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    • Magoose said:
    Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

    So we have some bad news.

    The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

    I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
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    TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

    To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

    I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

    I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

    I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

    I'll see you all around.

    With so many regards, Duke William Of.
     
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    • McLuvin said:
    Okay, to give you a brief overview of the conflict over Lovecrafts works.

    There's R.H Barlow, who Lovecraft intended to gain the rights but was never actually put into his will before he died. Resulting in Barlow being given control over the rights by Lovecrafts aunt. However he was a writer, not a lawyer, and was not technically the owner specified in the Will.

    August Derleth helped Lovecraft, came up with the name 'Cthulhu Mythos', and after Lovecrafts death published some of his works, or republished them in volume collections. It became unclear where Derleth's contributions ended, and how his republications and publications affected the rights to Lovecrafts works. Due to the unclear status of Barlow's claim, Derleth tried to essentially carve away a huge chunk of Lovecrafts works for his own.

    Donald Wandrei was Derleth's co-conspirator in the republications of Lovecrafts works. Neither Derleth or Wandrei were malicious, they wanted to keep Lovecrafts works alive, hence the republications. But he also used these publications and republications to try and lay claim to parts of Lovecrafts works. Some for himself, some in conjunction with Derleth.

    They created Arkham publishing iirc, and then brought the Weird Tales magazine where most of Lovecrafts works had originally been published. This essentially raised the question of how much ownership Weird Tales had over these stories, as well as Derleth and Wandrei. Essentially creating a triple conglomerate of separate but interconnected ownership claims over multiple different stories that fought with Barlow for control. The disputed eventually coming down to 'who owns which story, name, character, etc'.

    Basically take how Lord of the Rings is split between Amazon owning the Appendix, Warner Bros owning the rest of both books, Games Workshop owning the game licence and the Tolkien estate technically owning parts of all of them. And then make it twenty times more complicated.

    Because there's a third faction involved.

    Remember Lovecrafts aunt? Technically she is the beneficiary as Lovecraft never managed to add Barlow to his will. She supported Barlow's claim even though her own was legally stronger.

    When she died her kids inherited her claim.

    Ethel Morris and Edna Lewis proceeded to inherit their aunts claim in the 50's, then switch sides to Derleth and Wandrei and the Arkham Publishing group. However there's another twist, far from just supporting Arkham Publishing, they in fact claimed that they themselves owned the entirety of Lovecrafts copyrighted works, and they were just renting them out to Arkham, complete rejecting Barlow's claims and Derleth and Wandrei's own claims of partial co-ownership.

    This all got so messy that, by the time it came to renew the copyright, no one could even remember the time limit was up, or who was supposed to control what, which resulted in the Library of Congress getting involved and saying the deadline was likely missed, putting much of Lovecrafts works in the public domain in the 2000's. However the works published after his death are still copyrighted, and the dispute as to who owns then still simmers to this day.
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    Mmm, you know there might be a Pitch somewhere in here.

    In between all the backstabbing and politicking and inheritance law…there's love.

    For me to explain I need to tell you why the 90's is when it is safe for us to try and make a deal with the Arkham group and Morris-Lewis estate for Lovecrafts works.

    Barlow was not a lawyer, he was not a businessman, he was an author, he was a friend.

    He spent a good deal of time, money and passion trying to guard his claim on Lovecrafts work, to protect his ideas and stories.

    Derleth and Wandrei built an organisation.

    They outlasted Barlow, and his estate, after the two men died, what they built just kept moving, kept fighting, and Barlow's estate couldn't. It didn't give up their claim, but they couldn't fight the juggernaut Arkham became after Morris and Lewis somewhat switched sides. Time, and fate, was against Barlow.

    And maybe you see a story of a friend being betrayed and his hopes of protecting someone dear to him's legacy destroyed by greed.

    But while Morris and Lewis were in it for the money from what I can tell, Derleth and Wandrei did what they did out of love.

    They wanted Lovecrafts works to stay alive, to continue, to not fade into obscurity. They created the organisation that outlasted Barlow because they knew it would be able to outlast them. And it carried Lovecraft into the 80's and 90's where he saw a renaissance in appreciation for his works begin that's carried into the modern day.

    They used unscrupulous means, but they wanted Lovecrafts works to be shared with the world. Which is what the man himself wanted, he regularly allowed, and even encouraged, others to use locations, names and elements of his work, he even tutored two of the three men (Derleth and Barlow) in how to write, and encouraged them to write works based out of the Cthulhu Mythos universe.

    Barlow had initially tried to keep Lovecraft alive by having his works saved in Brown University library.

    As I said before, he wasn't a lawyer of businessman.

    It's an interesting tale, Barlow not knowing how to keep Lovecrafts works alive, even as he has the moral high ground in the conflict. And Derleth and Wandrei almost certainly lied, cheated and stole from the estate and commercialised it. But in doing so they ensured Lovecraft survived, and eventually prospered.

    By the time of the 90's, Arkham had mostly sidelined Barlow, their main conflict was with the Lewis-Morris estate, a battle they continued to postpone via an uneasy truce where they had to share profits.

    But Arkham created Call of Cthulhu, tried to licence movies which referenced Lovecrafts works, encouraged writers to add to the 'canon' Cthulhu Mythos and much more. Making sure Lovecrafts works became imprinted on the public consciousness, long after Derleth and Wandrei were dead.

