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Dragon Ball: After the End

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Alex pears said:
Touche, the point is they can if they want to and if they can see the Future (sometimes) then they should be able to tell that being rude isn't going to help... much anyway.
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But when was the last time anybody replayed Mass Effect without skipping almost all of the background dialogue? Sure, you'll listen all the way through for the climactic scenes (maybe), but the stuff that's not going to matter anyway?
 
PoptartProdigy said:
But when was the last time anybody replayed Mass Effect without skipping almost all of the background dialogue? Sure, you'll listen all the way through for the climactic scenes (maybe), but the stuff that's not going to matter anyway?
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Raises hand awkwardly.

I haven't replayed them in a while TBF.

Might do it again soon with Andromeda coming out.

Back to focus would this count as a victory for us, cause we certainly accomplished all and more that we came her to do?
 
Alex pears said:
Touche, the point is they can if they want to and if they can see the Future (sometimes) then they should be able to tell that being rude isn't going to help... much anyway.
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Look.

If you don't drink five litres of cold brew coffee by tomorrow your going to die.

I can't tell you why, but you've got to do it. I'm a Seer and I've SEEN it.

OI, don't call me that! I'm trying to save your life.

"LISTEN HERE YOU BITCHY LITTLE SHIT, YOU WILL DRINK THIS FUCKING COFFEE NOW OR I WILL, AND THEN I'LL TAKE A GOOD LONG PISS ON YOUR GRAVE ON THURSDAY"
 
Sucal said:
Look.

If you don't drink five litres of cold brew coffee by tomorrow your going to die.

I can't tell you why, but you've got to do it. I'm a Seer and I've SEEN it.

OI, don't call me that! I'm trying to save your life.

"LISTEN HERE YOU BITCHY LITTLE SHIT, YOU WILL DRINK THIS FUCKING COFFEE NOW OR I WILL, AND THEN I'LL TAKE A GOOD LONG PISS ON YOUR GRAVE ON THURSDAY"
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That might actually be inspirational if I actually drank coffee :p.

And yes that will just make me freak out... a lot.
 
So, is there any contingency in case a Scion dies before becoming Lord/Lady?
 
PoptartProdigy said:
My mother-in-law is one of eight children, each of whom has produced two or more children of their own. That, plus their (multiple, for the four who've had one or two divorces ) spouses, and their children's spouses, drives the numbers up fast. And then there's the fact that my wife's generation has started spawning, so there are yet more children being added. Then you toss in the various adoptees, and things go straight to hell. Plus there are still about five people from the grandparents' generation still kicking around and throwing another straw on the pile. We draw people up from North Carolina, Florida, and (now that my wife and I live there) Ohio. In theory the family unit is based in Illinois, but they just kind of exploded to the four winds and multiplied like rabbits in the Australian Outback. And they're so clannish that anybody who can even briefly be accounted a member gets party invitations for the rest of their days.

My own family is similar but can really only muster up to the high thirties or low forties when the big reunions swing around. Fortunately they're also crazy-localized and would riot if they got invitations out to Ohio. Reduces our workload quite a bit. Also fortunately, we're just having my wife's parents, her two brothers, and the brother's girlfriend that everybody knows is going to be the next in-law. Immediate family only on this one, and my own genetic accidents now live out West and cannot attend (woo!). My sister-in-law would be here as well, but is studying in Italy. So it'll be a seven-person meal for our first hosted Thanksgiving. Much more doable than the clan-wide doomstacks.

My father-in-law, meanwhile, is an only child. Go figure.

The guest obligations are sort of similar with our families, but the host really only asks for people to bring the small stuff (wine, chips, dip, etc.), or something they simply can't make for lack of equipment or experience. I know that's not even a regional thing so much as how it expressed in our specific family units, though, so I guess that's just a highly-varied standard.

Turkey's not for everyone. It is for me, though. :D
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PoptartProdigy said:
Discard and draw again. The Seers show up at one of the Scion's siblings' homes and congratulate them on their promotion.
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I meant from a PR point of view, since supposedly the Scions represent the traits of their ancestor. How do they spin it for their sibling? Do they choose the next in line or the one that acts the most as the ancestor in question?

I mean, if we died and one of our siblings become the next Scion, would it be Mato even if he grew to be extremely different to Goku? If Jaffur dies, would his sister automatically become Scion or could someone who embodies the traits of a saiyan, like Betarel (had the Senzu not rebelled), become Scion since he is also Yanmar's grandson if they were popular enough?
 
Bah, Saiyan kids die all the time. It's part of their reproduction strategy.
"Honey, Romaine broke my favorite vase."
"Okay, I threw Romaine into a mountain!"
"Did she die?"
[Yes]
- "Looks like it."
- "Okay, get back here and let's make another."
[No]
- "She's just getting stronger from it."
- "Are you sure you're doing it right? Try again."
 
