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Because without Berra's political support, she would have been murdered as soon as people learned of Jaffur and Vegeta being sealed. She could have swung sealing Vegeta without him if she had Jaffur's support, if he testified to how much of an abusive bastard Vegeta was and lent his legitimacy as Scion, but both of them? No chance. Berra had to intervene so that at least they could pretend it wasn't a coup on her part.

I mean, she could have trapped Jaffur as he slept but by having Berra help it also sent a message. Or maybe, since we got there after it had already started, she wanted one more chance to explain to Jaffur before sealing and wanted Berra there for when he got violent.

We haven't exactly gone out of our way to figure what happened.
Well, according to them, it's because she's technically still their Lords wife:
Clan Vegeta's management has largely been taken up by Lady Vegeta in her husband and son's absence, and the Clan as a whole is not happy about it. Many are asking why we should listen to her after what she did, and only our respect for her position keeps us from acting out. Were this Clan Goku, we'd already be rioting!
 
It blinks. "...Songs-Through-Murk."
Communication: 73, Pass
You frown. "That seems like naming a human, 'Words.'"

The alien sinks back and lets out a weak-sounding trill. You realize after a moment that it's laughter. "I never said that it was a good name." It looks you dead in the eye. "Are you going to make me wait?"
I actually created that name as a reference to his position as a Scout.

I imagined that his culture was one where names change to match their profession or to match their most impressive feat(ure)s.

Or it was just strangely prophetic and it's something that gets joked about.
 
I actually created that name as a reference to his position as a Scout.

I imagined that his culture was one where names change to match their profession or to match their most impressive feat(ure)s.

Or it was just strangely prophetic and it's something that gets joked about.
I went for the second, and decided that his parents were derps. :lol
 
*reads the pages*

*deep inhale*

*deep exhale*

Here we go.

[X] What will be

Now, on the Dandeer matter, I only have one thing to say:

Is there a reason she's the only Vegetan Sorcerer besides Dandelor? @PoptartProdigy

Because that is very odd
 
Except according to her, she managed to wipe his memory of informing of sealing his father, and sent him to bed. Why didn't she do it while he was asleep then?
Because according to the quote you cited, Dandeer was severely injured? Even if she made up the "Jaffur attacked me" story entirely, someone put her in critical condition.

She may have been in no shape to cast a spell as complex and sturdy as the Sealing would need to be, even if she was capable of lesser magic like putting someone to sleep or totally erasing their short-term memory.

Basically, if Dandeer's motives weren't more or less as advertised, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for her not to take the chance to seal Jaffur in his sleep. Even if she needed to appeal to Berra first for political support, as @Bakkasama points out, she could have done that without being badly injured. She could have at least tried it.

I went for the second, and decided that his parents were derps. :lol
The third option is that the idea of songs that cut through murky water has some deep cultural symbolism or aesthetic appeal to his species. Like, if someone told you their name was Sunbeams-Through-Gaps-in-Clouds, you miiiight have enough reverence for how damn glorious sunlight through clouds look, to sympathize and not mock.

You might. ;)
 
Because according to the quote you cited, Dandeer was severely injured? Even if she made up the "Jaffur attacked me" story entirely, someone put her in critical condition.

She may have been in no shape to cast a spell as complex and sturdy as the Sealing would need to be, even if she was capable of lesser magic like putting someone to sleep or totally erasing their short-term memory.

Basically, if Dandeer's motives weren't more or less as advertised, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for her not to take the chance to seal Jaffur in his sleep. Even if she needed to appeal to Berra first for political support, as @Bakkasama points out, she could have done that without being badly injured. She could have at least tried it.
Thats eems like you're underestimating her

just saying
 
Thats eems like you're underestimating her

just saying
It's speculation, but we do know that the Sealing is complicated, powerful magic. Not only does it create a permanent Masque, it also contains a wealth of anti-tampering protocols.

We don't actually know the limits of what Dandeer (or other sorcerors) are capable of, or how much concentration and strength they need in order to use their magic. But it's certainly believable, and would in no way reflect poorly on Dandeer's powers, if she can't perform a Sealing reliably and safely while suffering from two broken arms and a collapsed lung.

