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    • Magoose said:
    Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

    So we have some bad news.

    The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

    I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
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    TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

    To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

    I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

    I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

    I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

    I'll see you all around.

    With so many regards, Duke William Of.
     
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    • If the choice right now is between going behind George's back, or not getting more Star Wars right now, for me the choice is clear.

    Going behind George on Star Wars, for sake of money, is the exact kind of profit-driven scumbag Hollywood exec betrayal that led to the creation of Lukasfilms.
    The answer is not only no, it is hell no.

    More Star Wars is good, but that needs to be discussed with George, which is apparently only possible later.
    So later it will have to be.
     
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    George will break and allow other Star Wars stuff to be made, he did in OTL - why wouldn't he here, even with what changes we've brought? Bro as much as he hated Legends and Disney Canon, A) wanted cash, B) did legitimately like parts of it - remember he had to sign off on most of legends stuff occurring, C) after all Zann was the one from which Lucas took Coruscant. Oh yeah. d) in OTL despite being largely apathetic to the expanded universe he's still the one who allowed for it to occur, allowed for things to be done in it.

    Edit: This isn't me saying go behind George's back. Just reminding everyone that the man went and decided to allow the EU in OTL, for those who are worried if we wait to talk to George to get it started he'll be nah.
     
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    We've trusted Mike with a lot of things, even going ahead with his plan above all things for this year and handing him the keys to the Kingdom to do as he pleases.

    However, Star Wars is George's baby, and it's one of the reasons why we created Lucasfilm's. I'm not opposed to making this into a film (Is it going to be a film? Or part of a TV Series?) but I am opposed on doing this behind George's back.

    If we are to make this movie, then we are doing it with George's blessings or not at all.

    And I know that OTL George Lucas basically sold his soul to the Mouse Empire (even more when he actually said how "Creating magic is not for amateurs", basically betraying everything he once stood for...but he's not that person in this quest. And just like Kathleen Kennedy here is not the same as the OTL "Destroyer of All Star Wars", then neither should we assume that George will be the same.
     
    Saying no means crushing Mike though.

    I am honestly more the yes part, since he can still make the lore and expand it even.

    We will need to make sure this will be the one and only time though.
     
    Magoose said:
    []The FCC is Coming: so you need to give the FCC more stuff to promise for them, and make sure you don't do something silly like… not pay them and gather a library of shows that will come next year. DC: 0
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    I'm confused, why are we dealing with that this turn when we already have our lineup of TV shows that will premiere in August and we dealt with this action last year? Is it to decide which shows come out in the 1983 season when we haven't even premiered LucasTV?

    As for making the movie, I want to do it so bad, especially since it came from my pitch, but it would be best to run it by George first. Sure he was okay with creating the EU, but he needed the money more OTL and was more at the mercy of Fox and other companies. Here he co-runs a major film studio, is a billionaire so has no need of money, and there already is kind of a worrisome precident of going against George like having Rocky be the first Lucasfilms movie so who knows if he'll still react the same.

    Maybe we can insert this write-in:
    []Don't make it: You will put your foot down. Hopefully, he understands. But this is a step too far for you.
    --[ ] Tell Mike you personally love the film, but you need to run this by George first since Star Wars is his creation and as such it's only right he gets the final say. First chance you get, you'll meet with George to get approval for this movie to be made as well as to verify his stance on others creating Star Wars media.

    That being said, at minimum there should be Splinter of the Mind's Eye and the Han Solo Adventure books out by now.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    I'm confused, why are we dealing with that this turn when we already have our lineup of TV shows that will premiere in August and we dealt with this action last year? Is it to decide which shows come out in the 1983 season when we haven't even premiered LucasTV?
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    I believe it's to add more shows since at the moment our TV Library is pretty barebones considering we need to fit a schedule for 7 days. In the end we need more TV Shows to offer the people who are going to tune in for LucasTV's new channel (which we've yet to select a name for).
     
    Magoose said:
    [X]Meanwhile in Germany (Someone digs up a grave)
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    Today I Learned: The Actor of Borat is the Voice Actor of King Julien from the Madagascar series..

    Is Dreamworks going to work on that this time?

    On the Issue..

    Didn't many of us decide to go for Legends to be created? Technically Mike accomplishes the first step towards that plan (and think about it, technically Legends writers didn't need to ask Lucas for permission, otherwise storylines like that one comic that had Luke Skywalker joining the Emperor and the Dark Side wouldn't exist.)

    It would've been better it is classified as not "Canon" (Let's face it, the Lucas-made Movies would be the primary canon source for the SW Fandom, not the random stories that was not personally created by him or express permission), and preferably a book series that won't be confused as movie material. Not to mention this isn't a "Novelization of the Movies" type of project.

    If Mike can be convinced to turn it into some kind of Novelization first and foremost, he could sell off the idea and Lucas can read it, if he enjoys it he can always call for a project to be made from it, if not, well at least the story is out there for SW fans to read.

    EU can be convinced as a "Choose Your Own Adventure" Storyline where fans can pretty muchly fill in the characters, ideas, etc. that may or may not be used for other SW content like games, shows, movies. All would be ask is to not create content for Vader's Backstory, the Clone Wars, etc. (In comparison, it'd be considered as Fanfiction now.)

