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Dragon Ball: After the End

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[X] Demonstrate the truth. That vision you suppressed earlier is still nagging at the back of your skull, it would be simple enough to let it in for a quick look and some white eyes.
-[X] Afterwards, ask how Jaron's been tailed (hehe), because we haven't sensed anyone and we're one of the best ki sensors in the world.
--[X] Make sure to actually make the tailed pun
 
Aranfan said:
I dun get it.
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Karen and one of her friends (the one with a crush on Jaron) are making him 'birthday bean dip'. Presumably out of senzu beans.

Also, I think this is the way I want to go:

[X] Demonstrate the truth. That vision you suppressed earlier is still nagging at the back of your skull, it would be simple enough to let it in for a quick look and some white eyes.
-[X] Afterwards, ask how Jaron's been tailed (hehe), because we haven't sensed anyone and we're one of the best ki sensors in the world.
--[X] Make sure to actually make the tailed pun
 
Alex pears said:
And how "big" a revelation is it?

Say if a Lord were to hide that they were a Seer they're entire life and then for one reason or another it came out how bad would it be for them?
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Moderate, likely. The Seer stigma is not as severe as the Sorcerer stigma. For most it's legitimately how the Seers act that puts them off. So if the Lord can avoid that act, they'll be fine. Of course, everybody around them would then be scrutinizing them for said act, so...

Mortifer said:
Is there anything from stopping us from using Tell The Truth, and then swap to a Demonstration if they ask for proof and/or don't believe us?
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Nope.

Bommelom said:
@PoptartProdigy, kinda unrelated to this update, but does Kakara know if it's possible for Seers to speak to people in their dreams?
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She does not know (which is distinct from it being possible or impossible).

Lailoken said:
"Why can't we just bake him a cake?"​
"He doesn't like cake. It needs to be filling."

"-but, birthday bean dip? How does that even work?"​
"It probably won't, but it's worth a try."

"What does that even mean? Why don't you just make you're own?"​
-because they're probably paranoid about me with him, but not about me with you, or you with him. "Dad's taking me on a trip that day, but he'll love it. Trust me."

"I trust you about as far as I can throw you."​
"You've been getting better at that."

"I'll beat you one of these days."​
"You really won't. Look, just be happy that we don't have to barbecue a whole dinosaur or something."

"He'd hate that. He's a vegetarian."​
"He's a what?"

"He's really sweet, and not everybody's a rabid carnivore, Bells, even if he does pig out almost as hard as you. At least I haven't seen him accidentally take a bite out of a metal table yet."​
It's not my fault! Everything tastes the same in this form. "I meant to do that."

"You chewed. You swallowed. You jingled."​
"Shuttup. -or, I won't help you with your first crush."

"I don't need your- He's not my first- He's not my crush- shuttup!"​
"Blush harder and keep mashing."

"Where did you even get these things? I've never seen them before."​
"They're rare and special. He'll love them."

"They taste funny."​
"What- wait, don't eat thos-"​
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Pfhaha. That's good, although I have to ask: Bells? Is that because she jingled after eating the table?
 
KaintukeeBob said:
That went far better than it had any right to.

Do you people go all-in before looking at your cards? Because I think you go all-in before looking at your cards.

In any case, Yay! We don't have to murder our first friend's whole family!

And this vote looks hella fragmented.
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Actually, yes. Yes I do.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
Moderate, likely. The Seer stigma is not as severe as the Sorcerer stigma. For most it's legitimately how the Seers act that puts them off. So if the Lord can avoid that act, they'll be fine. Of course, everybody around them would then be scrutinizing them for said act, so...
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Well so far we don't seem to be having any troubles there... maybe its because our teacher is apparently a prodigy in the "not pissing people off department."

Then I remember he threatened to kill our parents if they didn't name us Scion.... yeah I get where the Stigma comes from.
 
[X] Tell the truth. It's not like you would lie about being a Seer.
-[X] Offer to demonstrate the truth. That vision you suppressed earlier is still nagging at the back of your skull, it would be simple enough to let it in for a quick look and some white eyes. It might be enough evidence if they don't believe you, or want confirmation.
 
@PoptartProdigy
Just in case I missed it do we know why the Senzu have such loyalty to Jaffur?

Is it because he's the best hope for the Vegetan people compared to his dear old diddums or is there something more?
 
Lailoken said:
I'm guessing that the result of eating a metal table would be a bit of teasing and a nickname for use during future teasing.
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Makes sense. I'll give that a non-canon. Senzu beans are too valuable to use in a bean dip. That's hilarious, though.

Alex pears said:
Do we think we could?

Its one thing to go rouge for the other reasons they mentioned, but they're efforts center around him as the keystone.

Even excluding the other factors this level of devotion was pre sealing and is interesting so I'm curious.
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Yeah, I'll have Kakara ask next update unless somebody has a problem with that.
 
[X] Tell the truth. It's not like you would lie about being a Seer.
-[X] Offer to demonstrate the truth. That vision you suppressed earlier is still nagging at the back of your skull, it would be simple enough to let it in for a quick look and some white eyes. It might be enough evidence if they don't believe you, or want confirmation.
-[X] Afterwards, ask how Jaron's been watched, because we haven't sensed anyone and we're one of the best ki sensors in the world.
-[X] And if he's willing why they're so devoted to Jaffur? This goes beyond loyalty to a Lord and you noticed it before the Sealing even occurred.
 
