TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands.
To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.
I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.
I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.
I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all.
The press conference that was gathered around was something that you were not really expecting to gather in. Really, sports media and that stuff were in Carrie's Wheelhouse, but honestly, there was something that you would have to accept. Carrie was pregnant, and she wanted you to help her with it. Plus she said that "Everything will make sense."
But then you saw… Him. That bloated, cocky, arrogant New Yorker who gave new yorkers a bad name, and there were plenty of New Yorkers that could have that title. A man is interested in only his vanity, his love for money, status, and acclaim was something that made you sick to your stomach, without any, noticeable kindness for love and charity in his heart. A man who, your father, has invested a fortune and no small amount of effort into making miserable and protecting New York from his influence… but failed in some ways, and succeeded in others, especially with the saving and renovating of Coney Island.
Donald J. Trump. Head of the Trump Organization, and a famous New Yorker, known for his personality, his buildings, investments… and many other things you didn't even really know about. Or care about.
"Carrie, why is he here?" you grimaced as he sat down, smiling at you and waving to the media.
"He owns the New Jersey Generals." She whispered. "Why is that a problem?"
"That guy is nothing but trouble." You said.
"That's your father talking." She replied.
"My father is usually a good judge of character." You replied.
She then frowned. "I remember him hating Mike when he first met him. Then cooling off when he worked with him."
You frowned. "He's not perfect. But still, I don't like him."
"Well, you don't have to like him. You just have to tolerate him, and don't say anything stupid that will make people dissect your every word." She replied.
"But he's-"
"Like Mike?" She asked. "Or at least the idea of Mike before you got to know him?"
Damn, she really had you. "Maybe."
Then the man you distrusted by his story, walked over, and he had a smile on his face. "What's the problem with him?"
Then he realized who he was talking to. "Oh, you're Joseph's son."
"I am." You replied.
"I knew he liked to have winners and you're the winningest one of them all."
You frowned. "Excuse me?"
"You and your brother and sister all found success in Hollywood, in whatever you put your minds to, but you were the one who found that greatest success. You're going to love working with me. I promise you that." He said, as he then excused himself back to his team.
He wasn't bad… but he rubbed you the wrong way.
But maybe he might be interesting and competent enough to win… maybe.
Carrie then laughed. "He likes you."
"Likes me?" You asked.
"Yeah, I met him a few days ago, and he's…" She paused. "Interesting. He didn't try to make himself into the topic of conversation while talking and he complimented you."
You frowned. "I don't think he likes me, if anything, he dislikes me."
"You let your father cloud you, I saw how annoyed you were getting." She said. "Donald doesn't choose his words well and likes to anger people."
You frowned. "Why?"
"He wants to win, and be successful, and will let no one forget when he succeeds."
Then David Dixon appeared and everyone began clapping. "Thank you everyone. When I formed this league, I did so in the perseverance and love of Football. We came to this, to give Football a new life in the spring. This is the culmination of this experiment, to put the product on the field to make it the best football that anyone can see.
Many people here think that this will not work, but I refuse that notion of the more pessimistic notion. We have veteran sports owners like Carrie O'Brian, who has already proved the wish for championship glory and the building of great teams. We have a group of owners who will see this vision through. Players who are the best in the world coming to play with us…"
He then waited for the applause to finish. "This is the United States Football League."
Reward: Thanks to many many backroom deals with Carrie helping out drawing in some of her moms and her friends, the USFL has nationwide coverage for all the games, in the Spring…
Donald has proven himself to be an incredibly popular public (Ownership) face of the league because he is happily arrogant, and brash, and has proclaimed "He was going to win the championship this year."
The Ownership that met with Carrie and David are far more likely to follow the league rules and prevent overspending, especially since Carrie is not willing to open her pocketbook any more than she already has to find owners who love the game.
The USFL, barring an act of God or arrogance from within… might be the next big thing.
AN: Going to be honest with this one, I kinda got a little... board writing it. Like I wasn't as excited as I was to write it last night, and I feel like it kinda got...
@Magoose can you for fun when in the epilogue when we go for president make Donald Trump announce his so he can beat us due to his and our father rivalry
Okay, off to a good start. Now to see if the USFL can avoid it's OTL fate.
For those that don't know, the USFL got started based on David Dixon having the idea of 'If the NFL and Colleges only play in autumn and winter, that means there's a market for professional football in the spring and summer'. Apparently it was popular enough. But after a few seasons, they decided to try and directly compete against the NFL by switching the start of their season to autumn instead of spring. Things happened and ultimately the USFL did not survive past 1986.
