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[X] ...roll with it. Okay, let's see how thisturns out. When did this happen, and why were you not informed?

[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself someammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
 
[X] ...roll with it. Okay, let's see howthisturns out. When did this happen, and why were you not informed?

[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself someammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
 
Strange things, given that it would be a three-person fusion and one of them would be busy reveling in the temporary freedom and being the "KILL THE OPPRESSORS" voice in the resultant gestalt.
And now I know what I want out of this quest.

Yeah, I knew that recursion would be the absolute first thing on people's minds. :rolleyes:

Fortunately, you can only get it up to Exceptional via sheer grinding, so the madness has a limit. :D
A limit, you say? Incidentally, what would happen if we used multiform to fuse with ourselves? Shouldn't that make the resulting being far stronger than they were before?

[X] ...roll with it. Okay, let's see how this turns out. When did this happen, and why were you not informed?

[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
 
And now I know what I want out of this quest.

And now that I think about it, so do I. That sounds hilarious.

A limit, you say? Incidentally, what would happen if we used multiform to fuse with ourselves? Shouldn't that make the resulting being far stronger than they were before?

I...I...um-

As a GM, I would say it should just end the technique. Metaphysically that's probably better supported than it actually doing something useful.

That! Yes! Phew. Thank you, Aranfan. ;)
 
Guys, I think I want, next turn, to start studying the different styles so we can make our own style: A Pacifist Style.

You know, one that focuses on dodges, holds, baiting out wasteful attacks to exhaust the opponent faster than you'll be exhausted, ecetera.

I figure we'll need a good grounding in most of the styles to make a pacifist runner style that's really worth anything. I want to start with Roshi, then Krillin and Tenshinhan, then Yamcha, then Goku and Vegeta, then Piccolo and Gohan, then Future Trunks.

Yes, I want us to learn all the styles so that we can make a really good and useful pacifist style.
 
Guys, I think I want, next turn, to start studying the different styles so we can make our own style: A Pacifist Style.

You know, one that focuses on dodges, holds, baiting out wasteful attacks to exhaust the opponent faster than you'll be exhausted, ecetera.

I figure we'll need a good grounding in most of the styles to make a pacifist runner style that's really worth anything. I want to start with Roshi, then Krillin and Tenshinhan, then Yamcha, then Goku and Vegeta, then Piccolo and Gohan, then Future Trunks.

Yes, I want us to learn all the styles so that we can make a really good and useful pacifist style.
I support this plan. I'm guessing you're hoping to incorporate the Ki Blocking techniques into this as well?
 
I support this plan. I'm guessing you're hoping to incorporate the Ki Blocking techniques into this as well?

That would obviously be an involved technique once we learn how to do it. Yes. I hadn't forgotten about that. At all.

Also, here's a vote count:

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[X] NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE. How about some NOPE to go with all of that NOPE? This is a bad idea! Make an excuse! Something! Anything! Get him out of here! This is a terrible idea!
[X] The world has ended. Act like it, and remain firmly distant while you figure out how this will impact things.
No. of votes: 1

Mortifer
[X] I smell a golden opportunity. What better way to analyze the Seal than this?
[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
No. of votes: 3

dunk1010, Andres110, Nathaniel Wolff
[X] ...roll with it. Okay, let's see how thisturns out. When did this happen, and why were you not informed?
[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
No. of votes: 8[/B]
ChildishChimera, veekie, Aranfan, Bommelom, KaintukeeBob, KnightDisciple, Scotchtape27, adaer
[X] Okay, but seriously, he looks terrified, let the poor boy go.
[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
No. of votes: 1

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It looks like "roll with it + tease them" is winning massively.
 
You know, one that focuses on dodges, holds, baiting out wasteful attacks to exhaust the opponent faster than you'll be exhausted, ecetera.
While that makes sense, I would be wary of taking up such a thing as our main way of fighting. Attrition is not always a viable way to win; sometimes someone needs to be put down fast. I'd support this if we also incorporated a way to shift from the defensive side of things and take someone down very quickly if needed, because while we don't like violence, I think we know that there are situations where taking our enemy down quickly is the right choice. Like, if someone attacks us in a city, and the fight is causing bystanders to be killed.

Also, the idea of seeming to be pushed back for a whole fight before seizing upon a single mistake and using it to end the battle immediately is very appealing.

I don't mean that this should be the main goal, but just a facet of the style, for when it's needed. Winning by letting the enemy defeat themselves sounds like a great fit for our character.
 
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I worry that enrolling him at our school is a blatant attempt to have us interfere with the seal so Lady Vegeta can say we are interfering with his seal and are no longer worthy of being a scion.

Or something like that.

I recall it being mentioned the rest of the houses combined can still take us down if they disapprove.

Barring us going super saiyan 2.
 
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I worry this enrolling him at our school is a blatant attempt to say we are interfering with his seal and are no longer worthy of being a scion. Or something like that.

I recall it being mentioned the rest of the houses combined can still take us down if they disapprove.

Barring us going super saiyan 2.
Or SSJ4.

Yes, I know it isn't confirmed, let me dream okay?
 
