Dragon Ball: After the End
OfSpaceandTime
Chaotically Inclined
- Location
- Ohio
- Pronouns
- Anything non-rude.
I feel this would probably be a pretty good idea for a write in.
Also something we should be keeping tabs on, too. Not just one usage of sight to see because the future is flexible.
- Location
- Texas
What if we applied the principle of mastered super saiyan blue to regular super saiyan? Create a whole new form that perfectly controls the power of the first super saiyan form. Mastered super saiyan.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
No, we'd just have all the namekians of sufficient PL to be worth drawing from inside the katchin with us.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Once before, yes. You can.
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
Next question: Can sufficient ki-charge let them make Katchin long-term?
- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
That's what Full Power super saiyan is.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
They have tried, and no.
- Location
- Middle of Nowhere
So anyone else just realize that this is unlocking potential, and not the other thing?
- Location
- Italy
The reasoning of the law is: achieving ssj2 is dangerous and irresponsible. We have no way to achieve it without it being sensed from a nearby system, which means whoever transforms is breaking the masquerade in the most dangerous way possible, likely bringing the enemy to our people".
If we can achieve the form without being detected there is no downside, though we'll be somewhat limited in when/where we can use it. Still, it would let us raise our base/untransformed cap, so there's that at least.
I doubt they're THAT good unlockers, as the only one shown with that ability was a kaioshin who fused with a witch, but we can hope!
That doesn't say anything about the Enemy's ability to sense god ki. It only shows its strenght, which is at the very least enough to defeat a newly transformed super saiyan god (and as ALL the gods are very worried, that's still underestimating him a lot)
there is a small chance perfect clones might work differently from normal clones. If the problem was that you gain nothing by fusing completely identical beings, maybe fusing a saiyan masque and a human masque could make a difference? Still worth testing IF/WHEN we gain fusion dance (or simply trying recombining different versions of Kakara).
..could a supercharged "create katchin" spell maybe hopefully be permanent (or at least last much longer without dedicated attention)? WE NEED TO TEST IT!
AND WHAT ABOUT A SUPERCHARGED UNLOCKING POTENTIAL SPELL?
I think there was a similar form in the rp. Gilded Super Saiyan, basically a super saiyan with perfect control of his ki, such that his aura remains a lot closer to his body instead of being all flame-like. If i remember right it was around 1.5-1.6 billions, still a bit weaker than a ssj2. If we can get ssj2 we probably don't need to bother with it
LIST OF RELATIVELY EASY EXPERIMENT/THINGS TO TRY NEXT TURN. DO ADD YOUR OWN, WE CAN CHOOSE THE BEST ONES!
1)try to reunite multiforms in different forms without losing access to the different ki pools (ssj-base-oozaru)
2)ask about the details of unlocking magic, and if it could be used on us and-or on Perika to make us stronger.
3)meditate while in oozaru form to access the base ki pool, or in base form to access the oozaru ki pool (probably not worth it right now, i know. It's likely to take a long time, unless unlocking magic can help)
4)when training Perika, do it in Full Sayan Masque. not exactly an experiment, but it could help. Possibly try the oozaru meditation thing while full saiyan.
5)gather energy for the genkidama from inside Bassoon, try to boost him with it. Let's see how much power he's able to deal with
6)supercharged spells. What can the Namekians do with a full planet+ 4 ssj grade 3 multiforms of ki? Permanent Katchin? Old Kaioshin level unlock?
7)While we CAN use perfect multiform, we use nearly all of our ki with the technique. Could Healing magic restore the used Ki? good both to have more time to train it and during the invasion.
8)...Is it possible to boost the dragon balls by giving ki to Porunga or to the Guru? Ask, consider testing depending on the answer. We might even ask Porunga itself, he's still there!
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Hm.
Well, maybe we can help them by using Spirit Saiyan to supercharge other spells? Do they have spells that can last until actively triggered, and that would be effective as weapons if supercharged?
Well, maybe we can help them by using Spirit Saiyan to supercharge other spells? Do they have spells that can last until actively triggered, and that would be effective as weapons if supercharged?
- Location
- Italy
mh... maybe we could use creation magic for narcotics/poisons, kinda lika the gas grenades used in the prison during the tournament??
...IF they create their own spaceships with magic, maybe one created by a supercharged spell would be better/faster? We should ask how, in general, having more ki affects their specific branches of magic. do they get more durable objects? Would a spaceships be faster? Would a sword be sharper? do you need more ki to unlock the potential of a stronger being? Is supercharged healing able to affect diseases normally uncurable (like Goku's heart virus)?
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
I think the problem with the Spirit Bomb is that for it to have a relevant effect, we need to be telling large numbers of people about it/reaching out to them when casting the technique. That takes the list of people who know there are Saiyans here from "Bassoon and the Elders" to "most/all Namekians". I don't think we can be confident enough that none of them will spill the beans, deliberately or otherwise.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
We managed to use the Spirit Bomb against Dazarel without the majority of Garenhulders ever realizing the girl they were donating their energy to was anything other than just another human.
Why not do the same here?
The danger is that someone will find out there's a Spirit Bomb user on Namek, admittedly.
Why not do the same here?
The danger is that someone will find out there's a Spirit Bomb user on Namek, admittedly.
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
In principle, the Gilded Super Saiyan form operates under the same sort of idea as the manga's Complete Super Saiyan Blue - namely, sealing the energy that normally exits the body when one's powered up to full within the body, amping up one's power at some stamina cost. The Gilded form, however, operates mostly off of percentages - at the maximum Mato used during his one major use of the state, which was around ~85% I'd want to say, he was fighting at the level of 1.7 billion ish.
