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@Aranfan , what do you think of trying to not slack school next year (since we won't have the mandatory Train Base Strength slot)?

Also, if we don't find the Senzu this year, I suggest we try to refine our Postcognition (visions of the past) and ESP (visions of the present) over our Precognition (visions of the future), at least in the short term.
 
@PoptartProdigy, will we get a malus to gaining the Instant Kamehameha due to it being offensive or will we lack one since we'd just be using two skills at once?

EDIT: Any chance of us getting Cell Style? He had styles from all the other Z-fighters so if anyone can create a "perfect" style, it's him.
 
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So we know about the Senzus, but what clans are under the umbrella of Goku?

The reason I haven't given a list is because there are hundreds of them, and even then they fragment more every generation. The Clan system is strained to breaking by the fact that the plan to unite the race failed and the population controls being removed wasn't followed by the steps needed to make that a feasible move. So each Lord has to ride herd on the disputes of hundreds of people and remember all of them, at the risk of mortally offending somebody from a point of misremembered trivia.

That said, there are a few big ones in particular who serve as the important players in Clan politics.

House Mato are traditionalists and isolationists. They are an old and prestigious House that dates back to before the Clan system was even formalized, and their support was a large part of what allowed Lady Garla to formalize that system. They are, obviously, named for Son Mato, and have an odd and amusing tendency to do as House Vegeta does and name their heirs after their House name, to predictable results. They are loyalists without peer to Lords who tend to reinforce the distance from the human world and preserve the Masquerade, but act as lightning rods for dissent against reformers. They are fervent members of the Ancestor Cult, to the point that they mandate their children's education in it.

House Balor, your Sensei's House, is Mato's diametric opposition. They accept the Masquerade with poor grace at the best of times, and the most combative of them even refuse to wear their Masques at all, to the result of being largely exiled to isolation. As a result, they are outsiders, but vocal ones who tend to collect support when public opinion is swinging against the Masquerade. They are also violently hostile to the Ancestor Cult and opposed its formalization with open conflict. The resulting sectarian violence threatened the Masquerade itself until Lady Garla intervened. Not every member of House Balor feels this way, but they make damn sure that their heir always does. The most even-keeled of them are at best merely disdainful of the Cult and Masquerade; from what you know of Sensei, that's where he falls.

House Stauber is a branch House from House Goku itself, and is fiercely loyalist at all times. That said, their politics don't always agree; like House Mato, they're isolationists, and when Lords try to break the Masquerade open Stauber often disagrees. That said, they've only openly opposed their Lord once, during the reign of Lord Oni, and even then only once Carrick Vegeta died fighting Oni. Their entrance into the conflict, however, proved decisive, and they were the ones to bring Oni down, exhausted as he was from his duel with Carrick. They are esteemed beyond measure by the majority of the Clan, and their name is a watchword for integrity, reliability, and honor. Additionally, unlike House Mato, Stauber tends to oppose the Ancestor Cult, viewing them as unacceptably independent from the Lords and all too likely to break the Masquerade if some arcane religious imperative demands it (Head Stauber's words, not mine).

House Peat is legendarily pro-Ancestor Cultist; since the Cult's first reformation, they have had three family members become the High Priest, and they take the sitting High Priest's words as quite literal gospel. And they are also the reason why House Stauber is so hostile to the Cult; Peat is highly opposed to the Masquerade, favoring open interaction with the humans of Garenhuld and an aggressive approach to returning to the stars. Members of the House have been part of three separate Super Saiyan rebellions, and their continued existence causes the Lords Goku a good deal of embarrassment and lost respect when dealing with the Lords Vegeta, who historically tend not to allow second chances; while not every Lord Vegeta takes Yammar's "root, branch, and seed," approach, they do historically execute every adult and adopt the children out among separate Houses with new names. The fact that House Peat has not been punished for their failure (or refusal) to impose internal discipline on their rebellious members makes Vegetans in general look on "Gokun law" as an oxymoron, and the House is in general a pariah in the modern world. But their position as important members of the Ancestor Cult, and especially the fact that the current High Priest is a Peat, mean that they still have some power left to them.

Those are four of the big ones. You'll notice that they represent the extremes from, "isolationist to anti-Masquerade," to, "pro- to anti-Cult." Those are the major axes of Saiyan political life, and while sub-factions of course exist, the four above Clans are held to be the Gokun epitome of the axes.

@PoptartProdigy, will we get a malus to gaining the Instant Kamehameha due to it being offensive or will we lack one since we'd just be using two skills at once?

I presume you mean this? You've already used it.
 
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Cool, and yeah, that's what it's called in Xenoverse and the wiki.

EDIT: How the hell is Jaffur still alive!? That attack was what was used to blow up Cell's upper body! At a power level of 3 million he should've been vaporised!

You yourself was only at 12 million at the time, remember, and Goku was at 1.125 billion. You simply couldn't produce a blast of that strength.

You were also holding back, a lot.
 
You yourself was only at 12 million at the time, remember, and Goku was at 1.125 billion. You simply couldn't produce a blast of that strength.

You were also holding back, a lot.
It was still more than what Jaffur was at the time and relative strength is everything. Goku was weaker than Cell and he still managed it.

How exactly do you hold back a Kamehameha? Why would you do fire a held back Kamehameha instead of simply hitting harder?
 
It was still more than what Jaffur was at the time and relative strength is everything. Goku was weaker than Cell and he still managed it.

How exactly do you hold back a Kamehameha? Why would you do fire a held back Kamehameha instead of simply hitting harder?