Great stuff overall! Really excited for the start of the USFL and to see how the League unfolds the rest of the 80s. With how tumultuous the NFL was in this period, there's lots of great opportunities to establish the USFL as a rival and mainstay. Pretty awesome.
Also I had a great idea for that Olympic demonstration game I was theorizing. Maybe we can have an internal game with either the Championship taking place there or it could perhaps be a post-season game of sorts where the teams who lost in the Conference Finals play for bronze, that way none of the champions are hurt and there's still half a year to recover.
I'll try to make a comprehensive list of teams, weeding out the USFL teams who came from shifting ownership and the ones whose owners were completely and cartoonishly incompetent.
So @Magoose considering the Nat 100, there's a couple of potential developments that might change at play. Here's the list from Wikipedia:
The owners of the USFL's San Diego franchise, cable television moguls Bill Daniels and Alan Harmon, were denied a lease for Jack Murphy Stadium. While this was in part due to pressure from the Chargers, the main opposition came from Major League Baseball's Padres who held the lease to the stadium at the time and did not want to see football played at the facility throughout the baseball season.
The League's Boston franchise, the Breakers, also had stadium problems. The Boston ownership group wanted to play in Harvard Stadium, but were unable to close a deal with the university; Sullivan Stadium was owned by the New England Patriots, who were unwilling to share their venue with a rival, while Fenway Park was being used in the spring by the Boston Red Sox and was also unavailable, and Alumni Stadium on the campus of Boston College, for reasons never made public, also declined. Finally they were able to negotiate a lease to play at Nickerson Field on the campus of Boston University, a facility that seated only 21,000 people.
There were plans to establish four franchises in Canada prior to the inaugural season, located in Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal and the Toronto/Hamilton metroplex (with the last of these to play at Ivor Wynne Stadium).[7] The proposal was pushed by John F. Bassett, the Canadian who would go on to own the Tampa Bay Bandits USFL team. However, Senator Keith Davey warned that the Canadian government would act to protect the Canadian Football League (the league in which in all four of the aforementioned Canadian cities had teams in) from competition. The Canadian Football Act had been proposed, but not approved, when Bassett had tried to establish the Toronto Northmen in the World Football League in 1974. Such legislation would have banned US football leagues from playing in Canada. In particular, Montreal's CFL team, the Concordes, was on precarious financial ground, having just been established to replace the recently folded Alouettes. This led Bassett to drop the idea.[8]
TLDR: There could have been a team in San Diego but the Padres didn't want to share their stadium. The Boston Breakers had absolute shit luck finding a stadium from the local areas and had to settle for a Boston U stadium which only had 21,000 seats. Four Canadian teams could have been added but some Canadian politicans raised hell to protect the Canadian Football League.
You said you didn't know what new fields to expand into and I'm asking for you to define your terms and what constitutes a "field" for the sake of clarification and so the thread can potentially help you. By field, do you mean other sports, other kinds of entertainment, or maybe other businesses entirely? What "fields" are we already engaged in according to your definition? If you don't even know what you're referring to when you say a "field," then why even say it at that point?
I think that having a LA sports team in all the major sports would be great. Even better when you can make a communal training facility that is utterly world class for all of them.
You said you didn't know what new fields to expand into and I'm asking for you to define your terms and what constitutes a "field" for the sake of clarification and so the thread can potentially help you. By field, do you mean other sports, other kinds of entertainment, or maybe other businesses entirely? What "fields" are we already engaged in according to your definition? If you don't even know what you're referring to when you say a "field," then why even say it at that point?
Karateka is a classic side-scrolling fighter developed by Jordan Mechner during college, a project that he outright admits contributed to his lower-than-expected grades. In our timeline, it achieved massive success, becoming the highest-selling game immediately following the video game crash.
The game's premise is straightforward: the evil villain Akuma has kidnapped Princess Mariko, and you play as a nameless hero fighting through a series of foes to rescue her. Despite its simplicity, Karateka was revolutionary for its time, standing out among early 1980s games like Pong and Pac-Man for even attempting to tell a story.
Karateka utilised a blend of silent storytelling techniques, cutscenes, and dynamic camera angles to create a movie-like experience. Though a 2D side-scroller, it featured a two-layered background with parallax scrolling to provide the illusion of depth while rotoscoped characters delivered an unprecedented level of realism and fluid movement. The narrative was conveyed through scrolling text panels and scenes reminiscent of silent films.
