Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
We need to use this for ki.
Dragon Ball: After the End
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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[X][FACE] ...you are hereditary nobility, your grandmother is the prior sitting Lady, your father is the sitting Lord, and you will yourself become Lady some day.
[X][ROLE] ...answer any questions directed to you. You have no address planned, but you will be prepared to field any questions they ask. Better to keep the focus on your father, but there's no reason to decline all questions.
[X][ROLE] ...answer any questions directed to you. You have no address planned, but you will be prepared to field any questions they ask. Better to keep the focus on your father, but there's no reason to decline all questions.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
We akready explained in our blog that ki has been around for centuries. The knowledge we have is actually older than the centuries we have been on the planet. So saying it is an ancient tradition is already better than us having researched it for centuries.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
True, we can go for at least a millennia if we draw from Kami, and for multiple millennia if we include King Kai. That guy is probably older than several millennia by himself.
EDIT: In fact, we can justify teaching only low levels of ki use as the things that are thoroughly researched. We can justify not giving the rest by basically saying the research groups are still not satisfied enough to present to the public.
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plotvitalnpc
Once more walking the path of the catgirl.
Muten Roshi is older than the split between Kami and Piccolo.
VicSage
Not Crazy
- Location
- Czechoslovakia
I still think the Heredetary Nobility might be pushing it. As much as it shows a tradition, it also doesn't work out so well if we specify our government to the world. Those who are monarchal would like us for the family, and those who are not because we didn't say we're a Princess.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
The Garenhulder ideas of "ancient research group" does mean that we don't have to explain why we have been hiding ki and the time. If we say "it was still in testing" they will likely all nod their heads and praise our caution.
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If need be "its safe for us to experiment" should be a simple enough sell. I mean if you're testing a new gun design you need to be worried it might explode even IRL, but if your super powers will let you take it exploding then it isn't as dangerous. Having super powers would also let you stress test things beyond the range a 'normal' person might need to worry about. That and being able to do things like fly out into space to test stuff...
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
... No? Garenhulders apparently have some manner of deeply ingrained cultural phobia towards it. Like, from what we know, you are suggesting 'well it's okay if I sin' levels of 'the culture will viscerally reject the idea' as a simple sell.
Claiming it's safe for us to experiment implies we are a group that experiments, and Garenhulders do not merely fear to experiment themselves, they fear and shun those being creative as mad lunatics who will destroy us all. Like, that's about as reassuring as spouting mad scientist clichés in earnest seriousness in context.
Well, it's mentioned that the accepted line for all the recent advances is because ancients groups have been toiling for centuries, safely away from where they could do any harm.
Revealing that we've been the ones behind it (true), with the implication we've been using our seemingly godlike abilities to ensure we're safe during said testing(not true), if believed, would introduce some interesting reactions.
Add in that were fighting an unknown alien threat, and that we can truthfully say they're not the first aliens to have come to the planet, and we could spin a story that we're the ones that protect them from the Unknown, ensuring the worlds safety.
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- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
... We aren't admitting to being aliens. We're hiding our existence as Saiyans, revealing only ki.
Oops, wrong word. That was supposed to be "they're".
Isn't that kinda unavoidable though? I mean Ki is getting revealed to the world and like it or not the we are all martial artists and its unavoidable that even if you're using an old well known style that you have to tweak it constantly for differences in your body as you grow and age let alone any initial differences you might have vs the creator of the style. The simple act of saying "we use Ki and master it though martial arts" is admitting to being a people who tinker way more than the rest of the planet in general.
Also its not like space is any more unknown to us than the farm land they grow food on. Being able to walk/fly to someplace and take a look with the Mk.1 eyeball kinda murders the shit out its mystery. Just look as the shit people thought about Mars and Venus right up until we started getting pictures back. It would just need the right spin.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
You are missing the point. Garenhulders clearly understand they can safely innovate within their own area of specialty, to a point, as they understand their specialty well enough to know rhey could do certain variants and it'd be obviously safe. But within Garenhulder culture, that's the kinda shit you admit to other masters of the field behind closed doors if at all. Existing Garenhulder martial arts masters- and we know from personal experience there are non-Saiyans doing such- almost certainly emphasize the 'this punch has a thousand years of tradition behind it' side and quietly sweep under the rug the pesky detail they don't do it exactly as their own teacher did.
Admitting to outsiders who don't know your field that you experiment, especially with pride in the idea and with a rapid testing cycle, is violating major taboos. You are proposing we pitch ourselves as dangerously reckless, hopelessly naive and strange, or unhinged lunatics, given cultural context. If we are lucky, such would be taken as a joke. It does not earn trust.
