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Also, if he's not prepared for it, wouldn't suddenly having an extra few million units of ki be kinda....distracting for him?

In an 'oops, I dodged as normal but went through a few ships' way?

Or an 'uh-oh, my breath mask shattered when I exhaled' way?
 
Also, if he's not prepared for it, wouldn't suddenly having an extra few million units of ki be kinda....distracting for him?

In an 'oops, I dodged as normal but went through a few ships' way?

Or an 'uh-oh, my breath mask shattered when I exhaled' way?
And honestly, as strong as we are even fractionally, are we a.) strong enough to give enough to matter and b.) sure enough we can smoothly and safely donate the energy?

Have we ever given energy like that?
 
a.) strong enough to give enough to matter

Oh my, yes. We could double his power level without even going SSJ, and STILL be about as strong as he is (~7 million, I believe).

b.) sure enough we can smoothly and safely donate the energy?

I mean, in theory? We have excellent ki control. But I don't think we've done it before, no.

Given that we can't use ki to affect the material world at all (including telekinesis), I sorta doubt we can even give him any ki in the first place.

Have we ever given energy like that?

No, but we've received it (sort of, it was really our ki but other people had it, and it was theirs too) when we formed the genki dama.
 
Oh my, yes. We could double his power level without even going SSJ, and STILL be about as strong as he is (~7 million, I believe).



I mean, in theory? We have excellent ki control. But I don't think we've done it before, no.

Given that we can't use ki to affect the material world at all (including telekinesis), I sorta doubt we can even give him any ki in the first place.



No, but we've received it (sort of, it was really our ki but other people had it, and it was theirs too) when we formed the genki dama.
I thought he was sitting around 20 million or so, but I could be wrong.

And meanwhile on the energy donation itself, we're very clearly in "maybe, I think, possibly?" territory, which is really really bad when we're flying through space in the middle of a giant hostile blockade.
(Which I think you're probably agreeing with me about?)

Hence the agreement on sticking to Combat Precog (which is pretty awesome anyways).
 
Is there anything stopping us from just trying it before he leaves, and if it doesn't work, no one cares, and if it does, it's helpful? I don't really see it backfiring...
EDIT: I mean before he engages in combat.
 
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Is there anything stopping us from just trying it before he leaves, and if it doesn't work, no one cares, and if it does, it's helpful? I don't really see it backfiring...

You know how Goku went berserk when he absorbed the Spirit Bomb? That's what it backfiring would look like, if he doesn't just explode.
 
You know how Goku went berserk when he absorbed the Spirit Bomb? That's what it backfiring would look like, if he doesn't just explode.
How about using it as our trump card. If we see that things clearly go wrong than we give him ki boost (usual ki, not a Genki Dama). This tactic would be more effective with future sight though.
 
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The issue is that, while we know we have the ki, we don't know if we can actually donate it as a shade because we normally can't interact with the physical world as a shade. We might be able to do so since he is a sorcerer and sorcerers can interact with shades but we are not aware what happens if we try as we are now.
 
The issue is that, while we know we have the ki, we don't know if we can actually donate it as a shade because we normally can't interact with the physical world as a shade. We might be able to do so since he is a sorcerer and sorcerers can interact with shades but we are not aware what happens if we try as we are now.
And even then, trying to donate the Ki while he's in the middle of running and fighting for his life seems like poor timing.
 
The issue is that, while we know we have the ki, we don't know if we can actually donate it as a shade because we normally can't interact with the physical world as a shade. We might be able to do so since he is a sorcerer and sorcerers can interact with shades but we are not aware what happens if we try as we are now.
And even then, trying to donate the Ki while he's in the middle of running and fighting for his life seems like poor timing.
Summary: it's potentially dangerous and untested, but, theoretically, we can try it, as a desperate last variant if nothing else.
 
How about we stick to techniques we know will work for now, and then as a write-in try "experiment with donating your ki" later?

A situation may arise where we need to do this later, while still being a shade. We should have it ready in our toolbox. It's a good idea, it's just that it may backfire, fail, or require experimentation to work.