While that makes sense, I would be wary of taking up such a thing as our main way of fighting. Attrition is not always a viable way to win; sometimes someone needs to be put down fast. I'd support this if we also incorporated a way to shift from the defensive side of things and take someone down very quickly if needed, because while we don't like violence, I think we know that there are situations where taking our enemy down quickly is the right choice. Like, if someone attacks us in a city, and the fight is causing bystanders to be killed.
Well, if we've learned Goku Style first, we could just switch to that and beat the enemy into submission.
 
That said, I'd much rather find out what the hell's up with Jaffur's style than try to make some kind of Pacifist style.
 
Oh, goody. Kakara's tweenage clique of girlfriends have just had their first boy tossed into the middle of them like a hand grenade in a foxhole. Surely, they will come together and work through this new challenge with more grace and sorority than a pile cats in a washing machine. Sophie in particular is going to be very tolerant and understanding of Kakara's inexplicable fascination with and deep connection to her first crush.

Can we get back to giant monsters and blowing stuff up? It's so much less messy.

In fact...

[] "Hey, let's go raid the science lab's storage room and blow up some police cars!"​

It's how I dealt with puberty, and I came out fine.



Yeah, I knew that recursion would be the absolute first thing on people's minds. :rolleyes:

Fortunately, you can only get it up to Exceptional via sheer grinding, so the madness has a limit. :D

Madness knows no limits.

Now we need to master four-witches, apply it to tails, master Great-Ape-x4 form, and combine it with multi-form.
 
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If only we'd had time to fall for Jaffur. The resulting relationship pileup would be glorious.

No no no, that's just a straightforward love triangle. The web of assumptions, misunderstandings, and misinterpretations involved in the guilt, duty, resentment, hope, loyalty, and fraternal ties all coloring the latent love quadrangle only capable of being mapped on an n-dimensional Klein bottle extended into pathological pseudo-identities on the imaginary plane much better captures the nature of adolescent society and romance.

The twitching is telling me that I really need to go blow something up.
 
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Yes, because she's known for being reasonable. Especially when children and contradictory opinions are involved.

Okay, the sarcasm was probably not necessary, but I have no idea how to respond to that. She can and will accuse us of something if she has the inclination. Then she'll make it into a thing and either do something she will regret or will put us in an awkward position.

For example, informing Berra we're trying to break the seal. Now, we weren't. Buuuuut if we need a deceit check to cover the greater scheme, we'll likely fail it. Communication is also up in the air. If Berra's suspicious he's already shown a willingness to forgo talking completely and violate the sanctity of Kakara's thoughts. Yeah, the situations are different, but it shows that he can be convinced it is necessary. With all the decades of guilt, Lady Vegeta would know exactly which levers to pull to get him to cave. You know, just to make sure. I'm also convinced she has a higher communications skill than we do.

On a different note, I'm unsure what to vote for. My reptilian side is hissing no's at me, but the part of me reading for the story wants to see where this goes.

Actually, the thing that crosses my mind... Does Dandeer even know where we go to school in the Masque? This might be sheer coincidence, the Saiyans are rather scattered.
 
[X] ...roll with it. Okay, let's see how thisturns out. When did this happen, and why were you not informed?

[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself someammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!

Guys, I think I want, next turn, to start studying the different styles so we can make our own style: A Pacifist Style.

You know, one that focuses on dodges, holds, baiting out wasteful attacks to exhaust the opponent faster than you'll be exhausted, ecetera.

I figure we'll need a good grounding in most of the styles to make a pacifist runner style that's really worth anything. I want to start with Roshi, then Krillin and Tenshinhan, then Yamcha, then Goku and Vegeta, then Piccolo and Gohan, then Future Trunks.

Yes, I want us to learn all the styles so that we can make a really good and useful pacifist style.

Ok, let me see if I get this right. Roshi is a good place to start, his style is not really good in a real fight but is a good basis to build up the hand to hand aspect, which would be key for when we learn ki blocking and, since it doesn't use ki techniques, can be taught to humans without breaking the masquerade. Krillin style focus on useful techniques like flight and solar flare, ki control which is something we are good at, the kamehameha which is our best technique and team figthing which we could improve. Tien to cover for weaknesses in style and because it has very good sinergy with Krillin; it also improves solar flare AND it favors multiform, which not only increases our yearly actions but would benefit from team fighting. Yamcha for attrition since you don't want to hurt your opponents and because the flurry of strikes might help ki blocking. Goku and Vegeta for the other two hand to hand styles since Krillin uses team fighting and because they are the close/long range focused options. Then the others to learn them all with Trunks being last because of its penalties.

To be honest, I am not so sure this is a good plan. The more styles we know, the better we can cover our weaknesses, true, but there is something about trying to cover too much ground.

Yamcha style doesn't seem to contribute much save for the flurry of strikes which is covered by Roshi. True, it helps flight (what's up with the by the way? It is a crane style technique and Tien's doesn't improve it) but that is it. Demon style is a better all rounder than crane since it does offer bonus but Piccolo's techniques were downright brutal. Makakensappo is a killing technique, Hellzone grenade is a killing technique and Masenko is two ki blasts one after the other so that the second hits after the guy dodged. Gohan style doesn't offer that much either if you learn the others and so does Trunk's. While Vegeta would close a long range weakness in the others and help us in crowd fighting which is likely something we will have to deal with, pacifist would make it hard to learn.

