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Dragon Ball: After the End

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KnightDisciple said:
Or maybe I'm speaking from my own personal experiences, and while there are days I'd take advantage of "flex to get clean", I'd still shower.

But fine, I'll drop the matter, seems like this is one of those "agree to disagree" moments.
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I'd probably still shower occasionally, but it would be in my mind as a "leisure activity" and not "do this every day so you're not an awful slob". But yeah, we're getting a bit off-topic.
 
KnightDisciple said:
Burning off grime keeps you clean in a utilitarian sense but is not the same relaxing and invigorating experience an actual shower is.

I mean, in our diets day-to-day, we don't need a lot of things, but we still eat them because it's an enjoyable experience.

And Kakara's eleven years old. She probably doesn't use many cosmetics yet, but that may change. Probably will change at least a bit.

And the outhouse comparison's point is that an outhouse functions, and is even technically more water-efficient, but is not the preferred waste disposal method.
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Well I can personally tell you that I take showers to become clear. I do not find them invigorating and if I had a way to clean myself in a few seconds I would definitely take it. Especially if I could do it at any time. I hate feeling dirty so the ability to clean myself in the middle of a work out would be awesome. An outhouse is inconvenient because you have to walk farther to get to the outhouse. Ki cleaning would be very convenient because you could do it at any time.

Also you know how your mouth tastes horrible when you wake up? With ki cleaning you could clean your teeth without getting out of bed. I personally would love that. Also not having to interrupt reading a good book in order to do routine maintenance would be great.
 
fictionfan said:
No by itself. However better living through ki would be trying to find a ki trick for every daily activity. Might save enough time for another action. More likely give us a bonus to improving our ki skills in general.
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Skipping showers is probably the biggest one by far. In real life that 15 minutes a day would add up, but I doubt it'd be enough to equal even one action per year. And I see no reason it would improve our ki talents any more than any other ki action. Overall, I can't really see any benefit us mechanically, except possibly a minor mental health boost? I'd rather just train something else.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
That still seems like a pretty major impact, not the minor shout-outs @PoptartProdigy was talking about. Is this the AU version of us you're asking?
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Cynthia plans to do a bunch of things, but the three I mentioned are the only ones that will be impactful enough for Kakara to notice them.

I have not cleared any of this with PoptartProdigy yet, tho. These are just things Cynthia will want to do once reintegration happens.
 
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Aranfan said:
Cynthia plans to do a bunch of things, but the three I mentioned are the only ones that will be impactful enough for Kakara to notice them.
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I get that, it's just that when we were talking about it earlier and how it was going to be "shout outs" and "almost no impact" I was very definitely not thinking of having someone completely overturn one of the setting's main conceits - "only these very few people get to be Super Saiyans." I guess it's possible by the time it happens the quest will look very different (if it happens in a decade or more, maybe we'll have broken the Masquerade anyway?) But if it happens and the Quest looks like it does right now - which is all I can really judge it by - that would be a really big deal, and frankly I'm a little worried.

EDIT: I was pretty much thinking it would be on the level of this update, where we very briefly interacted with a character and nothing important or noteworthy happened.
 
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Deathbybunnies said:
Skipping showers is probably the biggest one by far. In real life that 15 minutes a day would add up, but I doubt it'd be enough to equal even one action per year. And I see no reason it would improve our ki talents any more than any other ki action. Overall, I can't really see any benefit us mechanically, except possibly a minor mental health boost? I'd rather just train something else.
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Other ki actions happen once. This would be devolping habits in the form of a trait so it would apply to future years.
 
fictionfan said:
Other ki actions happen once. This would be devolping habits in the form of a trait so it would apply to future years.
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We pretty much constantly use Ki Sensing, and very very often use Telepathy, Multiform, etc.

By all means, ask Poptart about it. I don't think you'll wrangle a useful trait out of it, but I certainly wouldn't complain if you did.

You could argue that since this is meant to be replacing regular actions of day-to-day life, it shouldn't cost an action to implement.
 
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Quest said:
Since we got it last year, would it be possible to train in it a bit in the current year?:whistle:
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You know what? If enough people express an interest, I'll have Kakara spend an action under saiyan Masque, sure. That'll probably get you up from "Incompetent."

Deathbybunnies said:
Hey @PoptartProdigy, if we get to Legendary Saiyan Masque Affinity can we turn into this?
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adaer said:
[X] Friends
Almost certainly not the optimal choice. However, I want us to have fun with this the first time.

@PoptartProdigy How does astral projection mix with ki abilities? Can we use the Kamehameha/Solar Flare/other energy blasts while projecting? Can our multiform technique be used simultaneously, or do we have to be in a single body? Can we still use Instant Transmission? Is there any strange effect if we try to project while Super Saiyan?
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You have a crippling power level penalty and will find yourself terrifyingly delicate in the event that anything hits you. Otherwise, nothing strange when you're just wandering around. You are invisible to non-Sighted eyes, but Sorcery can work around that if the caster in question knows to, and you're still vulnerable to stray strikes.

KaintukeeBob said:
[X] Enemies
-[X] Like that one guy with the 100,000 power level. I've tasted his ki before, maybe it'll be easier to find now.
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I'll be striking that write-in for this vote. That kind of specificity, as mentioned, will come in later votes.

Deathbybunnies said:
I disagree. Disliking training enough that it affects our performance is clearly a flaw. If those feelings were strong enough that using a Masque to suppress them for the duration of training was a bad thing, they'd be strong enough we'd be outright refusing to train already. Kakara has already decided/committed to doing the training - thus, the moral decision it would be affecting has already been made. This is pretty much the equivalent of wearing a noseplug as a sanitation worker.


