[X] Yammar and Vegeta Vegeta vs. Jaffur.
Because I really want to see that fight.
[X] Endivan vs. Oni.
Because that one also sounds really darn awesome.
[X] The toughest fight between Super and the Enemy.
Because that could be fun.
[X] Goku and Vegeta's final fight.
Because that sounds interesting.
That fight never actually happened. The first time Berra and Jaffur fought, Yammar wasn't present. The second time Berra and Jaffur fought, Yammar was busy fighting Apra until Apra went down, by which point Berra was already down due to Dandelor breaking his mind control spell.
[In hindsight I really regret not having Dandelor counterspell Yammar instead of Berra. Things could have ended rather differently in that case, albeit for reasons we didn't know at the time]
Sounds fun, but the fight is going to be one big censor bar (to avoid giving away spoilers on the Enemy), or it's going to be almost entirely imagination (because while Kakara knows what the Enemy looks like, she knows nothing about how he fights)
Sounds fun, but the fight is going to be one big censor bar (to avoid giving away spoilers on the Enemy), or it's going to be almost entirely imagination (because while Kakara knows what the Enemy looks like, she knows nothing about how he fights)
I think they meant the thoughest fight they had after Dragon Ball Super happened but before the Enemy arrived, since it says in the prologue that they fought several enemies in between. So it would be an OC enemy, but not the Enemy.
[X] I'd like to see Jaffur in Kakara's place inside of Bassoon's mind selecting to go to Pura. Not because it would be faster or more efficient, but because it would allow him, through Bassoon, to tear those motherfuckers appart.
[X] I would like to see you write an interlude in which two random hotheads get into a fight over a girl who, in disgust, enters the frey and kicks both of their asses. Bonus points if the hotheads aren't both male.
[X] Endivan vs Tarsus
[X] Beyond Blue Jakara vs Rose Vegehan
[X] Post Goku and Vegeta Z Fighters vs Alien attack on earth (any, pre Enemy because that ones probably not happening)
[X] Future Trunks and Shin vs Dabura and Babidi
[X] Berra vs Vegeta
[X] Goku and Vegeta's final fight
[X] A group of bandits float down to surround a lone cloaked figure on the outskirts of town. What terrible odds. For them.
[X] Endivan vs Tarsus
[X] Post Goku and Vegeta Z Fighters vs Alien attack on earth (any, pre Enemy because that ones probably not happening)
Sounds fun, but the fight is going to be one big censor bar (to avoid giving away spoilers on the Enemy), or it's going to be almost entirely imagination (because while Kakara knows what the Enemy looks like, she knows nothing about how he fights)
Oops, I phrased that poorly. I should have said "the Enemy's arrival". Regardless, we do know he can summon a kill-anything field, and that he's a mage. Those two suggest a bizarre and terrifying style which heavily resembles the prologue of Rihaku's As-Yet-Unnamed Quest.
(Was that quest an inspiration, @PoptartProdigy?)
Oops, I phrased that poorly. I should have said "the Enemy's arrival". Regardless, we do know he can summon a kill-anything field, and that he's a mage. Those two suggest a bizarre and terrifying style which heavily resembles the prologue of Rihaku's As-Yet-Unnamed Quest.
(Was that quest an inspiration, @PoptartProdigy?)
A famous or infamous quest writer, depending who you ask. Does basically nothing but run quests, one at a time, and does things like give mechanical rewards to like count on posts. I gather the writing quality is relatively good, but I've never checked out any of their quests, so this is all second or third hand.
Oops, I phrased that poorly. I should have said "the Enemy's arrival". Regardless, we do know he can summon a kill-anything field, and that he's a mage. Those two suggest a bizarre and terrifying style which heavily resembles the prologue of Rihaku's As-Yet-Unnamed Quest.
Though we do know that the Enemy at least took some time to hack through the Z fighters. He may have been toying with some or all of them, but either he didn't just casually push 'delete' on them all with his Kill Anything Field, or he couldn't.
Obviously waaaay too soon to make assumptions about which.
Though we do know that the Enemy at least took some time to hack through the Z fighters. He may have been toying with some or all of them, but either he didn't just casually push 'delete' on them all with his Kill Anything Field, or he couldn't.
Obviously waaaay too soon to make assumptions about which.
