The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
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Gohan is an amateur poser, who has yet to discover the ways of truly Fabulous PosingTM
Dragon Ball: After the End
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Aren't those basically just the Ginyu poses?
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Am I the only one here who actually liked Saiyaman? Because yes, I joked about his dress code but it wasn't that bad. Bulma thought it was cool too and she and Gohan are supposd to e the two smartests members of the group (not counting Dr. Brief, who didn't give his opinión).
- Location
- Australia
*spit take* EXCUSE ME!? Are you seriously equating that amateur trash to the majesty of the Ginyu Force's poses!?
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
*smirking* I assume you've all voted, then? I'm away from my computer. Would somebody care to tally?
Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - Dragon Ball: After the End | Page 141 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.4
[X] Don't accept or refuse his apology.
-[X] Help him to his feet.
-[X] Explain why.
--[X] He says he will accept punishment for reaching above his station but there is something else he must answer for first; taking advantage of the distress of his fellow saiyans in his search for power. Sincé he is willing to offer his life in penance, you will take it: he shall dedícate it to help others whenever he can until he makes amends for what he did. Then, on the day you become Lady, he will come to you and you shall pass judgement.
No. of Votes: 12
[X] Don't accept or refuse his apology.
-[X] Help him to his feet.
-[X] Explain why.
-[X] "Your apology is heartfelt, but it is misplaced, I cannot forgive or condemn you on behalf of the rest of the Faith. However, I ask that if you truly want redemption, then please work with me to help these people."
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Accept his apology.
-[X] Help him to his feet.
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Accept his apology.
-[X] We see he meant well and bear no hard feelings for his misjudgement
-[X] ...and give him a punishment.
--[X] He shall retire from his position, choosing a worthy (possibly temporary) successor. He will spend a year living among the families of the faith that will accept him, seeing what they need firsthand, and do what he can to aid them. After the year is up, the faith itself will make a final decision to leave him stripped of his position or return him to it. It's not just us he has unintentionally wronged, after all.
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Don't accept or refuse his apology.
-[X] Help him to his feet.
-[X] Explain why.
-[X] "Your apology is heartfelt, but it is misplaced, I cannot forgive or condemn you on behalf of the rest of the Faith. However, I ask that if you truly want redemption, then please work with me to help these people."
-[X] Also whisper to him that we need to talk about house matters, with emphasis on house.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Refuse his apology.
-[X] ...but offer no punishment.
-[X] I cannot accept your apology, for you have done nothing wrong. Instead, you should be commended, commended for being able to see the dark clouds on the horizon and knowing that fractured and apart the Saiyan race may indeed come undone by storm that is coming. You saw the darkness, and you saw our frailty, and acted to be the light in the darkness, the beacon of hope that would allow us to weather this storm. And that is no crime. Even if the way you went about your actions was wrong, the intent to help, the intent to strengthen us all - that is not, that cannot be wrong. Even as you say that you are not, and cannot be the light that keeps this approaching darkness at bay, Then I ask that you be the shutters of the lantern, to keep the heavy winds from blowing out the light, to be the oil that keeps the light going bright. We cannot stand alone and apart in these times... So instead I ask of you this -- will you help me to not only protect the faith, but to help protect and guide us all.
--[X] Help him to his feet
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 21
##### NetTally 1.7.4
[X] Don't accept or refuse his apology.
-[X] Help him to his feet.
-[X] Explain why.
--[X] He says he will accept punishment for reaching above his station but there is something else he must answer for first; taking advantage of the distress of his fellow saiyans in his search for power. Sincé he is willing to offer his life in penance, you will take it: he shall dedícate it to help others whenever he can until he makes amends for what he did. Then, on the day you become Lady, he will come to you and you shall pass judgement.
No. of Votes: 12
[X] Don't accept or refuse his apology.
-[X] Help him to his feet.
-[X] Explain why.
-[X] "Your apology is heartfelt, but it is misplaced, I cannot forgive or condemn you on behalf of the rest of the Faith. However, I ask that if you truly want redemption, then please work with me to help these people."
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Accept his apology.
-[X] Help him to his feet.
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Accept his apology.
-[X] We see he meant well and bear no hard feelings for his misjudgement
-[X] ...and give him a punishment.
--[X] He shall retire from his position, choosing a worthy (possibly temporary) successor. He will spend a year living among the families of the faith that will accept him, seeing what they need firsthand, and do what he can to aid them. After the year is up, the faith itself will make a final decision to leave him stripped of his position or return him to it. It's not just us he has unintentionally wronged, after all.