    It'd be interesting to combine both EU and CC approaches: The Expanded Universe being the encouraged playground for writers to take part in (with their inconsistent versions of characters and the world they inhabit), and the Canon Comics that remains to have consistency and continuation of the story and even have some specials (Like the Vader Comics in the new iteration).
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    I'm confused, why are we dealing with that this turn when we already have our lineup of TV shows that will premiere in August and we dealt with this action last year? Is it to decide which shows come out in the 1983 season when we haven't even premiered LucasTV?
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    It's to choose the shows coming out next year

    It's what I call it to have fun with action names
     
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    For the cyberpunk IP stuff, would Mike Pondsmith would be willing to make starblade battalion and mekton zeta? there even an official mekton zeta stuff for gundam.

    a proper gundam tabletop game at the height of the franchise popularity might work well long term.
     
    Hey guys would it be interesting to see how the Chinese communist party is doing because since they are cut off from the rest of the world minus those they can sell stuff because of proxy wars how are they dealing with a big economic turndown
     
    Honesty the CCP has probably turned China into a de-facto hermit kingdom after that whole debacle. But it was sweet that Kissinger's greatest success turned into a complete disaster.
     
    In all honesty, in a few more years when reganomics kicks I to overdrive alot of industry will be shift over to China anyway. The economic incentives would be too good, so I'd expect industrial capital and financial capital to pull strings to get a reopening of sino-american relations
     
    Bonapartist said:
    In all honesty, in a few more years when reganomics kicks I to overdrive alot of industry will be shift over to China anyway. The economic incentives would be too good, so I'd expect industrial capital and financial capital to pull strings to get a reopening of sino-american relations
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    Well, the new rapport with India makes it possible that most of the industry and investments would go to their side instead, which means a stronger partner right on China's door to help us keep it nice and cornered. Besides, even if China offers economic incentives, you need trust in order to make it happen, for how can you trust you'll get a return without it.

    China needed about a decade to build it, and then had it destroyed in a single act. No one is touching them when there is evidence now that they are not trustworthy.
     
    overmind said:
    Well, the new rapport with India makes it possible that most of the industry and investments would go to their side instead, which means a stronger partner right on China's door to help us keep it nice and cornered. Besides, even if China offers economic incentives, you need trust in order to make it happen, for how can you trust you'll get a return without it.

    China needed about a decade to build it, and then had it destroyed in a single act. No one is touching them when there is evidence now that they are not trustworthy.
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    This is idealistic, though relations with India are better the economic situation their industry is underdeveloped and they are still primarily agricultural. It would take tons of investment across decades for them the catch up to where china is itl. Sad truth but money trumps morals most of the time. Cursory changes to the gov in China would be enough for most business men and financiers to give China a go.
     
    Bonapartist said:
    This is idealistic, though relations with India are better the economic situation their industry is underdeveloped and they are still primarily agricultural. It would take tons of investment across decades for them the catch up to where china is itl. Sad truth but money trumps morals most of the time. Cursory changes to the gov in China would be enough for most business men and financiers to give China a go.
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    China was basically the same economically as India at the time, and the investment given to them would be about the same that it would be given to India. Money trumps morals, true, which is why I never mentioned anything about morals, only trust, which in the end has more to do with the fact that, if you can't trust the man next to you not to scam you, then you don't make business with him because you lose money.

    China's plan is making sure that the "Century of Humilliation" never happens to them again, and the changes they would need for the investment to return to its country would be seen as such.
     
    One thing I am going to say about this situation is that there is going to be shifting winds, and whoever decides to open up China on their terms is going to benefit greatly.

    However, in saying that, most people think that China is still very bad for business, seeing as they tried to assassinate a movie star who technically, has never done anything to them because he happened to have his name on a movie that broke communism in a nation and forced the soviets into a humiliating war that they did not do.

    although, knowing Bruce, he accidentally did somehow start something by sheer accident because some students liked Star Wars, became fans, and understood the underlying themes within it, and decided that its better to be heroes, and strive for a republic or democracy, and freedom, then tyranny.

    And as much as this line of thought is interesting, the only thing that I will be calling to attention, is the fact China's movie industry is getting billions to try and compete with lucasfilms.

    and they are not succeding.
     
    overmind said:
    China was basically the same economically as India at the time, and the investment given to them would be about the same that it would be given to India. Money trumps morals, true, which is why I never mentioned anything about morals, only trust, which in the end has more to do with the fact that, if you can't trust the man next to you not to scam you, then you don't make business with him because you lose money.

    China's plan is making sure that the "Century of Humilliation" never happens to them again, and the changes they would need for the investment to return to its country would be seen as such.
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    Their fate lie at the hands of the magoose dice, either they will have glorious vicotry or crushing failure there is no in-between
     
    Bonapartist said:
    By the way Magoose, how is france doing? Is the Napoleonic restoration underway?
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    Napoleon is the president of France, he's ruling competently and has no desire to activly restore the Empire.

    much as he wishes to only retire when his terms run out.

    He's going to do what the First Napoleon never could.

    Give up power and let the people decide what to do next.
     
    Magoose said:
    Napoleon is the president of France, he's ruling competently and has no desire to activly restore the Empire.

    much as he wishes to only retire when his terms run out.

    He's going to do what the First Napoleon never could.

    Give up power and let the people decide what to do next.
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    C'est fini, le rêve s'en est allé 😔
     
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    Say Magoose, could you tell us what's the opinion of Bakshi on DreamWorks? He is a man who was trying to push animation to be more than children's stuff, and DreamWorks has done that as well, though not in as extreme a manner as he's done.
     
    overmind said:
    Say Magoose, could you tell us what's the opinion of Bakshi on DreamWorks? He is a man who was trying to push animation to be more than children's stuff, and DreamWorks has done that as well, though not in as extreme a manner as he's done.
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    He's very much not a fan on a buissness level.
    But on a personal level he adores us
     
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