The controls were simple six buttons and two stances allowed a literally unprecedented variety of actions. The "Run" stance allowed your character to move faster, navigate timed traps, and bow in respect before a fight, which would be reciprocated by your opponent, but it also made you vulnerable to one-hit deaths. "Fight" provided a karate stance with crouched posture and low, medium, and high punches or kicks and movement back and forward to dance in and out of range.
The game featured health counters displayed on each side of the screen, representing the player's and the opponent's health. These counters slowly regenerated over time, and depleting the opponent's health bar would knock them out.
Foes consisted of guards in a variety of helmets, the hawk, and the final boss himself Akuma, a large armoured figure who was the master of the castle. Characters were defined by headgear which where tied to different combat ai's and maximum health levels.
Notable Easter eggs included humorous ways to fail, such as stepping off the edge of a platform that the cutscene had just had you climb up. Additionally, the reverse side of the disk contained a fully functional copy of the game with flipped sprites and controls.
For the time the games graphics where cutting edge, its story never before seen , its movement impossibly fluid. Many developments in later games that would go on to become troupes and staples across fighting games and even video games where first seen in karateka, things like the side on view, health bars on each side of the screen, the high medium and low attacks and even having a plot at all can arguably be traced back to this game.
Krateka simple as it was changed what people thought was possible for games.
Prince of Persia is Jordans second adventure. Again drawing inspiration form moves Jordan cites one thousand and one nights,Raiders of the lost ark and The adventures of Robin Hood as inspirations. Like its predecessor, Prince of Persia again uses rotoscoping for lifelike movements and fluidity. The Prince's sprite is larger and thanks to the addition of verticality to the game has a much greater range of movements possible. For the time, it was unmatched, and its movements hold up surprisingly well today.
Aiding the realism, Prince has only a slightly superhuman move set, being able to jump high enough to reach the floor above to pull himself up, and any significant fall either costs health or is outright fatal.
The game is a two hand a half D, metroidvainia light arranged into a series of ten sequential levels with a semi-isometric design with some art assets features to give the illusion of depth.
Each Level consisted of rooms connected on horizontal and vertical levels with blockages, switches, gates, Hazards, guards and traps, creating a movement puzzle aimed at providing a unique but interconnected puzzle and narrative experience. The story is a simple escape from the dungeon while defeating the Evil Vizir Jafar and rescuing the princess narrative. Like Karateka movie, troupes are again used to enhance a story and a reaction from the player.
The story is told through cutscenes and in Level pre-scripted events interspaced with gameplay, which invoke a cycle of tension and payoff. For example, in the first Level, the Prince starts by being thrown into the dungeon, unarmed, with a guard between him and the door. A sword can be obtained by going deeper into the dungeon and evading traps, which the Prince can then use to defeat the guard and go to the next Level.
The rest of the game repeats this cycle of building tension and payoff with an effort to make the player feel narratively connected to the character on screen. Hints on the way forward can be found during cutscenes or glimpses at different elevations as the Prince traverses the Level.
Shadow man, the foe created by passing through a magic mirror, that through the game has been taking health boosting potions before you can get to them, closing doors and seemingly spitefully blocking your progress, is finally faced on one of the last levels. To many player's dismay, damage to Shadow Man simultaneously damaged the player's health. The trick to defeating him was to put the sword away, a seemingly useless ability of the Prince that was probably discovered at an inopportune moment during a swordfight. Putting the sword away has Shadow Man doing the same thing and the Prince and Shadow Man reuniting, giving Prince all the gains Shadow Man collected and leaving you in the best possible health to go on and face the vizier.
Prince of Persia Pushed the limits of what the Apple II could do, operating at the limits of the Machines capacity to operate and is often considered the last great game of the Apple II. The game was successful enough to spawn a direct sequel a year Later and gain Jordan an invitation to reboot the franchise, resulting in the Sands of Time games, movie and eventually the Assassins Creed series of games.
Itl changes.
Jordan stated that the rotoscoping was the most challenging part of the programming and took significant time. With Lucasfilm Digital Cameras and expertise, the rotoscoping should no longer take the vast majority of Jordan's development time, allowing for speedier releases.
Gavin's coding should also allow for far more impressive cutscenes and more material to be put on disk, such as the planned but never implemented level editor, extending the game's Lifespan and community in the modding scene.