Because you didn't want to kill him. It was easy enough to fire with only a fraction of your strength. As for Cell...well, despite the eternity that we the viewers experience in between Goku warping down and firing, what is meant to be happening is Goku flashing down and firing swiftly enough that Cell barely realized Goku was there. Thus, he was unprepared. When you held back against Jaffur, you punched under your strength to avoid vaporizing him, taking into account the fact that he wasn't ready to receive the strike.

Like holding back a punch -- which is difficult, but given your qualifications, within your abilities.
 
It was still more than what Jaffur was at the time and relative strength is everything. Goku was weaker than Cell and he still managed it.

Power levels are bullshit. This was well established as early as the Raditz fight, when Goku more than doubled his effective power level with a Kamehameha and Piccolo reached even higher with his Special Beam Cannon. Both Raditz and later Ginyu were hella surprised that earthlings like Goku could raise their effective power level with Ki blasts. And Ginyu had figured out the trick to raising and lowering ones power level.

In sum: Power Levels are worthless bullshit except under the most restrictive of constraints.
 
Like holding back a punch -- which is difficult, but given your qualifications, within your abilities.
Doesn't explain why we didn't just, you know, punch him and hold back less. Seems to me like it'd be less ki intensive.

@Aranfan, rather than do two actions on Ki Manipulation, why not do two actions on Personal Ki? Ki Control is covered under Ki Talents and according to the description we're close to a breakthrough. Doing two actions might get us to Exceptional automatically as well as help in the other applications of Ki Talents.
 
Doesn't explain why we didn't just, you know, punch him and hold back less. Seems to me like it'd be less ki intensive.

In this case, it was to bluff him. He was proving frustratingly resistant to punch-based methods of attack, so you decided to bluff him into preparing for a ki blast before teleporting around his defenses. He was all set and dug in to resist a really big blast, and then you hit him from the opposite direction. Technically yes, it's more energy-intensive than punching him, but punching wasn't working. All war is deception, and all that. There was actually a Deceit check in there, which you critted on.
 
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Plan Aranfan has been named.
How droll.

[X] Plan Aranfan
What do my voters think? Is swaping out Ki manipulation for personal Ki worth it/
It's essentially a difference in which tab it falls under on the character sheet.

Ki manipulation can improve: Kamehameha, Solar Flare, Instant Transmission, or Power Ball. But it suffers from needing two actions.

Personal Ki can improve: Ki Sense, Flight, and Ki Control. It also only costs one action, so it should, theoretically, be a more efficient usage.

Really it depends on how you look at it. Personal Ki is likely to be more useful, as it allows multiple actions with Ki Sense and Ki Control having amazing utility. But it isn't combat oriented even if it helps. However, something like Solar Flare, or Instant Transmission is amazingly versatile in a fight and outside of it. New Tricks allows us to open up new Ki talents, which gives us more options.

Also, @Aranfan with the reveal that the cult is possibly secessionist, or at least has close ties to seditious elements, do you have any inclination to try to infiltrate them?
 
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@PoptartProdigy, I have a suggestion for how you run your game. When I was first reading this, we would occasionally gain traits through the things we did and experienced. However, the descriptions for those traits weren't in the updates themselves, they were in the character sheet. I was abstaining from looking at the character sheet to avoid spoilers and in doing so missed out on knowing what the traits did. My suggestion is to include the description of traits in the updates themselves so that new readers can know what they do without spoiling themselves.
 
Adding my two cents to the suggestion above. If you do so, I suggest doing it at the end of the update and spoilered so it doesn't cut the flow when reading.
 
You know, I just realised how bullshit Cell was. He was a half-saiyin with Frieza's DNA. The same Frieza who equaled SSB Goku with four months of training.:o
 
You know, I just realised how bullshit Cell was. He was a half-saiyin with Frieza's DNA. The same Frieza who equaled SSB Goku with four months of training.:o
Cell didn't have all the powers of his composite races. He couldn't transform into a Super Saiyan, for instance, even if he did have Zenkai, couldn't do magic like the Namekians, and was never shown to have the sensory abilities of Tien.
 
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Cell didn't have all the powers of his composite races. He couldn't transform into a Super Saiyan, for instance, even if he did have Zenkai, couldn't do magic like the Namekians, and was never shown to have the sensory abilities of Tien.
Maybe he could? After all, to reach super saiyin, you need to train up to a certain level of strength. Given that Cell's base, untrained power level was so high, the power level Cell needed to reach Super Saiyin was correspondingly higher and why he never used Super Saiyin in-story.

EDIT: Also, after his Zenkai he did reach the Super Perfect Cell state that many people consider to be an equivalent since he had a similar lightning aura to SSJ.
 
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Besides, I'm fairly sure what made Frieza so bullshit was nothing about genetics (though that defiantly helped) and everything to do with a combination of his 'soul' and his mindset.
 
Maybe he could? After all, to reach super saiyin, you need to train up to a certain level of strength. Given that Frieza's base, untrained power level was so high, the power level Cell needed to reach Super Saiyin was correspondingly higher.
Quite the leap in logic just to argue that Cell would've been super duper powerful if he trained like Frieza.

Besides, I'm fairly sure what made Frieza so bullshit was nothing about genetics (though that defiantly helped) and everything to do with a combination of his 'soul' and his mindset.
No, it was definitely genetics. To elaborate, he and his father were mutants of his species which are normally much less powerful than them. The Ginyu Force was also all mutants. This is canon by the way.
 
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Huh...I vaguely remember something about that. Where does Lord Chilled and SSJ Bardoc (because of SKoT shenanigans) fit in there? a 'relatively stable' mutant bloodline or is episode of Bardoc Non-cannon, I forget.
 
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