That still seems like a pretty major impact, not the minor shout-outs @PoptartProdigy was talking about. Is this the AU version of us you're asking?
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The Cynthia you just saw is not the Cynthia @Aranfan is playing. Their Cynthia comes from a branch timeline. If that Cynthia dies, she'll re-merge with the Cynthia you just saw, who is the main-timeline version. Given that the branch alt is a Time Patroller, Cynthia Main gets to keep her alt's memories. Beyond that, unless I've greatly misread the character she does not plan on making a stir. While other characters in the RP have fewer than no compunctions about using Patrol-sourced abilities and knowledge to impact their timelines, Cynthia strikes me as somebody who would feel uncomfortable with it outside of direst need. Also, she's going to be kept busy in the Time Patrol. Her alt lives there full time. I foresee her taking a hands-off approach to her timeline. Even if she doesn't, she's basically not going to be around. That last point isn't even because of anything I'll do; it's just that with all her responsibilities in the RP, she won't have time to be around.

All of that having been said, I'm not going to explain for every element of crossover why it's not going to be an issue going forward. I'm on record as saying that they won't be huge, mesovoric portions of the story; I'm not going to go into the nitty-gritty of why every time one of them crops up. Y'all are just gonna have to trust me.

fictionfan said:
Other ki actions happen once. This would be devolping habits in the form of a trait so it would apply to future years.
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Gimme a proposal to nix or allow. That said, haven't we discussed this once before?
 
PoptartProdigy said:
Gimme a proposal to nix or allow. That said, haven't we discussed this once before?
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Yes you have, relevant posts.

fictionfan said:
@How are these for ki exercises.
[]Ki exercise: You can already learn about your surroundings by pinging it with your aura. Take this a step further put your aura into things in order to learn everything about them. Secondary application: put your direct your aura between people in order to intercept telepathy.
[]Ki exercise: Better living though ki. Go over your daily routine and try and think of ways to do everything faster/better. From brushing your teeth (burn away the plaque), brushing your hair (your transformation changes your hair maybe you can do that in a controlled way), sleeping (meditation) and even sitting (hover right above your chair) try and make everything you can into a ki exercise.
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PoptartProdigy said:
In general, those would be through "New Tricks," but yes, those are absolutely things you could try. The first would develop in the direction of a skill. The second would likely terminate in a new trait reflecting that specialization of ki use.
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PoptartProdigy said:
You know what? If enough people express an interest, I'll have Kakara spend an action under saiyan Masque, sure. That'll probably get you up from "Incompetent."
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Quest said:
Anyone up for this? It's basically free training.
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Expressing an interest.

PoptartProdigy said:
The Cynthia you just saw is not the Cynthia @Aranfan is playing. Their Cynthia comes from a branch timeline. If that Cynthia dies, she'll re-merge with the Cynthia you just saw, who is the main-timeline version. Given that the branch alt is a Time Patroller, Cynthia Main gets to keep her alt's memories. Beyond that, unless I've greatly misread the character she does not plan on making a stir. While other characters in the RP have fewer than no compunctions about using Patrol-sourced abilities and knowledge to impact their timelines, Cynthia strikes me as somebody who would feel uncomfortable with it outside of direst need. Also, she's going to be kept busy in the Time Patrol. Her alt lives there full time. I foresee her taking a hands-off approach to her timeline. Even if she doesn't, she's basically not going to be around. That last point isn't even because of anything I'll do; it's just that with all her responsibilities in the RP, she won't have time to be around.

All of that having been said, I'm not going to explain for every element of crossover why it's not going to be an issue going forward. I'm on record as saying that they won't be huge, mesovoric portions of the story; I'm not going to go into the nitty-gritty of why every time one of them crops up. Y'all are just gonna have to trust me.
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Ah, so it is an AU then! Sorry, it just sounded like there was going to be a major shake-up caused.

PoptartProdigy said:
Gimme a proposal to nix or allow. That said, haven't we discussed this once before?
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I don't remember hearing the idea. Feel free to correct me if you have something else in mind @fictionfan , but I imagine the proposal would be something like "Make an effort to improve everyday activities by developing minor ki techniques, or just using ki in novel ways. Attempt to exercise your ki usage whenever possible."

fictionfan said:
Yes you have relevant posts.
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...Oh, I've been ninja'd.
 
fictionfan said:
Yes you have relevant posts.
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Then yup, still valid projects.

Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - Dragon Ball: After the End | Page 374 | Sufficient Velocity
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[X] Opportunities
No. of Votes: 8
fictionfan
ElleonXan
Karnax626
KnightDisciple
Lupercal
NyxNull
The Fourth Monado
veekie

[X] Secrets
No. of Votes: 2
Deathbybunnies
anailater

[X] Friends
No. of Votes: 2
adaer
Bommelom

[X] Enemies
No. of Votes: 1
KaintukeeBob

Total No. of Voters: 13

Early lead for "Opportunities," but there are definitely still votes out there.
 
This has probably been answered before, but - if you die in a projection, do you die in real life?

PoptartProdigy said:
You know what? If enough people express an interest, I'll have Kakara spend an action under saiyan Masque, sure. That'll probably get you up from "Incompetent."
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Interest.

We should do it during Raising Grades, obviously.

Gemma: "Uh, Karen--we were all kinda wondering..."
Jenny: "What the heck's going on with your body, Karen?"
Karen: "Huh? Oh, don't tell me you guys haven't had The Talk."
Sophie: "What talk?"
Karen: "...We're gonna need some more file folders."
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