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Dragon Ball: After the End

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[X] Ranged. Your skill with ki refinement is still limited, and you'll only be able to keep it up when blasting. You'll contribute best this way.
-[X] Do your best to support the fighters on the ground. Knock the dragon about and impede his mobility; use your blasts to limit his options and give Dad and Yammar openings.
-[X] Warn the others about his apparent straight-up mind-reading, and the possibility that he absorbs ki - be on the lookout for him doing so, so we can adapt tactics as necessary.
 
[X] Ranged. Your skill with ki refinement is still limited, and you'll only be able to keep it up when blasting. You'll contribute best this way.
-[X] Do your best to support the fighters on the ground. Knock the dragon about and impede his mobility; use your blasts to limit his options and give Dad and Yammar openings.
-[X] Warn the others about his apparent straight-up mind-reading, and the possibility that he absorbs ki - be on the lookout for him doing so, so we can adapt tactics as necessary.

[EDIT: sigh, nevermind. I was specifically curious what would happen, simply because a relatively low-energy piercing ki ray attack would be a smarter strategy than a high-energy overwhelming blast that bats the dragon around, IF said dragon is a ki-absorber.]
 
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[X] Ranged. Your skill with ki refinement is still limited, and you'll only be able to keep it up when blasting. You'll contribute best this way.
-[X] Do your best to support the fighters on the ground. Knock the dragon about and impede his mobility; use your blasts to limit his options and give Dad and Yammar openings.
-[X] Warn the others about his apparent straight-up mind-reading, and the possibility that he absorbs ki - be on the lookout for him doing so, so we can adapt tactics as necessary.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Gore17 on Feb 17, 2018 at 12:18 AM, finished with 124 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Ranged. Your skill with ki refinement is still limited, and you'll only be able to keep it up when blasting. You'll contribute best this way.
    -[X] Do your best to support the fighters on the ground. Knock the dragon about and impede his mobility; use your blasts to limit his options and give Dad and Yammar openings.
    -[X] Warn the others about his apparent straight-up mind-reading, and the possibility that he absorbs ki - be on the lookout for him doing so, so we can adapt tactics as necessary.
    [X] Ranged. Your skill with ki refinement is still limited, and you'll only be able to keep it up when blasting. You'll contribute best this way.
    -[X] Do your best to support the fighters on the ground. Knock the dragon about and impede his mobility; use your blasts to limit his options and give Dad and Yammar openings.
    [X] Hand-to-hand. The dragon is already going to need to deal with two golden oozaru up close; you'll be able to exploit his focus on the others to get in good hits that way.
    -[X] Try to keep him on the ground. He probably won't be able to maneuver well without his wings in play.
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[X] Ranged. Your skill with ki refinement is still limited, and you'll only be able to keep it up when blasting. You'll contribute best this way.
-[X] Do your best to support the fighters on the ground. Knock the dragon about and impede his mobility; use your blasts to limit his options and give Dad and Yammar openings.
-[X] Warn the others about his apparent straight-up mind-reading, and the possibility that he absorbs ki - be on the lookout for him doing so, so we can adapt tactics as necessary.
 
Simon_Jester said:
[EDIT: sigh, nevermind. I was specifically curious what would happen, simply because a relatively low-energy piercing ki ray attack would be a smarter strategy than a high-energy overwhelming blast that bats the dragon around, IF said dragon is a ki-absorber.]
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Well, remember Poptart reads the thread and voter ideas/discussions influence updates even beyond the explicit vote. If you have any bright ideas, it's worth having them in text somewhere, even if you're not putting them in the vote itself.
 
rkyeun said:
That only applies to useless pride.
The kind of pride that turns your hair even bluer is fine.
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Don't forget the sparkles and old style shonen eyes... Vegeta literally became a Blue Prince.

What do people call that anyway? Super Saiyan Blue 2? I mean, it kind of makes sense since it has similar changes. Sharper hair, sparkles instead of lightning in the aura and rounder eyes instead of sharper ones
 
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Bakkasama said:
Don't forget the sparkles and old style shonen eyes... Vegeta literally became a Blue Prince.

What do people call that anyway? Super Saiyan Blue 2? I mean, it kind of makes sense since it has similar changes. Sharper hair, sparkles instead of lightning in the aura and rounder eyes instead of sharper ones
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Been a lot of names. It's semi-official name is currently Beyond Super Saiyan Blue, but I've seen a lot of nicknames, with a personal favourite being Royal Blue.
 