    It's almost tragic. They all wanted the same thing, but couldn't reconcile their ideas on how to go about it.
     
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    Star Wars Production Finale
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    • Star Wars Production Finale:

    -[X]The Final Day: You set down the Camera and looked at George, to ask him "Are you okay?" Rolled:D100 => 100

    George was sitting near the end of the steps, and he watched everyone leave for the plane to take them home.

    You and George both looked at each other and then you smiled. "You okay?" You asked.

    "I thought that I was going to hate every moment of this." He said. "But I didn't."

    "How so?"

    "Everyone believed in it. I believe in it, and I think that was what mattered. I wasn't seen as crazy for… having faith in my own worth."

    "Oh don't be sap George." You smiled. "I had faith. So… you were never in this alone."

    George gave you a hug, and you returned it.

    Reward: George has gotten through a stress-free (mostly) Production.

    And it's going to be a wonderful thing to go home.

    Unknown Effect on George. But expect him to take the reigns in the next film... possibly.
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    -[X]The Droids You are Looking For: Anthony and Kenny are trying to make things interesting, and you haven't had a chance to spend time with them to get to know them. Rolled:D100 => 20

    Anthony and Kenny were already on their way home when you tried to talk to them. The filming was enough, and while they left some goodbye notes, they were happy production was over.

    Failure.
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    -[X]The Princess: Carrie just had one more scene before she was sent back home, with all of them done. She just wanted to make it right. Rolled:D100 => 12

    Carrie left a note for you, as you were going to be on the last plane home with the film with George.

    "Mom's sick, don't know what it is, going home early to make sure she's okay, and make sure Todd is okay.

    I'll see you soon.

    I love you."    ​

    I know.

    Failure: Carrie had to leave for home to care for Debbie coming down with something.

    Hopefully, they are both alright.
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    Production:D100 - 40 => 0

    Final Directing Roll:D100 + 30 + 40-5 => 165

    It was done without issue.

    The only thing that needed to be done, was for George and Marcia to Edit it.

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    Completed Rolls (First Round):

    Mark Hamil SP:D100 + 160 + 50 => 308
    Carrie Fisher SP:D100 + 160 + 40 => 274
    Toshiro Mifune SP:D100 + 160 + 50 => 254
    Bruce O'Brian SP: D100 + 160 + 130 => 328
    David Prowse SP:D100 + 160 => 231+50 (James Earl Jones Voice)=281
    Anthony Danials SP:D100 + 160 => 209
    Kenny Baker SP:D100 + 160 => 231
    Peter Mayhew SP:D100 + 160 => 214
    Peter Cushing SP:D100 + 160 + 40 => 299
    Background Actors SP:D100 + 160 => 240
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    Chemistry:

    Mark/Kenny:D100 + 160 + 50 => 220
    Mark/Carrie: D100 + 160 + 50 => 287
    Mark/Bruce:D100 + 160 + 50 => 294
    Mark/Mifune: D100 + 160 + 50 => 293
    Mark/Anthony:D100 + 160 + 50 => 224
    Mark/Peter Mayhew:D100 + 160 + 50 => 255
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    Carrie/BruceD100 + 160 + 30 => 290
    Carrie/Mifune: D100 + 160 + 50 => 214
    Carrie/David:D100 + 160 + 30 => 243
    Carrie/Anthony: D100 + 160 + 30 => 225
    Carrie/Kenny:D100 + 160 + 30 => 206
    Carrie/Peter Cushing:D100 + 160 + 40 => 280
    Carrie/Peter Mayhew:D100 + 160 + 30 => 240
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    Bruce/Peter Mayhew:D100 + 160 => 208
    Bruce/Mifune:D100 + 160 + 50 => 307
    Bruce/Anthony: D100 + 160 => 198
    Bruce/Kenny:D100 + 160 => 162
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    Anthony/Kenny:D100 + 160 => 214
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    David/Peter Cushing:D100 + 160 + 40 => 213
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    The VFX: D100 + 100 + 50 => 249

    The SFX: D100 + 100 + 50 => 249

    The Score:D100 => 96 (Bonuses do not matter, you have John Williams)=???

    Location:D100+40 => 111
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    Honestly…

    You were damn certain that this would be the best film ever made.

    George thinks it is.

    And you do too.

    Do you attempt to Get Reshoots done? (Will reroll all actors SP, and give them the highest roll):
    []Yes
    []No
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    AN: Oh.


    UM... See you in a bit.
     
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    • I didn't know what to put for the LONDON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA Bonus.

    So... John's contribution shall remain a ???

    But its going to be a decent one.
     
    I like that the highest chemistry is Bruce and Mifune. It'll lead to years of fan theories and stories involving Obi-Wan and Han Solo.
     
    [X]No

    Jesus Christ! This mvie is not the one that will put us on the map, this movies is the one that will put us in the History Books! When people speak of Film Perfection they will speak about Star Wars! Forget catching "Lightning in a Bottle". We caught a "Storm inside a House". Everyone in Hollywood is going to regret ever thinking George could't do a movie.

    I can't wait to see what the copycats try.
     
    [X]No

    Gentlemen to say we struck gold is a disservice to the movie we went to platinum and beyond for we have shot towards the moon and not only did we land among the stars but we are the brightest.
     
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