It is possible to seal 100% of your energy within your body, causing one's physical strength to possibly even surpass SSJ2's physical power(and drastically reducing your profile), but at cost - if 100% of your energy is sealed within yourself, it means 100%. No flight, no Ki blasts, no Ki projection at all. You're incredibly physically strong, and really fast, but you're basically stuck on the ground while it's active with no ranged options beyond "Yeet rocks at the opponent". Not to mention, like how Complete Blue is portrayed, the user's body temperature climbs a lot. While going 100% does mean you can have a last-ditch super-powerful blast of "All that energy sealed inside exploding outwards at an opponent", I'm calling it a last-ditch option for a reason.
Could Kakara access it? Yeah. Would she find the drawbacks to her liking? Prooooobably not.
It's really good for a cage fight, though.
It is possible to seal 100% of your energy within your body, causing one's physical strength to possibly even surpass SSJ2's physical power(and drastically reducing your profile), but at cost - if 100% of your energy is sealed within yourself, it means 100%. No flight, no Ki blasts, no Ki projection at all. You're incredibly physically strong, and really fast, but you're basically stuck on the ground while it's active with no ranged options beyond "Yeet rocks at the opponent". Not to mention, like how Complete Blue is portrayed, the user's body temperature climbs a lot. While going 100% does mean you can have a last-ditch super-powerful blast of "All that energy sealed inside exploding outwards at an opponent", I'm calling it a last-ditch option for a reason.
Could Kakara access it? Yeah. Would she find the drawbacks to her liking? Prooooobably not.
It's really good for a cage fight, though.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
- Location
- Bottom of the barrel
Namekians aren't old Kai.
Plus your assuming Kakara has Gohans true (wasted) potential
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
In general they can set traps like that.
Supercharge one of Bassoon's acceleration spells and you can yeet the next person to step on them out of the solar system. It'll wear off after a while, but it'll stay for a bit.
- Location
- Texas
I mean she can't access ss2 without triggering the plot so she needs something else to deal with those frieza race guys and there's no reason why she couldn't use the same principle on her higher forms, though I'm sure it would be harder the higher she went and 3 might be difficult depending on if the tail helps or not. I'm sure she could figure some way to make use of it, maybe learn to do it fast enough to where she can do it in short bursts sorta like Kaioken.
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
Once you hit SSJ2, you'd need to attain the Full-Power varient to even try to regain Gilded's strength, and even then SSJ2's naturally more violent with it's output, making Gilded that much more dangerous to use. Using it with SSJ3? Utter suicide. Forcing all one's energy out from one's reserves does not mix well with sealing all of one's energy within their body.
You probably could do some memey things with Gilded and Jaffur's style, though.
You probably could do some memey things with Gilded and Jaffur's style, though.
Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
- Location
- Something Clever
- Pronouns
- She/Her
...except that the Exiles upteched Garenhuld using knowledge from Earth, no? So RL human conventions should be maintained for them.
- Location
- Italy
once ssj2 is mastered the gilded variant could be a decent middle ground between ssj2 and ssj3. Less powerful than 3, but less draining/can be maintained for longer.
How strong would a full power ssj3 be has yet to be revealed, right? ( Not that I expect it to ever matter, the form is pretty much untrainable without some clever/magical workaround, but I'm kinda curious and I've not looked at the rp recently)
How strong would a full power ssj3 be has yet to be revealed, right? ( Not that I expect it to ever matter, the form is pretty much untrainable without some clever/magical workaround, but I'm kinda curious and I've not looked at the rp recently)
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
If we're at the point again of batting forth spoilered RP discussion, I think there's nothing to be gained by delaying on opening the vote. Go nuts, folks!
- Location
- Texas
Apparently ss3 can be mastered if you have a tail.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Theoretically... Katchin could hold Kakara if she went SSJ2, right? Both her Ki signature and the tantrum that would result? If so, it might be possible to use that as our way to beat both Haila -- and possibly even her brothers -- and give the Namekians the chance to seal her memories.
[X][KILL] Speak up now and remind them all that one, you're thirteen, and two, you actually have a fairly developed view of violence and killing which means that you're not actually willing to kill Haila in cold blood, since they all seem quite certain that you can win the fight without resorting to lethal force.
[X][KILL] Speak up now and remind them all that one, you're thirteen, and two, you actually have a fairly developed view of violence and killing which means that you're not actually willing to kill Haila in cold blood, since they all seem quite certain that you can win the fight without resorting to lethal force.
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
In GT, all it did was reduce the strain from "I only can hold the form for a few seconds" to "Normal SSJ3 Drain".
Besides, Poptart's only redeeming certain aspects from GT, and something tells me that entirely literal asspull isn't one of them.
Anyways, vote vote vote...
[X][MIND] Shielding. The number one immediate use you have in mind for this talent is shielding your mind from foreign influences. Dazarel begins helping you to refine the lightning shield.
[X][LURE] Get aggressive. Confirm his location and attack immediately. Get his guards away from him and throw up a katchin dome. Once that happens, you can fight him unimpeded.
[X][KILL] Speak up now and remind them all that one, you're thirteen, and two, you actually have a fairly developed view of violence and killing which means that you're not actually willing to kill Haila in cold blood, since they all seem quite certain that you can win the fight without resorting to lethal force.
[X][TRAP] Wish for the trap to be destroyed. (x1.1 vote weighting from, "Ambitious.")
Yeah, that should be about it.