ITL's connection with Lucasfilm offers an exciting option. Reusing and optimising the game engine for Movie tie in games, similar to how the later SCUMM engine went on to power multiple point-and-click adventures, including Maniac Mansion, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Loom, The Secret of Monkey Island, and Day of the Tentacle.
A complete game could be put together relatively quickly with official art assets for appropriate Lucasfilm movies. Mike might be happily surprised at sales as people who buy ROTJ for Apple 2 automatically have a machine to play the game and relive the excitement in a new way.
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi.
Programmer: Jordan Mechiner
Level design and art assets: Lucasfilm and off duty Lucasfilm employees competing on who can make the best levels.
Licensed game
Return of the Jedi is a licensed game to be released as one of the many merchandising opportunities coinciding with the movie's release. The plot is Loosely based on the movie, with stages added and foreshortened to enhance the gaming experience.
Taking advantage of Gavin's programming to allow more sprites and higher density graphics, Return of the Jedi is a minor evolution reusing the same basic engine, allowing a relatively quick development as much of the hard work in developing an engine and a workflow to populate it is done, leaving the programming team to focus on small improvements code optimisation and level design and game polish.
Art and character swaps.
The Prince is replaced by Luke Skywalker, and his sword is replaced with the lightsaber.
Characters using melee weapons are replaced with Star Wars equivalents, such as Tusken raiders, Gamoran guards, and Red Guards.
Four and a half different graphics styles covering different locations are the Tatooine exterior, Forest exterior, Imperial interior, and a slightly modified Prince of Persia interior. The half is transition pieces and greebles to adapt a tile set to a different location.
All other traps, doors, chomp traps, spikes and so on are changed for appropriate in-universe changes eg. In the Imperial tile set, doors are blast doors similar to the docking bay hangar, spike traps are electrical traps on the floor, and Chomp traps are Red energy Gates similar to those seen in episode one.
New features.
"Boss" enemies that require environmental features to take down. More puzzle and platforming challenges than direct combat. Examples include the rancour, Sarlacc tentacles, AT-ST and Gorax.
Foes with the ability to shoot blaster bolts, which, with good timing, can be parried into the roof, floor or back at the guards. Smugglers, Stormtroopers, Scout Troopers
Levels
Luke enters Jabba's palace and uses the environment to avoid traps and guards before confronting Jabba, falling into the pit, luring the Rancor into a door, and killing it. Luke and his friends are taken on a skiff to be executed. Prince of Persia tile set Colour changed for Jabbas palace interior, and Colour changed Imperial for Certain feaures.
Jumping off the skiff takes Luke to the Tatooine desert exterior and a stage dodging and destroying Sarlacc's tentacles in enviromatal puzzles. Success gets Luke to a position where R2 can Give him his lightsaber. The lightsaber allows him to fight his way back and to Jabba's barge. Tatooine desert Exterior, small use of Jababs palace interior for Shelters where Luke can hide from tentacles.
Jabbas Barge, Jabbas Palace decorations over recolored imperial tilset for the interior and Tatooine exterior. The boss fight is reflecting Bolts against flying Boba Fett,
Endor forest. A small amount of Imperial interior to represent starship insides, otherwise forest exterior, Foes scout troopers, Boss battle against Gorax.
Forest exterior, Prince of Persia tile set for Gorax castles, Additonal Gorax hunt to secure Ewoks as allies.
Forest and imperial tileset, Raiding imperial Bunker, stormtroopers scout troopers and AT-ST as boss.
Imperial tileset. Death Star infiltration, reuse Sarlacc tentacle as boss reminiscent of trash compactor scene, stormtroopers and red guards.
Fight through Death Star to reach Darth Vader and the Emperor. Duel Vader put Saber away to win.
Duel in the throneroom as Vader against the emprorer as Boss, the emprorer shoots lighting that can be blocked but is only vulnerable when moved towards specific parts of Level.
Escape the Death Star and funeral and victory celebration on Tatooine. There are no traps, but there are more cinematic triggers.
Failing to get through the levels within the time limit or dying has the rebel fleet attacking without you and getting destroyed. The Emperor laughs in the throne room after receiving news of your demise. Depending on which Level the player dies on, the Emperor makes a different mocking comment. The Goal is to make the player VERY motivated to strike Vader down so you can kill the Emperor, which, beyond being a tough fight gives a bad alternate ending where Luke joins the Emperor.