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Don't accept or refuse his apology.
-[X] Help him to his feet.
-[X] Explain why.
-[X] "Your apology is heartfelt, but it is misplaced, I cannot forgive or condemn you on behalf of the rest of the Faith. However, I ask that if you truly want redemption, then please work with me to help these people."
-[X] Also whisper to him that we need to talk about house matters, with emphasis on house.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Refuse his apology.
-[X] ...but offer no punishment.
-[X] I cannot accept your apology, for you have done nothing wrong. Instead, you should be commended, commended for being able to see the dark clouds on the horizon and knowing that fractured and apart the Saiyan race may indeed come undone by storm that is coming. You saw the darkness, and you saw our frailty, and acted to be the light in the darkness, the beacon of hope that would allow us to weather this storm. And that is no crime. Even if the way you went about your actions was wrong, the intent to help, the intent to strengthen us all - that is not, that cannot be wrong. Even as you say that you are not, and cannot be the light that keeps this approaching darkness at bay, Then I ask that you be the shutters of the lantern, to keep the heavy winds from blowing out the light, to be the oil that keeps the light going bright. We cannot stand alone and apart in these times... So instead I ask of you this -- will you help me to not only protect the faith, but to help protect and guide us all.
--[X] Help him to his feet
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 21
- Location
- Australia
He was trying to get enough authority that he could challenge the Lords.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Nom nom.
I like what he tried to do with it and the costume design wasn't bad. The coloring on the other hand... the poses and he did the "deep voice" too hard.
But he came off kind of silly and adorkable for it, so it played to his strengths and probably kept a lot of people in charge from being as worried as they would have been otherwise.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Guldo used that pose in Ginyu Force team poses. IIRC
- Location
- Australia
You remember incorrectly.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Consulting my local search engine, you are correct. That pose is pretty clearly inspired by one of Guldo's poses tho.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
He conspired and manipulated the situation so that he could gain power over members of the faith, a fifth of the saiyan population, in order to gain political power akin to that of the lords. Which is reason enough for us to be pissed since he tried to usurp us, and is made worse by the fact that him and the Faith believe the Lords rule because of divine authority.
Perhaps it is not the best analogy since the methods Celeran used are not that bad but imagine it as akin to a charácter from Game of Thrones, say, Littlefinger, manipulating what happens to gain power, only that he does so because of an ideal he believes in instead of ambition like, I dunno, capitalism. Even if he did believe that he could save westeros with the power of capitalism, he would still be a dude from a knightly house trying to become Lord Paragon equivalent from smallfolk support. We would be the high nobility and him our vassal and we would be naturally pissed at him since he has not the blood or caste for that power.
Edit: Now that I think of it, why did I overcomplicated things with that example? Just compare him to the high sparrow but with slightly less murderhobos in his ranks. That should be close enough.
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And why should Kakara care about that more then the fact that he was trying to help people?
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Because for all that he is pious he is still taking orders from a house involved in three rebellions in the last two hundred years and tge social situation is a powder keg that might blow into civil war if you push too hard? Because even though we hate Dandeer the faithful were working themselves into a mob? Because there are at least three full power super saiyan that would not take kindly to it, one of which sees it as heresy and another slaughtered the last house to rebel? Because he is still manipulating people for a power grab? Because his idea of helping was to stand against those in power, our family among them, and the examples he gave about similar situations in the past were resolved by killing and violence?
No, no, you missed the point: why should Kakara care about the "rising above his station" part?
- Location
- United States
Whatever and however our character feels about politics, letting someone usurp power from you sets dangerous precedents. Especially when that someone is head of a religious organization that counts a fifth of your population in its membership. And tried to whip that fifth into a mob.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
It's basically the godly version of False Super Saiyan (the thing Goku used vs. Lord Slug; a quick Google Search will turn up plenty of examples), or so it stands for this fanon. Unless you're ever up against a god as a mortal and need the boost really bad, you're unlikely to ever use this one.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
@PoptartProdigy
What happens if a loyalist saiyan hits SSJ from trauma when fighting against a rebellion? Say the rebels kill their spouse or something?
What happens if a loyalist saiyan hits SSJ from trauma when fighting against a rebellion? Say the rebels kill their spouse or something?
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Complications. It's never happened given that the Lords' presence tends to remove the need of the transformation, but in theory they'd simply be banned from accessing it ever again.
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
Would they still be permitted to train their base power past the (now-broken) non-SSJ cap?
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Probably not, given that the Lords are less concerned with that than the precedent set by an unrestricted SSJ. Again, it's never come up, but if it ever did...