And she did show up at Berra's doorstep with those injuries, and she must have gotten them somehow. If Lord Vegeta inflicted those injuries on her, she may have had enough strength to perform one Sealing (in desperate self-defense), but not two. If an unknown third party tried to interfere by attacking her, she may have been unable to Seal Jaffur after fending off the attack. If she inflicted these injuries on herself somehow- same issue.

Something to note here. Berra, last we checked, had an Excellent rating for Communication, which is +30 to the roll. So he gained at least +26 from other things, and likely considerably more.

Wonder wha traits he has we,re not aware of?
Scanning his character sheet:

Reputation: "The Wise." Your father has a solid reputation as a capable mediator and administrator, who acts with patience and responsibility. He has successfully maintained the order of law in Clan Goku since his rise to the station of Lord, and even in these troubled times continues to do so with ease and aplomb while lending his support to the Regent Lady Vegeta's faltering rule.

Traits: "As the Rocks [Former Foundational Trait]: Your father is widely known for never acting without careful consideration of all points of view. If he were the PC he would experience constant and heavy vote weighting on all options in favor of patience, and he does receive large bonuses to any actions taken in moderation.

Ally to Good, Nightmare to You [Foundational Trait]: Your Dad speaks often and passionately about the importance of right behavior. Of everybody you know, you would call only him a true hero. He receives massive bonuses on all actions taken in what he believes to be the service of right.

Atoner [Foundational Trait]: Your father feels intense guilt for the mistakes he's made over the course of his life, having spent years being forced to watch as everything he strove for spun out of control as a direct result of his choices. He will nearly always decide to immediately commit to whatever course of action he views as permissible that will allow him to mitigate or reverse any consequences of his failures, and benefits from the full bonus of "Ally to Good, Nightmare to You" on any checks made in service to that course of action.

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A reputation as "the Wise" contributes to Berra stepping up, arguing for moderation, and calmly laying out the reasons he pursued a course of action. Being patient "as the rocks" and having a reputation for this contributes to him having clear reasons for his course of action, and encourages others to take him seriously. They know he wouldn't have done any of this lightly or casually, and that could easily confer a bonus to his check. Berra's other traits are probably not so relevant, but they might be.

Those two trait bonuses could easily give him a +30 right there.

Berra may well also derive situational bonuses from synergy with other skills like Leadership, or from being the reigning Lord and thus having a unique position of legal and moral standing within the Exile community.
 
Jaron has Communication[Lethal] and is a normal human boy, with a power level of below a million, who can't go Super Saiyan. He'd be a pretty terrible scion. Plus scions only have as much authority as their lords/ladies allow them so we'd still have the problem of Regent Dandeer.
While some of that can be compensated for, you're right that there are issues if he's to truly be the Scion. But, I don't want him as the actual Scion. I just want him getting trained up/going through the motions.

It's both a delaying action and a smokescreen. It helps us bring House Senzu out of hiding (since Jaffur sort of being Scion again might be a good enough excuse) so if dad ever catches us, we were just playing with a childhood friend. Also it'll placate the Vegetans somewhat so they stop edging towards that civil war that Dandeer knowingly or not keeps pushing them towards.

A civil war more likely to flare up with the gasoline to the fire, that is Jaron being both able to manipulate ki (with no training and strong for a human) and being some kind of mage(since that did get found out a few updates ago). A mixture that might push some towards this 'make Jaron the Scion' line of thinking but without our political acumen.

Speaking of Jaron being a mage, with House Senzu back in the fold Yammar can push for Jaron to get Dandelor as a teacher for Sorcery and from there hide the fact that Jaron isn't actually a Sorcerer. Or, if he his, then train him in more than Dandeer's inevitable "StrengthenthesealStrengthentheseal". Hell, if we're lucky, Yammar can push for someone from Senzu to replace Dandeer as Regent.
 
While some of that can be compensated for, you're right that there are issues if he's to truly be the Scion. But, I don't want him as the actual Scion. I just want him getting trained up/going through the motions.

It's both a delaying action and a smokescreen. It helps us bring House Senzu out of hiding (since Jaffur sort of being Scion again might be a good enough excuse) so if dad ever catches us, we were just playing with a childhood friend. Also it'll placate the Vegetans somewhat so they stop edging towards that civil war that Dandeer knowingly or not keeps pushing them towards.