Each Level should use either film footage to extend the story or pixel art, both of which should be within the capabilities of Gavin's coding.
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Here it is, the next step on my quest to make sure that Jordan Mechiner Gets Some credit ITL for Prince of Persia and has a career with Lucasfilm.
If all goes well Mike might see a boost in merch sales and may become quite enthusiastic about Lucasarts.
Steve Jobs will probably like us also for encouraging sales for the Apple 2
Arizona Wranglers
Owner: Ted Diethrich Home Stadium: Sun Devil Stadium
Denver Gold
Home Stadium: Mile High Stadium Owner: Ron Blanding
Los Angeles Fighting Geese
Home Stadium: Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum Owner: Carrie O'Brian
Oakland Invaders
Home Stadium: Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Owners: Jim Joseph, Ted Taube
San Diego Devil Dogs
Owner: Bill Daniels, Alan Hartman Home Stadium: Marine Stadium
Central Division
Chicago Blitz
Owner: J. Walter Duncan Home Stadium:
Houston Roughnecks
Owner: Dr. Jerry Argovitz Home Stadium: Astrodome
Oklahoma Outlaws
Owner: William Tatham Sr. Home Stadium: Owen Field
New Orleans Musketeers
Owner: Daryl Dixon Home Stadium: Superdome
Eastern Conference Atlantic Division
Boston Breakers
Owner: George Matthews, Randy Vataha Home Stadium: Schaefer Stadium
Michigan Panthers
Owner: A. Alfred Taubman
Home Stadium: Pontiac Silverdome
New Jersey Generals
Owner: Donald Trump Home Stadium: Giants Stadium
Philadelphia Stallions
Owner: Myles Tanenbaum Home Stadium: Veterans Stadium
Pittsburgh Maulers
Owner: Edward J. DeBartolo Sr.
Home Stadium: Three Rivers Stadium
Southern Division
Birmingham Vulcans
Owner: Marvin L. Warner
Home Stadium: Legion Field
Jacksonville Bulls:
Owner: Fred Bullard Home Stadium: Gator Bowl
Memphis Showboats
Owner: Logan Young, William Dunavant, Elvis Presley Home Stadium: Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium
Tampa Bay Bandits
Owner: John F. Bassett Home Stadium: Tampa Stadium
Notes on Changes and important team stuff:
Arizona Wranglers owner Ted Diethrich OTL was the owner of the Chicago Blitz, but only because their original owner J. Walter Duncan had to take over the Generals in the first season because Trump backed out. With Trump in full support, Duncan owns the Blitz, and as such Diethrich who was an owner through all three seasons, will sponsor the Arizona Wranglers. The Wranglers were originally a creation of Jim Joseph who was supposed to co-own the Invaders. Diethrich is a heart surgeon who love Arizona, so Arizona still gets a team.
Denver Gold are pretty much the same, but much better off financially thanks to Carrie support.
Carrie and the Geese are a very important divergence that basically create the Pacific Division and help to stave off the League's failure because the Los Angeles Express was a shithole. One of the most important objectives for the USFL was to have an LA based team, which Carrie accomplishes easily. Something also amazing is that we easily have the Memorial Coliseum and it's 90,000 seats to host the Geese while the Rams have to make do with shitty Angels Stadium and less seating capacity
Jim Joseph and Ted Taube were originally slated to both be co-owners for the Oakland Invaders, but LA's hot potato ownership lead to Joseph forming the Wranglers. Here he stays with Ted, which isn't a bad thing as they're both friends.
So San Diego was always a priority city for the USFL, but they were never able to break into the market thanks to stubborn resistance from the Padres and Chargers. Here Carrie is able to work out her charisma and pocket books to have a San Diego based team by constructing a new football based stadium in San Diego. Its owners owned the Los Angeles Express briefly because they were media moguls, but here are committed to San Diego. As for why they are the Devil Dogs. To play off the Marine base Camp Pendleton and to make themselves rivals of the Fighting Geese.
The Chicago Blitz stay owned by J. Walter Duncan due to Trump being committed to the Generals.
Since Houston was a top market, it still gets a team despite Dixon favoring New Orleans. I decided to add the Roughnecks as a guilty pleasure because I love them, they deserve to play in a fantastic league and it makes a hell of a lot more sense to synergize with Oilers than Gamblers.
The Outlaws thanks to the nat 100 instead of playing in the crappy Skelly Stadium play in Owen Field which hosts the Sooners.