Fuck it
[X][FACE] ...you are hereditary nobility, your grandmother is the prior sitting Lady, your father is the sitting Lord, and you will yourself become Lady some day.
[X][ROLE] ...answer any questions directed to you. You have no address planned, but you will be prepared to field any questions they ask. Better to keep the focus on your father, but there's no reason to decline all questions.
[X][FACE] ...you are hereditary nobility, your grandmother is the prior sitting Lady, your father is the sitting Lord, and you will yourself become Lady some day.
[X][ROLE] ...answer any questions directed to you. You have no address planned, but you will be prepared to field any questions they ask. Better to keep the focus on your father, but there's no reason to decline all questions.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
You don't think that answering questions uses our stats?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
[X][ROLE] ...actively address the Congress. Your blog posts over the course of the year so far have achieved widespread recognition, your continued attendance at school has done a lot to normalize you in the public view, and you have a decent amount of capital. Plus, you're a thirteen-year-old girl; even by virtue of not being able to take you seriously, people won't think, "threat," when they look at you.
- Location
- USA
[X][FACE] ...you are hereditary nobility, your grandmother is the prior sitting Lady, your father is the sitting Lord, and you will yourself become Lady some day.
[X][ROLE] ...actively address the Congress. Your blog posts over the course of the year so far have achieved widespread recognition, your continued attendance at school has done a lot to normalize you in the public view, and you have a decent amount of capital. Plus, you're a thirteen-year-old girl; even by virtue of not being able to take you seriously, people won't think, "threat," when they look at you.
I'm pretty sure active address is winning right now, although I'm still worried that we're gonna take significant penalties for being a child. And that declaring ourself hereditary nobility may cause some problems on the Saiyan side of things
But as they say, "Fortune favors the bold" so we might as well go for it.
[X][ROLE] ...actively address the Congress. Your blog posts over the course of the year so far have achieved widespread recognition, your continued attendance at school has done a lot to normalize you in the public view, and you have a decent amount of capital. Plus, you're a thirteen-year-old girl; even by virtue of not being able to take you seriously, people won't think, "threat," when they look at you.
I'm pretty sure active address is winning right now, although I'm still worried that we're gonna take significant penalties for being a child. And that declaring ourself hereditary nobility may cause some problems on the Saiyan side of things
But as they say, "Fortune favors the bold" so we might as well go for it.
Not as much as setting the frame by actively addressing them.
[X][FACE] ...you are hereditary nobility, your grandmother is the prior sitting Lady, your father is the sitting Lord, and you will yourself become Lady some day.
[X][ROLE] ...actively address the Congress. Your blog posts over the course of the year so far have achieved widespread recognition, your continued attendance at school has done a lot to normalize you in the public view, and you have a decent amount of capital. Plus, you're a thirteen-year-old girl; even by virtue of not being able to take you seriously, people won't think, "threat," when they look at you.
[X][ROLE] ...actively address the Congress. Your blog posts over the course of the year so far have achieved widespread recognition, your continued attendance at school has done a lot to normalize you in the public view, and you have a decent amount of capital. Plus, you're a thirteen-year-old girl; even by virtue of not being able to take you seriously, people won't think, "threat," when they look at you.
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
- Location
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[X][FACE] ...you are hereditary nobility, your grandmother is the prior sitting Lady, your father is the sitting Lord, and you will yourself become Lady some day.
[X][ROLE] ...actively address the Congress. Your blog posts over the course of the year so far have achieved widespread recognition, your continued attendance at school has done a lot to normalize you in the public view, and you have a decent amount of capital. Plus, you're a thirteen-year-old girl; even by virtue of not being able to take you seriously, people won't think, "threat," when they look at you.
[X][ROLE] ...actively address the Congress. Your blog posts over the course of the year so far have achieved widespread recognition, your continued attendance at school has done a lot to normalize you in the public view, and you have a decent amount of capital. Plus, you're a thirteen-year-old girl; even by virtue of not being able to take you seriously, people won't think, "threat," when they look at you.
Do we though? Personally I mean. Because the teacher Kakara had with her human friends was specifically said to be a masked saiyan. There was also that bit in the innovation timeline in 312 GE about how how a car mechanic can be sued for malpractice for any deviation at all as a professional mechanic, and in 313 the act of slightly tweaking bridge plans, well the single bridge plan, to make them is described as insanely dangerous. This doesn't seem to be something that can be just swept away without having excuses prepared.