A civil war more likely to flare up with the gasoline to the fire, that is Jaron being both able to manipulate ki (with no training and strong for a human) and being some kind of mage(since that did get found out a few updates ago). A mixture that might push some towards this 'make Jaron the Scion' line of thinking but without our political acumen.

Speaking of Jaron being a mage, with House Senzu back in the fold Yammar can push for Jaron to get Dandelor as a teacher for Sorcery and from there hide the fact that Jaron isn't actually a Sorcerer. Or, if he his, then train him in more than Dandeer's inevitable "StrengthenthesealStrengthentheseal". Hell, if we're lucky, Yammar can push for someone from Senzu to replace Dandeer as Regent.
This is a terrible idea

we do not want Dandeer anywhere near House Senzu, as this'd cause
 
Rushing down the stares, you come into the open air and take stock. Saiyans stand in a milling mass -- nearly every single member of your world in one place. It's chaos.

stairs. We aren't rushing down people staring at us, y'know.

The most important thing I have to keep in mind with every decision I make is this:

This is missing a quotation mark at the start, even though the prior paragraph has a closing quote.
 
"I want you to personally escort young Mister Valentine and Miss Webley to their homes. Explain what's happened, but if they ask anything else, simply tell them that I will be present to answer their questions shortly."
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Ok. Either Berra is really bad with names or he oversold the whole "I don't know my daughter's friends that well" part of his act. Because according to the charácter sheet, Jaron's surname is Somerlad.

That is the only explanation. After all, the idea of Poptart making a mistake like that is absurd. At least he is consistent with his act since I think Vegeta's masque was referred like that before too.

On another topic, it is a bit of a shame that we lost open armed. At least the new trait makes it so we don't have to créate a style from scratch to be effective in a fight and we can do with Tien and maybe Goku style. Still would like to make our own but that has become a lot less pressing (though we are still learning a style this year if possible).

I also add my voice in asking if the leader was captured. It is something Kakara would know.
 
Ok. Either Berra is really bad with names or he oversold the whole "I don't know my daughter's friends that well" part of his act. Because according to the charácter sheet, Jaron's surname is Somerlad.

That is the only explanation. After all, the idea of Poptart making a mistake like that is absurd. At least he is consistent with his act since I think Vegeta's masque was referred like that before too.

Not just referred to... pretty sure Valentine was Vegeta's masqued form's given name.
 
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Ok. Either Berra is really bad with names or he oversold the whole "I don't know my daughter's friends that well" part of his act. Because according to the charácter sheet, Jaron's surname is Somerlad.

That is the only explanation. After all, the idea of Poptart making a mistake like that is absurd. At least he is consistent with his act since I think Vegeta's masque was referred like that before too.

On another topic, it is a bit of a shame that we lost open armed. At least the new trait makes it so we don't have to créate a style from scratch to be effective in a fight and we can do with Tien and maybe Goku style. Still would like to make our own but that has become a lot less pressing (though we are still learning a style this year if possible).

I also add my voice in asking if the leader was captured. It is something Kakara would know.

Bleh, you're right.

Open-armed's old effect is covered by the new trait and then some. Convincing somebody to back down counts as protecting others as far as the trait goes.

The leader was captured and is receiving medical attention.
 
Yeah, Protector seems to be a really strong Trait, one that maintains the good things about Pacifist while buffing out the bad things (Like a dislike for fighting).
 
Not just referred to... pretty sure Valentine was Vegeta's masqued form's given name.
In thatcase, it might be better if @PoptartProdigy changed the surname Somerlad instead of correcting the update. That way his father would be Valentine Valentine of Trasteia instead of Valentine Somerlad.

Or just leave it like that in the update:

Berra: Karen, take Mister Valentine home.
Jaron: Mister Valentine is my father. Please call me Jaron.
Berra: Nah, Mr. Valentine is fine. It wouldn't be polite otherwise.
Jaron: No, I mean... Valentine is dad's name and my own is Jaron, not Valentine, that is...
Berra: Did you say anything?
Valentine: No, sir!
 
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