Voting is open
So I just finished watching the One Minute Melee between Hulk and Broly. Aside from reminding me about the single redeeming quality of the Broly movie (the pants-shittingly terrifying ruthlessness of the titular character when he's fighting), it's also reminded me of a similarly distinct fighting style in DBZ.

Twin Android Style: This style represents the fighting abilities programmed into Androids 17 and 18 for the sole purpose of killing Son Goku. This style places an extreme reliance on closely coordinating with another user of the style. The style emphasises disrupting the enemy's momentum and needs high efficiency of ki and stamina usage to maintain the constant pressure required. A user's duelling ability is adequate in case they're temporarily cut off from their partner and while the style uses ki techniques often, it sticks exclusively to the basics. The style does very well against Goku Style, unsurprisingly, and rather poorly against Trunks Style, also unsurprisingly. Involved techniques: Hand-to-Hand [Team Fighting, Twin Android partner required, Extreme], Ki Control, Ki Projection [Basic Attacks]. Penalised techniques: Hand-to-Hand [Crowd Fighting], Ki Projection [All save Basic Attacks, cripplingly so], Ki Sense.

@PoptartProdigy

Considering the Power Pole is indestructible in the absolute meaning of the word, is it possible that it's still floating around somewhere out there in space?

According to the OP, the threat of Goku and Vegeta prevented many galactic villains from threatening Earth which implies that both they and Earth were known in the galactic community. That said, does the galactic community know or at least have rumours of a few Earthlings or Saiyans making it out alive?

If it's not too much to ask, do you know anything about planet Tech-Tech and its inhabitants as they were in canon? Information is rather scarce on that front.

I actually already have a Twin Android Style, but it's a "lost" form in that it exists and the Exiles are aware that it's possible, but they haven't invented it and it's presently only used by 17 and 18 (who are, as those following the canon omakes will know, out in space).

It is floating out there somewhere. Finding it is quite the question, though.

Those last two actually range into spoiler territory either way I answer them, sorry.
 
Last edited:
Other than the mysterious Enemy, who exactly could threaten the Earth after Goku's and Vegeta's deaths? I mean, unless everyone in the galaxy started training their asses off (hell, even if they did train), there wouldn't be any aliens who'd be a threat to Chaozu, let alone anyone stronger than him.
 
Other than the mysterious Enemy, who exactly could threaten the Earth after Goku's and Vegeta's deaths? I mean, unless everyone in the galaxy started training their asses off (hell, even if they did train their assess off), there wouldn't be any aliens who'd be a threat to Chaozu, let alone anyone stronger than him.

It's a big universe, and if anything, there's always a bigger threat somewhere out there in Dragon Ball. It took years and years, but eventually some new villains rose up, out in the wider galaxy. They weren't powerful enough to challenge Goku and Vegeta, no, and remember that Gohan and the rest successfully defended the Earth for a decade after the main two died, but they were out there. And then, of course, the Enemy came.

But specifics are definitely spoilers.

Gonna need to buckle down and write the update soon, folks. If you've got questions, ask them in the next hour or so and then I've got to go.
 
Last edited:
The last one most definitely does NOT range into spoiler territory. The question specifically asks for canon information - stuff that Akira Toriyama wrote, not stuff that you wrote.

Have a second to answer.

Whoops, misread. Thought you were asking about my presentation here. I know everything that comes included in the special it appears in and that the wiki has.
 
Other than the mysterious Enemy, who exactly could threaten the Earth after Goku's and Vegeta's deaths? I mean, unless everyone in the galaxy started training their asses off (hell, even if they did train), there wouldn't be any aliens who'd be a threat to Chaozu, let alone anyone stronger than him.

Other inhabitants of the demon realm?
Other Bibidi clones enhancing fighters to avenge Babadi's death
Other characters from Dragonball GT or the movies that weren't dealt with in that particular instinct.
Pikkon or other members of his race?
Hypothetical Fusion Crazy Namakien
More members of Frezia's unknown race
Attackers from one of the other 11 universes, including potentially goatee wearing 'evil' versions of any main character!
Other red ribbon Remanent that had access to Dr Geros notes?

Its Dragonball/Dragonball Z.

There is always another threat lying around just out of sight!

Though I have to admit it would be funny if the humans had their own hidden 'Android Defenders' program that the Saiyans had no clue about
 
Last edited:
Other inhabitants of the demon realm?
Other Bibidi clones enhancing fighters to avenge Babadi's death
Other characters from Dragonball GT or the movies that weren't dealt with in that particular instinct.
Pikkon or other members of his race?
Hypothetical Fusion Crazy Namakien
More members of Frezia's unknown race
Attackers from one of the other 11 universes, including potentially goatee wearing 'evil' versions of any main character!
Other red ribbon Remanent that had access to Dr Geros notes?

Its Dragonball/Dragonball Z.

There is always another threat lying around just out of sight!

Though I have to admit it would be funny if the humans had their own hidden 'Android Defenders' program that the Saiyans had no clue about
Wasn't very helpful tho, if it did exist:V
 
Ah but they've also got flying cars!
We've figured out the basics of making them...

We just can't actually build them in a workable manner that isn't prohibitively expensive.

Give me a minute and I'll find the articles.

Edit: Probably not what you're thinking of but...