Tien was as strong as Buu at time of release. Gohan was SSjB, and almost certainly a stronger SSjB than Goku and Vegeta were in resurrection F. Unless his power scales with his opponents or something, it's pretty clear from his ability to beat Gohan that most of the Z fighters weren't remotely in his league (also from him, say, almost oneshotting oob, or actually oneshotting SSj2 Goten).
I'm thinking more in terms of, say, Piccolo, who had achieved divine status and who apparently "bought time" against the Enemy. Plus, unless the whole gang knew Instant Transmission, there was some travel time involved.
What I'm getting at is that I don't think the Enemy's powers enable him to just casually push 'delete' on everything, even if he can casually obliterate a mere Super-Saiyan Two or what have you.
I'm thinking more in terms of, say, Piccolo, who had achieved divine status and who apparently "bought time" against the Enemy. Plus, unless the whole gang knew Instant Transmission, there was some travel time involved.
What I'm getting at is that I don't think the Enemy's powers enable him to just casually push 'delete' on everything, even if he can casually obliterate a mere Super-Saiyan Two or what have you.
Hm, here's an idea, what if, and here me out here, it's like the Shrink Ray from Despicable Me?
That is, he can simply delete anything, but the more power and mass it has, the more of a 'cooldown' he has. He's actually not that impressive compared to a SSB, but he's weird like Buu or Zamasu, so you need disproportionate power to kill him, or else he'll put himself together again. I wouldn't be surprised if he were some kind of sentient negative Spirit Bomb, maybe some last gasp of the Tuffles gestating on the negativity towards the Saiyans for all that genocide they did back in the day, which would mean, much like Buu, atomizing him would do nothing.
Questwriter. Usually very good at writing, but has only finished one, and it was one of the two I didn't like. This is the quest I was talking about; I also really liked this one.
Though we do know that the Enemy at least took some time to hack through the Z fighters. He may have been toying with some or all of them, but either he didn't just casually push 'delete' on them all with his Kill Anything Field, or he couldn't.
Obviously waaaay too soon to make assumptions about which.
I think it's because he's not as fast as high-level Ki fighters - he can't hit them very easily, he just kills them stone dead when he does.
Then again, that is just a guess.
I think it's because he's not as fast as high-level Ki fighters - he can't hit them very easily, he just kills them stone dead when he does.
Then again, that is just a guess.
and it's been centuries since then. It's very likely he got stronger. It seems he fought mostly evenly with Frieza, maybe even killed him, and Golden Frieza should be stronger than (just achieved) ssj blue gohan. Especially after the tournament of power (and, if canon to the quest, the broly movie)
Well, broly's new uber-powerfull forms can be justified relatively easily.
One form was described as "power of an oozaru while in human form", so it might simply replace base pl with oozaru pl without transforming, maybe as a first step to combining both pool (and, adding the ssj boosts might result in ssj4)
The legendary form he uses might be a mix of legendary super saiyan and super saiyan rage. He unlocked divine ki by fighting those who used it, kinda like Trunks.
Though.. Would Broly have become a god too once he died then?
maybe the epic 1v1 Goku vs Vegeta actually had a third, secret participant?!
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[X] [ASK] Bassoon, could you arrange a 'car pool' with another Namekian returning to Namek? That way we might be able to skip some of the supply requirements and maybe help more people get to Namek faster.
[X] [ASK] Bassoon, What's the general power level range for Champions? How powerful are the 'big players'?
[X] [ASK] Bassoon, our Legends speak of Namekian Elders who can unlock the potential of warriors. Is this technique still known, and is it possible for us to get it done to us?
[X] [ASK] How good are the ki sensing abilities of the natives of these planets... I have an idea about using the Genki Dama while in your head, and it might be detected if they have a way to detect things like that...
[X] [ASK] Are there any general advancements in the usage of ki in the past 300 years? We should compare notes.
Shin lowers his hands, smiling proudly as he surveys his work. He nods to himself before turning and bowing. "Thank you, Zeno-sama, Zeno-sama, for this dispensation."
"Anything for a friend!" chirp the childish gods, turning to grin at Goku.
Shin suppresses a sigh. At the very least, he reflects, straightening, they will stop taking an interest in us once Goku-san is gone.
