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Aww dammit, still got a war coming.

*sigh* well at least dad can use the presence of the oncoming alien threat to secure a better position in terms of public relations. And maybe use it to push for people to train in Ki.


Well, on the bright side, we have some info:
  • Their ships are breaking down. They've been moving for a very long time, and they're desperate. This is they're last shot.
  • The subordinate (and possibly the rest of the fleet) is very submissive to the leader, and he is the strongest among them.
  • His armor hides his powerlevel.
  • He's coming to deal with us out of loyalty "I've been too gentle. Too afraid of an engagement. This just forces me to choose. The enemy has our people. We can't just leave them there. And there are traitors I have to deal with." So if his men are all there and not dead, we're liable to be able to talk him down. Especially when he sees how outmatched he is.
  • He underestimates the rest of the Saiyans. "I don't need you all to keep up with me," says Tamar. "I just need you to stay out of the way while I deal with that freakishly strong girl and the leader. The rest of you should be able to handle the rest." So have every fighter power up to 1-10 Million via a 'secret technique' that means they can 'only rise to PL 100 for 1-2 lunar year(s) afterwards'.
  • Since he's coming for his men, he isn't going to just KKV the planet.
 
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Actions I remember being discussed to be added were:
Drama Club
Magic Club
Better Living Through Ki - the blog
Saiyan Masque
 
I thought Dad's masque name was Bruce?
*checks* Yep.

Simple way to deal with this: have many, many strikes teams composed of 5 Saiyans with PL of 3,000,000+ under Masque trained, with at least 1 member knowing instant transmission, and we should aim for 5,000 such teams minimum. 20,000 teams would be preferred.

With the Seers predicting when and where the enemy will strike, the teams will disable the various ships ability to move and non-lethally subduing the enemy forces.

Meanwhile, Apra, Berra and Yammar intercept the leader at max power under Masque, while Kakara is on standby ready to go Super Saiyan if that's required.
 
*checks* Yep.

Simple way to deal with this: have many, many strikes teams composed of 5 Saiyans with PL of 3,000,000+ under Masque trained, with at least 1 member knowing instant transmission, and we should aim for 5,000 such teams minimum. 20,000 teams would be preferred.

With the Seers predicting when and where the enemy will strike, the teams will disable the various ships ability to move and non-lethally subduing the enemy forces.

Meanwhile, Apra, Berra and Yammar intercept the leader at max power under Masque, while Kakara is on standby ready to go Super Saiyan if that's required.
Wait...

@PoptartProdigy, would it be possible for the Sorcerers to either mass produce some sort of restraint the immobilizes and seals the power of those it's put on, or failing that, an easily applied paralyzer and movable containment cells?

Because I'm thinking that the teams have such items to easily capture and contain the enemy forces. Far less chance of damage occurring to our precious new spaceships.
 
Wait...

@PoptartProdigy, would it be possible for the Sorcerers to either mass produce some sort of restraint the immobilizes and seals the power of those it's put on, or failing that, an easily applied paralyzer and movable containment cells?

Because I'm thinking that the teams have such items to easily capture and contain the enemy forces. Far less chance of damage occurring to our precious new spaceships.
They have ki dampening cells. They sure as shit ain't mobile, though.
 
A few things to note:
1) Tamar is confident he can take Berra and Maya, despite PL's of 1 and 1.5 million respectively. Keira's submissiveness, and Murks belief Tamar could kill us all suggests a high PL as well. The armour, to our knowledge, blocks up to a PL of 10 million.
2) Tamar expects the rest of the Fleet to be strong enough to defeat the rest without issue if those two are out of the picture.
3) Keira was worried about having to deal with Berra and Maya. Suggesting a PL of 500,000 is about as strong as they go.

@PoptartProdigy, do we have an estimate of the size of the Fleet and number of people in it?

...Also, did sparing Murk have any beneficial effect?
 
The guy is sorely mistaken. He thinks maya and karen dad is the strongest and knows how strong they are.

Half right in that the leader is strongest. Completely wrong about how strong everybody else is.

The plan is working. This is the reason why we hide power levels instead of powering to max supersaiyan in every encounter.

So that hostile aliens won't know how strong we are and get defeated because they underestimate us and do not attract the attention of the enemy.
 
A few things to note:
1) Tamar is confident he can take Berra and Maya, despite PL's of 1 and 1.5 million respectively. Keira's submissiveness, and Murks belief Tamar could kill us all suggests a high PL as well. The armour, to our knowledge, blocks up to a PL of 10 million.
2) Tamar expects the rest of the Fleet to be strong enough to defeat the rest without issue if those two are out of the picture.
3) Keira was worried about having to deal with Berra and Maya. Suggesting a PL of 500,000 is about as strong as they go.

@PoptartProdigy, do we have an estimate of the size of the Fleet and number of people in it?

...Also, did sparing Murk have any beneficial effect?
You do not know.

Well, Tamar is not in a murderous rage so much as he is grimly resolved, so there's that.
The guy is sorely mistaken. He thinks maya and karen dad is the strongest and knows how strong they are.

Half right in that the leader is strongest. Completely wrong about how strong everybody else is.

The plan is working. This is the reason why we hide power levels instead of powering to max supersaiyan in every encounter.

So that hostile aliens won't know how strong we are and get defeated because they underestimate us and do not attract the attention of the enemy.
The, "plan," yes.
 
The guy is sorely mistaken. He thinks maya and karen dad is the strongest and knows how strong they are.

Half right in that the leader is strongest. Completely wrong about how strong everybody else is.

The plan is working. This is the reason why we hide power levels instead of powering to max supersaiyan in every encounter.

So that hostile aliens won't know how strong we are and get defeated because they underestimate us and do not attract the attention of the enemy.
The downside is that hostiles aliens underestimate and attack in the first place. This is a place where he who can kick the most ass, rules.

In the future, we're going to have to increase the PL we show to the galaxy. It doesn't have to be amazing, we're in the space boonies, it just has to be enough that we don't appear a soft target.
Blast, none of the scouts are talking huh? :(

...Also, forgot to ask, what's Keira's PL from what we could detect?
 
Blast, none of the scouts are talking huh? :(

...Also, forgot to ask, what's Keira's PL from what we could detect?
Bear in mind that those that stood down did so on the premise of, "We don't have to fight." They didn't turn their coats or anything. Don't expect anybody to willingly offer up military intelligence.

Hovering around 300K.
 
Not that precisely, but quite the bonus, yes. :D
Hmm, lets see where I went wrong.

Previously, you've mentioned that a 10% difference in PL is a +30 modifier to rolls, with 20% being +60 and so forth. 300 million is 1,000 times 300 thousand, or a difference of 99,900%. That's 9,900 10% differences, so 30*9,900 = 297,000.

Edit: ...Or were you referring to the fact that both figures aren't exact? :oops:
 
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Hmm, lets see where I went wrong.

Previously, you've mentioned that a 10% difference in PL is a +30 modifier to rolls, with 20% being +60 and so forth. 300 million is 1,000 times 300 thousand, or a difference of 99,900%. That's 9,900 10% differences, so 30*9,900 = 297,000.

Edit: ...Or were you referring to the fact that both figures aren't exact? :oops:
No, it's merely that it's not a precisely linear scale -- in fact, past a certain point of absurdity it is essentially completely arbitrary. Outside of exceptional circumstances, a sufficient difference will see me just waiving rolls completely.
 
If Maya keeps getting stronger at the present rate then she should hit 10 million next year. Her power as been consistently multipling by 10 each year. We need to keep pushing her.
 
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