like the fact the earthly vessel of our ineffable will doesn't want to. But that just means we need to construct an incredibly convincing argument to keep him from screwing up and not committing wholeheartedly to the hilarious clusterfuck currently threatening to engulf his whole life. Honestly, what's his problem?)
We should hang out with more people our age on the daily. Hopefully we can remedy this when we get back to Leaf.
So much of the approach hinges on our OOC knowledge, and that simply can't be communicated to other characters.
Observation: This is true for the lion's share of social plots and social-adjacent plots that we do. Not just this specific case.

The calculation

"Booze + Hot Blonde Foreign Ninja + Hazou + Nobby Flying Wingman = Potential OPSEC Breach Misdirection That Also Gives Ren a Migraine"

isn't immediately obvious to a fourteen year old, though in the context it is certainly in the space of IC solutions given that he's known a seduction spec. We do a lot of other clever things that are viable but by no means low-hanging fruit. I am extremely happy that I was talked into implementing the "Interrupt Kotsuzui with explosives." thing in that speech plan, for example.
 
To be fair, there are things we absolutely do know better. Like, this whole Ami thing could not have been accomplished by Hazou on his own.

I'm also leery of accepting "other people know better" as a decision-making rule-of-thumb, for a few reasons. Primary one being, that it essentially farms out our planning to the QMs - which isn't such a bad thing in moderation, but can easily be abused, and on average should result in less XP. The other major reason is that the hivemind has a strange tendency to just uncritically accept what authority figures have to say on a given topic. With Jiraiya it's mostly justified, as he's mostly a source of setting-specific information that we have no way of obtaining otherwise. But Tsunade's treatment for Mari was similarly accepted, in spite of the fact that we should absolutely have superior theoretical knowledge of psychology. This doesn't necessarily mean that Hazou can be a better therapist than Tsunade; he can't, but that shouldn't stop us from critically observing what she's doing.

I'm very cognizant of the fact that Hazou's total throughput is limited, and that we'll increasingly need to delegate if we want to accomplish even our minimum goal. But that doesn't absolve us of responsibility for the results. Letting other people solve problems on their own doesn't mean putting said problems out of mind and hoping everything turns out ok.

And finally, sometimes we're doing something specific enough that we can't rely on other characters' help. We didn't ask Noburi for help with the Ami meeting because his advice wouldn't be likely to fit into the plan we had for it. So much of the approach hinges on our OOC knowledge, and that simply can't be communicated to other characters.
I have no idea how you went from "We need to be better about respecting other characters' agency; that's a problem borne of hivemind interference more than Hazou" and "We evidentially do not know better" to "let the QMs handle planning". This isn't a problem with that much nuance. We're bad at respecting characters' agency. We -- the hivemind -- need to be better at it or this will keep happening. It's really freaking frustrating to me personally to see it happening still after years in which we could have improved and didn't.

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We should hang out with more people our age on the daily. Hopefully we can remedy this when we get back to Leaf.

Observation: This is true for the lion's share of social plots and social-adjacent plots that we do. Not just this specific case.

The calculation

"Booze + Hot Blonde Foreign Ninja + Hazou + Nobby Flying Wingman = Potential OPSEC Breach Misdirection That Also Gives Ren a Migraine"

isn't immediately obvious to a fourteen year old, though in the context it is certainly in the space of IC solutions given that he's known a seduction spec. We do a lot of other clever things that are viable but by no means low-hanging fruit. I am extremely happy that I was talked into implementing the "Interrupt Kotsuzui with explosives." thing in that speech plan, for example.
For a second there I thought you were talking about the plans for Ami+Hazou versus Jiraiya+Ren and was very confused. :p
 
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