And honestly, as strong as we are even fractionally, are we a.) strong enough to give enough to matter and b.) sure enough we can smoothly and safely donate the energy?

Have we ever given energy like that?
a)We are in fact strong enough; even in shade form we can attain a power level that's relevant on the scale of a fight among people whose power level tops out in the 10-20 million range.

b) We haven't, but on the other hand it's not clear that this technique requires some kind of special training. People giving each other energy has precedent in the lore, and not just in the form of the Spirit Bomb. If Gohan could do it on Namek, it's reasonable to suppose that we can do it here, EXCEPT for the consideration that we're a shade.

The salient issues are, one, we ARE a shade and this may not be possible, and two, it would probably distract Bassoon a lot more than just having us yell "DOOODGE!" whenever he's in danger of getting blasted from behind.
 
That said, since the guys attacking Namek will be the new cold empire, they might actually be stronger than Bassoon plus our shade power level combined so let's try not to rely on that later if it works.
 
[x] Combat Precognition. While she's unpracticed in it, its very nature means that it is literally a matter of life or death, whenever it would come up.
 
That said, since the guys attacking Namek will be the new cold empire, they might actually be stronger than Bassoon plus our shade power level combined so let's try not to rely on that later if it works.
In the best-case scenario, we can use the dragonballs to wish for a body, then go Spirit Saiyan on the invasion force. They will have literally no idea what the fuck just hit them.

Although for that to really work, we need a way to restrain the invading army permanently after Spirit Saiyan wears off, because Kakara isn't going to kill the invasion fleet and forcing them to retreat permanently could be difficult.

Also, Spirit Saiyan means word might get out about, y'know, a saiyan. On New Namek, which then becomes Enemy chow.

Maybe it would be better to stay masqued and become a Spirit Human?

@PoptartProdigy , can Kakara think of any specific reason why the Spirit Bomb wouldn't work if she was Masqued, or why she couldn't absorb its energy while masqued?
 
[X] Combat Precognition. While she's unpracticed in it, its very nature means that it is literally a matter of life or death, whenever it would come up.
 
[X] Combat Precognition. While she's unpracticed in it, its very nature means that it is literally a matter of life or death, whenever it would come up.
 
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In the best-case scenario, we can use the dragonballs to wish for a body, then go Spirit Saiyan on the invasion force. They will have literally no idea what the fuck just hit them.

Although for that to really work, we need a way to restrain the invading army permanently after Spirit Saiyan wears off, because Kakara isn't going to kill the invasion fleet and forcing them to retreat permanently could be difficult.

Also, Spirit Saiyan means word might get out about, y'know, a saiyan. On New Namek, which then becomes Enemy chow.

Maybe it would be better to stay masqued and become a Spirit Human?

@PoptartProdigy , can Kakara think of any specific reason why the Spirit Bomb wouldn't work if she was Masqued, or why she couldn't absorb its energy while masqued?
Not beyond general uncertainty about how her new situation interacts with her more esoteric abilities.
 
[X] Combat Precognition. While she's unpracticed in it, its very nature means that it is literally a matter of life or death, whenever it would come up.
 
[x] Combat Precognition. While she's unpracticed in it, its very nature means that it is literally a matter of life or death, whenever it would come up.

This, but we're only going to yell "Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodddddddddddddddddddddddddddddgggggggggggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" out of respect for his culture.
 
[x] Combat Precognition. While she's unpracticed in it, its very nature means that it is literally a matter of life or death, whenever it would come up.
 
[x] Combat Precognition. While she's unpracticed in it, its very nature means that it is literally a matter of life or death, whenever it would come up.

Variety over specialization. Short over long term. Combat over utility.
But really, it's a life saver and another advantage. Worth it's weight in silver, if not gold.

But now I wonder- can short-range Sight like that be used for non-combat situations?
Like having an intuitive warning right before mortally offending someone, or accidentaly revealing a secret you shouldn't have (not by choice, but blurting out accidentaly)?

I know it's a different sort of ability, but I think it's fundamentally similar to CP (subconscious short-range Sight).
Maybe a high enough CP would allow to use it in less threathening situations?
Just wondering.
 
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