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[X] Tell the truth. It's not like you would lie about being a Seer.
-[X] Offer to demonstrate the truth. That vision you suppressed earlier is still nagging at the back of your skull, it would be simple enough to let it in for a quick look and some white eyes. It might be enough evidence if they don't believe you, or want confirmation.
-[X] Afterwards, ask how Jaron's been watched, because we haven't sensed anyone and we're one of the best ki sensors in the world.

I imagine we can trust him to not freak out- he's good buddies with his Sorceror and the Seer stigma is less bad.
 
@PoptartProdigy
Something's been nagging me in the background, but I think it was when Dandeer said something to Bartel about Jaffur having an "obsession" with us.

My request is two fold
1. Am I miss remembering
2. If so in what context was this supposed to be?
 
PoptartProdigy said:
Makes sense. I'll give that a non-canon. Senzu beans are too valuable to use in a bean dip. That's hilarious, though.
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Well, the theory was that he needs a pulse of power to break the masque, and Senzu beans are both a clandestine source of immense concentrated energy, and inherently healing and restorative. Like she said, it probably wouldn't work, but it's worth a shot before resorting to more drastic approaches.
 
Hey @PoptartProdigy
So I just had a completely unrelated super early lore question.

We know the enemy attacked after several original z-warrior's had died, leaving only Piccolo, Tien and Gohan, which implies that their had to be at least some gap of time between Goku and Vegeta dying and the Enemy arriving, wherein the original Z warriors were still active at protecting the earth.

What I want to ask is several fold, how powerful compared to say the end of their relevance in DBZ/Super did the z-warriors end up from the necessary training to pick up the slack, how did Krillin and Yamcha die, old age or battle, I imagine that because Maron was a fighter she at least had some training from Krillin and 18, and we know 18 is still around, maybe? Also before the Enemy showed up did any other interesting fights happen on earth?
 
Lailoken said:
Well, the theory was that he needs a pulse of power to break the masque, and Senzu beans are both a clandestine source of immense concentrated energy, and inherently healing
and restorative. Like she said, it probably wouldn't work, but it's worth a shot before resorting to more drastic approaches.
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They don't increase power level, I'm afraid, so no on that one.

anailater said:
Hey @PoptartProdigy
So I just had a completely unrelated super early lore question.

We know the enemy attacked after several original z-warrior's had died, leaving only Piccolo, Tien and Gohan, which implies that their had to be at least some gap of time between Goku and Vegeta dying and the Enemy arriving, wherein the original Z warriors were still active at protecting the earth.

What I want to ask is several fold, how powerful compared to say the end of their relevance in DBZ/Super did the z-warriors end up from the necessary training to pick up the slack, how did Krillin and Yamcha die, old age or battle, I imagine that because Maron was a fighter she at least had some training from Krillin and 18, and we know 18 is still around, maybe? Also before the Enemy showed up did any other interesting fights happen on earth?
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Some of this is covered by "The Decline," in the Lore Screen's History section; namely, it was a decade after Goku and Vegeta died that the Enemy came. As for the rest: Krillin and Yamcha died of old age. Power-wise, as mentioned in the entry, Piccolo became a god, and the rest all trained up as high as they could. Goten and Trunks were both SSJ2, and Trunks went SSJ3 during the fight with the Enemy. The humans were less strong by a wide margin, but still formidable enough to give the strongest possible version of Buu a good fight. 18 did leave Earth when Krillin died, and Buu followed afterwards to try and convince her to come home. If 18's tech held out, she's still out there, and Buu definitely is unless something killed him. Nobody kept a close enough track of 17 to figure out if he went with or not. There were many interesting fights, but all are outside the scope of this quest.

Andres110 said:
What about my idea regarding using 10 omakes to get a skill-up?
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Ultimately going to give a no on that one, with the new system.
 
@PoptartProdigy
Sorry if this has been asked or is in the Lore section.

Ahem.

If I remember correctly we were originally meant to be the bridge between the Goku and Vegta clans (by we I mean Us and Jaffur) possibly through marriage and who knows, if we successfully navigate this mine field that is the sealing that may still happen.

In any case are there any other examples in history of two lords marrying each other?
 
PoptartProdigy said:
18 did leave Earth when Krillin died, and Buu followed afterwards to try and convince her to come home. If 18's tech held out, she's still out there, and Buu definitely is unless something killed him. Nobody kept a close enough track of 17 to figure out if he went with or not.
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This brings up something I hadn't considered before.
It would make sense that if Gohan is hanging out in the afterlife most of the others must be as well, and if 18 is still alive, again questionable, Krillin would almost certainly be waiting for her.
But when 18 dies will she go to heaven, and I dont mean will she go to hell, will she go anywhere? A lot is left to the imagination about the robotisation of Lapis and Lazuli, how much do they remember, can lapis and lazuli even be said to be the same people as 17 and 18, what percentage of them was robot and how much human and so on.

Obviously people with robotic parts can go to the after life
After all Frieza was in hell, and in hell he was fully organic without the slapdash mech job he had when he died.
So this raises 2 important questions, if mechanical parts dont translate to the afterlife, can 18 even go there, and if she goes and her mechanics are replaced with organics, would she be 18 or lapis, and would Lapis have the same memories as 18.

Also this would later in the story give us an excuse to talk to Krillin, the best Z-fighter, in the same way we do Gohan, so I'm very for 18 being out there and him waiting.
 
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