Hey, here's an idea for dealing with the simmering leadership crisis: start elevating more lords, subordinate to Vegeta and Goku, based on their embodiment of the traits of other Z-Fighters. Start with Gohan, since he would probably be the least controversial and most benevolent.

The lords can't maintain order over the current population, but a larger number could. If the secret to mastery wasn't shared they could be taken down by the Vegeta and Goku lords if necessary while still adding a lot of punch in the event of a rebellion.

The Vegetans might be unhappy about it, but their leadership crisis makes this the perfect time and the only intact authority figure is a member of the Cult, which recognizes Gohan as an actual, literal god. Combined with Kakara's popularity among the Cult and his recent invention of popular excommunication, his options for objections would be severely curbed. If the regent objects, well, she doesn't have any way to enforce it, has already been told to shove off, and the intact Vegetan Super-Saiyan can't exactly tap her official authority or rally with her even if he agrees.
 
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Alternatively, we give right of super saiyan to the leaders of the combat schools and enlist their help in riding herd.

A lord Gohan has good reasons to demand FPSSJ , while empowered grand masters don't so much have that cultural expectation behind them.
 
I don't think that is a good idea. Both Lords are descendants of the first Lady, which is why the Vegetans respect the existence of Clan Goku. They wouldn't be as tolerant for other clans. Furthermore, once you start lowering restrictions and upbringing heads into Lord status, other heads will wonder why not them instead, which would make it more likely for there to be super saiyan rebellions, which makes it both more likely for someone to rediscover the FPSS method and harder to keep PL concealed from the Galaxy.

Raising them on the basis of the traits of the other Z fighters also has the problem that it doesn't mean their descendants would share those traits, as explained today, the whole "embodying the traits of our ancestors" is actually just PR and not what actually happens. Furthermore, while having subordinate Lords would give the Vegetans someone to follow other than Dandeer... it would give them someone to follow other than their lord. You either have them being loyal to Dandeer or have them being against her and both of them can cause problems without resolving the issue of the lack of a Lord and Scion. Even ignoring that, it wouldn't do that much for the Gokuns since we are mediators. Sure, it would save time, but it doesn't help that much when things are calm and when things are dire like in the regency of Oni's daugther, it is a coin toss (though it would have the advantage of making it clearer who is the regent).

The current problem is not because the saiyan population is too large but because two of their leader figures suddenly disappeared. I don't think giving super saiyan rights to other heads would do that much good.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
But when was the last time anybody replayed Mass Effect without skipping almost all of the background dialogue? Sure, you'll listen all the way through for the climactic scenes (maybe), but the stuff that's not going to matter anyway?
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*raises hand* I don't ever skip.
PoptartProdigy said:
Discard and draw again. The Seers show up at one of the Scion's siblings' homes and congratulate them on their promotion.
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I have a question: what do they have in the books for if all the children of a Lord/Lady dies, the Lord/Lady dies and the Matriach/Patriach dies?
 
Bakkasama said:
I meant from a PR point of view, since supposedly the Scions represent the traits of their ancestor. How do they spin it for their sibling? Do they choose the next in line or the one that acts the most as the ancestor in question?

I mean, if we died and one of our siblings become the next Scion, would it be Mato even if he grew to be extremely different to Goku? If Jaffur dies, would his sister automatically become Scion or could someone who embodies the traits of a saiyan, like Betarel (had the Senzu not rebelled), become Scion since he is also Yanmar's grandson if they were popular enough?
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The Seers decide. Also, everybody bear in mind: I said, "Typifies the traits of the saiyans of old," not, "is a carbon-copy of Goku or Vegeta." More a racial heritage than a specific ancestral one. Which raises the question of how a pacifist managed, doesn't it?

Lailoken said:
Before, or after?
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After. Although before would be morbidly amusing.

Alex pears said:
@PoptartProdigy I had a look, but I couldn't find it any where.

Since Golden Ozaru is a thing in this quest is super sayin 4 a thing as well?
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I have remained firmly non-committal on that front.

Gore17 said:
I have a question: what do they have in the books for if all the children of a Lord/Lady dies, the Lord/Lady dies and the Matriach/Patriach dies?
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Same old, same old. Discard, draw, have a regency. In theory, the whole family tree could be wiped out in one go, but that's never happened.
 
Lailoken said:
...can we go through the details on her siblings again?
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From one to four, and oldest to youngest:

1. Kakara. Player Character. Ten years old.

2. Mato. Brother. Nine years old. Extremely envious of Kakara's position and possessed of a severe anger problem.

3. Fasha. Sister. Eight years old. Highly attached to younger brother and wishes Big Sis spent more time at home. Happy that Mommy, Daddy, and Sissy are no longer fighting.

4. Endivan. Brother. Six years old. Baby of the family, very active but not terribly social. Still moderately confused about whether or not people are angry at each other.
 
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