Not to mention that there is nothing about figuring Jaffur's style.

I think that it is good enough up to Tienshinhan's style but I would make a note about learning Jaffur's along with Krillin. They both rely in ki control but the personalities of their creators are different enough that they should cover each other's weaknesses and Jaffur did show some leanings to long range attacks that would eliminate the need of Vegeta Style save for the crowd fighting bit, which we can train separately with Tienshinhan style.

After those four, we should master Goku style and call it a day/ make our own. Because while it is heavily offensive and it goes for solo fights, it does have certain advantages. It is our house style and we are expected to master it, it uses IT which we also rely on. However, it also ties with one ambition of mine for Kakara.

Think about this. We are a ser. We have already gone to the otherworld. IF we can learn how to do it and travel around it... forget about fusión, about SS2 and about SS4.

We could learn the spirit bomb. We live in a world with thousands upon thousands of saiyans with power level in the millions. Two thousand of them give us power? We oneshot and ascended super saiyan. Four thousand? We hit a level 2 and we kill it. All of them? The one that killed kid Buu will look tiny in comparison. Furthermore, we would be the Scion to rediscover a lost technique and complete the style.

Furthermore, if we discover a way to take that power... well, among thousands, there should be at least five righteous saiyans, right?
 
Ok, let me see if I get this right. Roshi is a good place to start, his style is not really good in a real fight but is a good basis to build up the hand to hand aspect, which would be key for when we learn ki blocking and, since it doesn't use ki techniques, can be taught to humans without breaking the masquerade. Krillin style focus on useful techniques like flight and solar flare, ki control which is something we are good at, the kamehameha which is our best technique and team figthing which we could improve. Tien to cover for weaknesses in style and because it has very good sinergy with Krillin; it also improves solar flare AND it favors multiform, which not only increases our yearly actions but would benefit from team fighting. Yamcha for attrition since you don't want to hurt your opponents and because the flurry of strikes might help ki blocking. Goku and Vegeta for the other two hand to hand styles since Krillin uses team fighting and because they are the close/long range focused options. Then the others to learn them all with Trunks being last because of its penalties.

To be honest, the order doesn't really matter much to me, I want to learn all the styles for several reasons.

Firstly: I expect that the more styles we know and have mastered the bigger the bonus to making the pacifist style.

Secondly: I expect there to be a special bonus for knowing all the basic styles, as far as making our own style is concerned.

Thirdly: Introducing a Pacifist Style is going to burn quite some political capital, and considering everything that's going to be happening with the seal, we'll probably need the political capital of being an acknowledged master of all the styles to have Pacifist Style get any traction.
 
To be honest, the order doesn't really matter much to me, I want to learn all the styles for several reasons.

Firstly: I expect that the more styles we know and have mastered the bigger the bonus to making the pacifist style.

Secondly: I expect there to be a special bonus for knowing all the basic styles, as far as making our own style is concerned.

Thirdly: Introducing a Pacifist Style is going to burn quite some political capital, and considering everything that's going to be happening with the seal, we'll probably need the political capital of being an acknowledged master of all the styles to have Pacifist Style get any traction.
Fourthly: Being able to say we've learned and mastered every known style of fighting is just damn cool.
 
[X] ...roll with it. Okay, let's see how thisturns out. When did this happen, and why were you not informed?

[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
 
[X] ...roll with it. Okay, let's see how this turns out. When did this happen, and why were you not informed?

[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
 
@PoptartProdigy

This vote seems pretty decisive. I doubt this kinda gap is going to be overcome.

Vote tally:
##### 3.19
[X] NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE. How about some NOPE to go with all of that NOPE? This is a bad idea! Make an excuse! Something! Anything! Get him out of here! This is a terrible idea!
[X] The world has ended. Act like it, and remain firmly distant while you figure out how this will impact things.
No. of votes: 1

Mortifer
[X] I smell a golden opportunity. What better way to analyze the Seal than this?
[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
No. of votes: 3

dunk1010, Andres110, Nathaniel Wolff
[X] ...roll with it. Okay, let's see how thisturns out. When did this happen, and why were you not informed?
[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant![/b]
No. of votes: 11
ChildishChimera, veekie, Aranfan, Bommelom, KaintukeeBob, KnightDisciple, Scotchtape27, adaer, Bakkasama, pianoman, Terrabrand
[X] Okay, but seriously, he looks terrified, let the poor boy go.
[X] Business as usual. This is awkward. People are blushing. Sophie is obviously crushing. Ready the cannons, because you've got yourself some ammunition to spend. Tease everybody present! Tease them right this instant!
No. of votes: 1

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@PoptartProdigy

What's the details of the Wolf Fang Fist in this quest? I remember that the power of the strike actually came from a wolf totem, and that seemed a bit unique among ki attacks.
 
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