After a moment, he feels terribly guilty about that. It is a thought completely unworthy of a kai, much less one of his station. Goku is a valued champion not just of Earth, but of all the universe! He is a personal friend of Zeno-sama -- both of him! -- himself! He is...he...
...he is my friend, and he deserves better than this, sighs Shin, turning wholly.
Goku bows to the twin Zenos, wincing as his spine creaks. "I'm real grateful! Vegeta and I sure could use a good spot for our final fight! And I'm sure the Supreme Kai enjoyed the project!"
Shin manages to smile. "It was...entertaining, I will admit. I've made no life today, but it felt...good...to create this much." He glances over his shoulder.
Vegeta steps forward, level with Shin, his arms crossed as he surveys the view. "Hm. A fitting arena for our final battle. You have my thanks." The old saiyan does not make clear whom he was addressing; likely, that is deliberate. Instead, eyes as steady as ever, the prince surveys the infant universe, spun out of the Zenos' will and filled by Shin's hands. A new place for Creation to roost. A new blister of reality amidst the void.
The only place large enough to truly host Vegeta and Goku's final moments without fear of collateral damage.
Shin, despite the mood, smiles to himself. Making all of this, stretching his abilities so far, feels...good. It feels right. It feels like the final casting-off of his failures following Majin Buu and continuing right up until the Tournament of Power. Shin takes a deep breath, enjoying the pure scent of the world he made in order to observe the process.
"I'm actually a little jealous," drawls Beerus, observing the untouched cosmos with a glint in his eye. "All these lovely planets, and I won't get to destroy any of them! I guess that means you won't have to get your work checked, Supreme Kai." He nudges Shin with an elbow.
Shin rolls his eyes, knocking his counterpart's arm away. "Restrain yourself, Beerus. There will be plenty of work for you back home."
Beerus looks away, snorting. "Ruin my fun, why don't you? They wouldn't miss one." He remains at rest, though.
"Hey, Supreme Kai!"
Shin blinks, turning to see Goku approaching. "Yes, Goku?"
"Thanks again," says Goku, grinning. "I can't tell you how much this means to me."
Shin smiles, more easily this time. "It was my pleasure. The least I could do. I...you've done so much for us all, Goku. We owe you this much."
Goku chuckles, rubbing at the back of his head. "Well, I sure did have my share of screwups, too! But thanks. I'm looking forward to seeing what Vegeta and I can do with this place!"
"You'll destroy it, I imagine," says Shin, shaking his head. Then he stops, sighing. "...I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself. We'll miss you, Goku."
"Well hey, don't be like that!" replies the saiyan. "We'll just show up in the Other World! You'll see us again real soon!"
Shin's smile starts trying to curdle. He keeps it from doing so. "Yes, I'm...sure we'll see each other often," he replies, trying not to think of his conversation with Yemma-sama earlier that day. "It might even be easier." He pushes the thoughts aside and smiles up at Goku. "I look forward to seeing you, once you find your feet."
Goku grins back and gives his little salute. "Won't be any time at all!" He then steps away, towards Vegeta. "You ready?"
Vegeta snorts. "Finish saying your goodbyes, Kakarot."
Goku nods, turning back to the crowd. "Well...I guess this is it!"
Freeza glowers from in back. "This is a waste of a death. Neither of you will get the deaths you deserve...not with me on the sidelines."
Vegeta growls. "Save your taunts, Freeza. You're not welcome, and we have better things to be doing with our last fight than listen to you."
The tyrant scowls, arms crossed, and subsides.
Piccolo glances at Freeza for a brief moment before turning to regard the saiyans. He doesn't say anything, unlike Freeza; instead he just looks. He trades a single nod with Vegeta, and then he and Goku stare each other down. For a full minute, they eye each other up, remembering decades of shared history. Then, at last, Piccolo sighs, closing his eyes. Opening them, he gives Goku a small smile. Goku mirrors the expression along with a thumbs-up, and then he turns away. "Hey, Whis?" he said. "We're ready to go."
The angel steps forward, tutting. "It's only a shame your families and the rest of your friends decided not to come!" he remarks.
Goku shakes his head. "Nah, I don't blame them. I don't think I'd like to watch, either. I mean, sure, we're going through with it, but just...watching? That'd be hard. Besides, it works better this way."
Whis shrugs. "If you say so. In that case, I'll just shuffle us out of here! We'll be watching, but you'll have the whole universe to yourself."