Gore17 said:
Been a lot of names. It's semi-official name is currently Beyond Super Saiyan Blue, but I've seen a lot of nicknames, with a personal favourite being Royal Blue.
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I think I like Blue 2 more. It keeps things simple and consistent given that the changes from Blue to Blue 2 are similar to the changes from SS to SS2 and the epiphany requirement of the transformation fits too

That said, not the thread for it so unto another subject. Since Tabe's trick is equivalent to increasing the tank's output and Jaffur's is decreasing the size of the muzzle, does that mean they can both be used at the same time?
 
Possibly, but they might work contrary to each other or struggle against each other. Like, it might be actively more difficult to deliver greater power from Tabe's Overdrive when one is specifically concentrating one's willpower to 'clamp down' and control that power precisely. Notice that Tabe's trick results in a lot of dazzling flashy 'leakage' of energy; you'd have to suppress all of that to stack it with Jaffur's Ki Refinement.

I think I like "Royal Blue" better than "Blue 2," if only because it's more evocative and specifically addresses the origins of the thing.
 
Get it to read Berra's mind while Berra is mind delving it and let the feedback loop build until one of their heads pops.

-but seriously, if Berra can manage it, even a minor mind delve would be invaluable. Not only would it give a better idea of what it's capable of, but this thing clearly knows an immense amount about a lot of things, including the Enemy.
 
I am not sure if trying to read the mind of a psichic of unknown capabilities is a wise idea. It can potentially do a lot of damage to Berra and then we would lose 1/4 of our fighters and the one who trained kaioken as a last resort.
 
Lailoken said:
Get it to read Berra's mind while Berra is mind delving it and let the feedback loop build until one of their heads pops.

-but seriously, if Berra can manage it, even a minor mind delve would be invaluable. Not only would it give a better idea of what it's capable of, but this thing clearly knows an immense amount about a lot of things, including the Enemy.
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Honestly I think it may be bluffing knowing anything about the Enemy. It knows we fear him, and knows what we know about him from reading our minds, and that's all.
 
There's no indication it hasn't taken a few minutes to skim through at least a few minds on the way down from orbit, and it is no doubt reading our minds as actively as reasonably possible.

It doesn't need to read hundreds of minds to identify our worst fear and throw it into an intimidating spiel.
 
[X] Ranged. Your skill with ki refinement is still limited, and you'll only be able to keep it up when blasting. You'll contribute best this way.
-[X] Do your best to support the fighters on the ground. Knock the dragon about and impede his mobility; use your blasts to limit his options and give Dad and Yammar openings.
-[X] Warn the others about his apparent straight-up mind-reading, and the possibility that he absorbs ki - be on the lookout for him doing so, so we can adapt tactics as necessary.
[X] [Ask] How powerful would be a massed Kamehameha from all the non-royals?
It might be to late to have a vote adjustment, but if this isn't the final vote of the fight, as one our last non-suicide strategies, We should try to IT the dragon into a massed Kamehameha.
 
Bakkasama said:
I am not sure if trying to read the mind of a psichic of unknown capabilities is a wise idea. It can potentially do a lot of damage to Berra and then we would lose 1/4 of our fighters and the one who trained kaioken as a last resort.
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We would definitely run the risk of something like "Counselor Troi vs Charles Xavier, Psychic Duel, GO" levels of outmatched.
 
Especially apt, considering that Troi's telepathic skills don't even extend to dueling.
[X] Ask your father if there is anyone who is particularily skilled at reading ki to determine emotions who could provide a live feed of the dragon's emotions.
who knows, there might be someone.
[X] Ask for Dandeer to be ready to try the forced masque trick on the dragon.
The wards probably don't need to be overly much actively mantained, and even if it doesn't work, it will probably require quite a bit of effort to shake off.
 
[X] Ask for Dandeer to be ready to try the forced masque trick on the dragon.
[X] Ask your father if there is anyone who is particularily skilled at reading ki to determine emotions who could provide a live feed of the dragon's emotions.
 
Cariyaga said:
[X] Ask for Dandeer to be ready to try the forced masque trick on the dragon.
[X] Ask your father if there is anyone who is particularily skilled at reading ki to determine emotions who could provide a live feed of the dragon's emotions.
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If you want to do fiddley things like that then you are going to want to seen our base multi form out to coordinate. Trying to do that in the middle of a fight would be death.
 
Bakkasama said:
Then mark it as [ASK] to avoid confusion, even if it isn't a tally by task.
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Eh, I just copypasted them.

[X][ASK] Ask for Dandeer to be ready to try the forced masque trick on the dragon.
[X][ASK] Ask your father if there is anyone who is particularily skilled at reading ki to determine emotions who could provide a live feed of the dragon's emotions.
 
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