Daryl Dixon had wanted to lead an USFL team for himself and had reserved a spot in the league makeup, but got so fed up with the League he quit and had his team become the Houston Gamblers. Here, with the nat 100, Dixon goes ahead and forms his own team. I have no idea what he would have gone with, I just chose Musketeers for synergy with Saints.
The Boston Breakers become roomates with the Patriots in Schaefer Stadium. OTL the owners for some reason refused to play in Schaefer on principle, so here they strike a deal with the Patriots to play in the spring, meaning a whole lot more potential for fans.
Michigan Panthers should be the same as OTL.
Trump stays with the Generals from the beginning.
So OTL, the Philly team was the Philadelphia Stars, but they originally wanted to be the Philadelphia Stallions in honor of Rocky Balboa as the Italian Stallion. They lost that to the Birmingham Stallions and had to settle for Stars, but I think with Carrie here she would be in full support of the Stallions being in Philadelphia due to her friendship with Stallone, so I guess in the Rockyverse, Rocky owns a football team, lol.
Pittsburgh Maulers are same as OTL.
So OTL and probably TTL, there was a team in the minor league World Football League called the Birmingham Vulcans. They are defunct by now, but I think without the Stallion iconography, Warner would want to use the Vulcans. Both to honor a local team, and for some easy media attention thanks to the Star Trek-Star Wars rivalry so Vulcan-Geese games are a humorous extension of that in Gridiron.
Jacksonville Bulls remain the same.
The Memphis Showboats are the same, but I think there's a decent chance that Carrie could convince Elvis to invest and he'd think it'd be a fun way to give back to the community and make money after he retires. So I put Elvis as a co-owner who invests funds and licenses his music while hyping the team.
I really like this update, it gives the world more depth. It must be hard to research the owners OTL due to them shuffling club ownership like they're a deck of cards and that almost no-one has a wiki page.
On stadiums I think Carrie got away with the largest stadium in the league with a cap of 93,000+ seats. But even the smallest stadium is no smaller then 50,000. So no shitty 20,000 cap stadiums for this league sir.
On location we got a couple places where there're no NFL teams like Birmingham, Jacksonville, Oakland (Go screw yourself Al Davis) and Memphis (take that Nashville!) but we also decided to park in markets with already an NFL team perhaps due to necessity for a good stadium so I hope they stay alive and won't move (though I think that's bound to happen). Thinking about it again, the idea to play at the same time as the NFL has become an even worse idea. Why would the NFL agree to a merger when many cities will have 2 football teams and LA would have 3! No wonder it failed.
Here Carrie is able to work out her charisma and pocket books to have a San Diego based team by constructing a new football based stadium in San Diego.
So does Carrie own the stadium , the Devil Dogs or some hybrid ownership? If the Devil Dogs, then that makes them the only team to own their home stadium.
They lost that to the Birmingham Stallions and had to settle for Stars, but I think with Carrie here she would be in full support of the Stallions being in Philadelphia due to her friendship with Stallone, so I guess in the Rockyverse, Rocky owns a football team, lol.
So OTL and probably TTL, there was a team in the minor league World Football League called the Birmingham Vulcans. They are defunct by now, but I think without the Stallion iconography, Warner would want to use the Vulcans. Both to honor a local team, and for some easy media attention thanks to the Star Trek-Star Wars rivalry so Vulcan-Geese games are a humorous extension of that in Gridiron.
The Memphis Showboats are the same, but I think there's a decent chance that Carrie could convince Elvis to invest and he'd think it'd be a fun way to give back to the community and make money after he retires. So I put Elvis as a co-owner who invests funds and licenses his music while hyping the team.
Something also amazing is that we easily have the Memorial Coliseum and it's 90,000 seats to host the Geese while the Rams have to make do with shitty Angels Stadium and less seating capacity
Fun fact: He bought his son Edward J. DeBartolo Jr. the 49ers. So we got a fun father-son duo in american football.
Here's my tierlist on the logo's. If someone is intrested. In general I like them all except for the Breakers, I don't understand their logo combined with their name. Like how water waves breaks stuff or something IDK. Also sometimes I get confused with Bandits and Outlaws so one of them is most likely going to change their theming.
In general I like them all except for the Breakers, I don't understand their logo combined with their name. Like how water waves breaks stuff or something IDK. Also sometimes I get confused with Bandits and Outlaws so one of them is most likely going to change their theming.