Goku grins; Vegeta smirks. They both look up into the sky, seeing the full extent of their final arena.
Shin turns away from the sight, a sudden lump in his throat. He deserves better, he thinks, walking forward as Whis opens a portal for them all. But this is how he wants it.
* * *
Goku straightens his spine, groaning as it pops and creaks. Opposite him, Vegeta does the same. Goku brushes at his bangs, pushing them out of his eyes. They flop back, as always, but for a moment the sight of grey where there has always been black thoroughly arrests him. "...we got old real fast."
"It's typical," mutters Vegeta, flexing his fists. "Strong life...swift end. One way or another."
"I don't know that I'll be at my best," admits Goku, not looking at his lifetime rival.
Vegeta closes his eyes, sighing. "...yes you will. You wouldn't allow it, otherwise." His eyes open again, and he looks up into the sky. "So, at the end, this is it. You, Kakarot, and me. Like it's always been. But...just us. This is it, and nothing more."
"It's been coming on a long time," admits Goku. "I gotta say, I wasn't really expecting it to happen like this. Not for a while, at least."
"I was," says Vegeta, grinning. "This is the only perfect way for it to end."
They both laugh for a moment, and then trail off, looking around.
Shin's viewpoint world is a masterpiece. There's nothing living, but he's made a work of art even so. Crystal spires rise from crags of rock, and water plummets from those crags in great falls to a vast, red sea below. The sky is yellow; the stars beyond choked with nebulae. The two old saiyans simply watch for a long moment, acutely aware of the passage of time, that every moment they spend watching this view is precious.
Goku sighs. "I don't know that I want this to be over," he admits. "I know it'll just be up to the Other World, but...that's really it. There'll be no coming back. Not permanently, ever again. Things will be different. I don't know if I can stand living up in Heaven, knowing that some day I'll look down, and..." He stalls, unable to continue.
Vegeta finishes for him. "...that one day you'll look down, and no longer feel any desire to go back."
Goku nods. "I heard somebody said that enlightenment was like that."
Vegeta makes a disgusted sound. "Spit on that. If enlightenment means not caring, then I don't want it. I'll take reincarnation."
It is the first time either of them have mentioned the possibility. Souls in Hell, of course, spend years being purified before getting another shot at life, but souls in Heaven? Technically, they can as well. But why would they? It's Heaven. And reincarnation means losing yourself and only knowing who you once were through stories, and perhaps someday, another afterlife. It's a desperate option. A terrifying option. A loss almost as complete as the apathy they fear.
"I'm with you," whispers Goku.
Vegeta nods. Then he takes a deep breath. "But that's not why we're here."
"No," agrees Goku, turning to face him.
Vegeta turns as well. "I will not find a death by old age."
"I don't like the idea either," replies Goku.
"There's only one death for a saiyan!" barks Vegeta, standing up straight.
"I'll take it," replies Goku, smirking.
Vegeta chuckles. "I'll bet." He bows his head. "You know, Kakarot, you've never acknowledged my title."
"Nope," replies Goku, still smirking. "Never really been much for Princes. Why? You want me to?"
Vegeta closes his eyes. "Hmph. No. It would mean no more now than it would have any other time in the past few decades. Besides...if I'm honest, being a saiyan prince hasn't meant that much, since Raditz and Nappa died. Not to anybody but me. I think, now...I'm ready to set it aside."
Goku blinks. "Wait, really? I thought you'd keep that up your whole life!"
Vegeta laughs. "Don't be too surprised, Kakarot. After all, there's only one way to stop being a Prince." He opens his eyes, meeting Goku's. Wind blows past them, ruffling their hair. "Now at last, it's only you and me, Kakarot! The last of the saiyan race in one place, alone in the universe! The two greatest warriors our people have ever produced, united as one! And I will not be a Prince! No, in this company, there is only one title that will do!" He draws his fists in, standing tall. "I am Vegeta, once Prince! I am the King of all Saiyans, and you will acknowledge that!"
Goku remains wide-eyed for a long moment...before returning to his confident grin. "Only if you make me."
Vegeta's return smile shows teeth. "Gladly."
Goku draws back one foot, and draws one fist back to a resting position by his hip. His leading hand comes up, held at head height. "This is it, Vegeta. One last time."
Vegeta doesn't take his own stance. Instead he closes his eyes once more, chuckling. "One last time..." The wind picks up, shrieking by in a howling whistle. The stillness of a new universe gives way to the first stirring brought by life. Vegeta's eyes open, and he raises his arms overhead. "And may the winner's name live forever! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
White ki blasts out of Vegeta's body and rips apart Shin's world, giving way to the void of space. In the vacuum, Vegeta pulls air into his aura and assumes his own stance, mirroring his first confrontation with Goku from years before.
The two stare each other down for a long moment, and then each charges. The meet, clashing off of one another, and the debris of the planet blasts away form the force of it. They rebound, they recover...and they return. Blows flicker faster than any other mortal could follow as the two rivals test one another's strength. Vegeta retreats to draw Goku forward only to slide down and forward, kicking up. Goku twists aside and kicks down, forcing Vegeta to tumble and catch the limb, twisting to hurl Goku away-
Streaks of white ki chase each other through the void where the planet once floated, and slowly they trend towards the stars around which Shin's planet once orbited. They are a binary pair, two yellow suns chasing one another around a central point, and as Goku and Vegeta seek the place of greatest advantage, they inevitably draw nearer to the stars and their critical, blinding light.
Goku chases Vegeta down into one of the stars' corona and tries to drive him into a solar flare; Vegeta seizes the plume of plasma and winds it around his arm, tearing it free of the star's surface to use as a lash billions of miles long against Goku. Goku blasts away the tendril and darts forward; Vegeta falls back down to the star's very surface, grinding to a halt against its paltry resistance. Goku presses onward faster still, and Vegeta launches himself upwards, letting his rival bury himself. He then streaks away, gaining distance for when Goku reemerges.
It takes less than a second. The star erupts in a flare larger than any mortal has ever seen as Goku tears his way free and hurtles towards Vegeta. Vegeta turns, arms flung wide, and brings them crashing together. "FINAL FLASH!"
Goku raises his arms at the last moment to block as Vegeta's attack strikes the flare Goku had thought to co-opt for his strike. It explodes, catching Goku from every direction and flinging him far forward and past Vegeta.
Vegeta turns. "You're still too aggressive, Kakarot! And you're still not making full use of what we have!"
Goku tumbles to a halt, swiveling in place. "Give me a break, Vegeta, we've just started! This is always the warm-up! You're not going all-out yet, either!"
Vegeta snickers. "I suppose you're right. I guess I'll just have to pick things up myself!" His hair flickers and his aura flinches. Backlit by a pair of stars, he looks up at Goku, his hair flickering gold. "Let's dispense with the pretenses, Kakarot; we're well past admitting that planets can't hold us. With our powers, planets are children's toys! With the merest fraction of our abilities, we could bring galaxies to their knees!" Now fully alight with the power of a super saiyan, Vegeta spreads his arms. From Goku's perspective, it looks like each hand centers over one of the stars. "Let us truly begin to test our abilities, and cut loose for the first time in our lives! There are no ceilings; entire worlds will be crushed to dust without us noticing! Let the universe be our arena, and let our death throes kill galaxies!"
His arms jerk up, hands meeting overhead. Behind him, without ceremony, the stars slam together and burst. Vegeta's hands come forward, and the eruption races towards and past him, slamming into Goku. For a moment, a new star is born in the explosion; a wild, unsustainable thing, born out of destruction and ripping itself apart under the urging of Vegeta's ki in order to spend yet-more-intense fury on its target. After a moment, it begins to die away.
Bolts of lightning chase the expanding gases of the stars' detonation as at the center, a new bloom of golden light grows. One sparks past Vegeta, and he raises his hand to deflect it from himself. For a second, sparks arc through his aura.
The light at the center of the artificial supernova pulses again, driving away the stars' corpse. The lightning continues, snapping around like headless snakes and veining the glorious light with an eerie blue glow.
"I remember," whispers Vegeta. "I remember the first time..."
At the heart of the storm, Goku opens his eyes. "Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..."
Vegeta takes his stance. "And now...I will never forget this last."
The gold snaps into place, utterly eclipsing the fury of the supernova even at its greatest, and the lightning dies. "HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
The light snaps back into place, and the first two super saiyans stare each other down across a million miles of separation.
It might as well be a foot.
This one will eventually become a monster. We break here, return tomorrow. Bye, folks!