Flying car technology is turning a dream into reality - BBC News

Flying car prototype unveiled at Vienna technology show – video

The race is on for flying car start ups - CNN.com

See? Flying Cars!

:V
 
Last edited:
In mechanical terms, you get bonuses on the opposed roll that equate to what two skill ranks give you in terms of roll bonuses. Your opponent isn't penalized; you're boosted. The boost equates to two skill ranks, at master level, but isn't actually boosting your skill. The distinction is important because Elite+ skill ranks come with bonus effects beyond, "your boost gets bigger," to represent that they are truly transcendent forms of mastery over the covered skill.
So cookie use will equate to a skill rank rather than actually increase it temporarily?

Kakara's inner monologue tells us that Super Saiyan is apart from base/Great Ape, so how come the speed, durability, and strength modifications act as if Golden Ape was a single form? Is it because it actually is a single form?

Goku moved ki to his finger to block Trunks' sword swings. Does that fall under Ki Projection or Ki Talents? Does it directly scale or is it its own skill?

Is God of Destruction's Wrath its own skill or does it fall under Basic Attacks?
 
Last edited:
How About a Spar, Scion?
[X] Continue talking to Fennella.
-[X] About herself, then about us. Let's get to know each other.
-[X] Don't forget to exchange phone numbers at the end so we can keep in touch.

How About a Spar, Scion?
You and Fennella gradually start relaxing with each other over the course of your chat. Running through three steaks, two tubs of popcorn about as large as your head, a kebab (each), and enough apples to choke a horse, the two of you do the usual routine of new Saiyan friendship.

Out of the corner of your eye, you can see High Priest Celeran grinning over at the two of you more than once, after he returns from wherever he went. You don't pay him -- nor, indeed, the rest of the gathering -- much mind, however. Instead, you focus on your new friend.

"I've always wanted to be a priestess," says Fennella in between bites. "You get to be part of the Faith, everybody there respects you, and you get to lead the prayer ceremonies! Plus, I wouldn't be High Priest like Uncle Celeran, so I wouldn't have to pretend that I'm not a Peat."

You raise your eyebrows. "Pretend?"

She makes a rude noise. "Please. Everybody knows that my uncle is still part of the family. Just because he doesn't use his name anymore doesn't mean that he doesn't come around for family dinners. Usually he still does as my D-"

"Now, now, Fennella," says the High Priest, appearing behind his niece and laying a hand on her shoulder. To an ordinary saiyan Celeran would have appeared to have phased in, but to your eyes his approach was nearly painfully slow. "My oaths as High Priest compel me to maintain my loyalty to the whole of the Faith, not merely one House. I visit many families, across both Clans."

He looks nervous.

Fennella frowns up at him. "But Uncle Celeran, didn't you just have that talk with my Dad-"

"Well, I talk to many Heads, as the leader of the Faith should," he says, riding right over her and squeezing her shoulder a bit. "It is my duty. But yes, I speak to your father on occasion." He squeezes her again and then smiles at you. "Are you having fun with my niece, Lady Scion?"

You nod, smiling. "Yes. Fennella was just saying that she wants to be a priestess when she grows up. Not High Priestess, though. Because of the name thing."

You watch, carefully, and only barely catch the slightest flinch in the High Priest's shoulders as you say that.

Dad would probably be more furious than you've ever known him to be if you told him that the High Priest was still receiving orders from his Head. And then briefly grateful, just to make sure it was clear that he wasn't angry at you, before returning to utter fury.

Hm.

Thoughts for later.

The High Priest give you a shaky grin. "Well, I'm glad to hear that she wants to follow the old family tradition," he says. "If you would excuse me, Lady Scion? I need to go speak to one of my subordinates. We'll be starting relatively soon."

You shrug. "Okay."

He moves off quickly. You watch him go, feeling like giggling.

Fennella shrugs. "I wonder what that was about."

"Don't know," you say, shaking your head to clear your amusement away. "Maybe he just wanted to check on us?"

"Maybe." She leans back, cleaning off her fingers.

"What does a priestess do?" you ask, moving the conversation back on track. You didn't come over here so you could do politics. You wanted a new friend.

"They lead the prayer services," she says. "That's always fun. And they read pieces of scripture sometimes, too. My favorite is 'The Prince and the Soldier.'"

"I don't really know the scripture," you say, cocking your head curiously.

Fennella perks up. "Oh, it's great! It's got all the things from the histories, but even better! When the first High Priest Celeran wrote down the holy writings, he said that he wanted them to be like stories so that people would like them, and they're so much fun to read. So, if you read those they're all of the things that really happened, but told like in a book!"

"I'm not sure what you mean," you say.

She turns to face you fully. "It's like this: 'The Prince and the Soldier,' the one I mentioned, is about the first time Penitent Vegeta and Raditz met, right before the death of Planet Vegeta. But the whole legend is told by Raditz and Vegeta as they meet for the first time. They're both just kids, and they're under Freeza's thumb, and it's hard on them. So out loud, they're just having this argument, right? And Vegeta is beating on Raditz for being...inso...insola...rude."

"Oh, insolent," you say, thinking back to Jaffur and how that's exactly the sort of thing he'd say.

"Yeah, that's it! But when you're reading it, it goes into their heads and shows you what they're feeling. And it ends as they hear about the destruction of Vegeta. Vegeta -- Penitent Vegeta, I mean -- is the one who tells Raditz, and the story ends with the two of them looking at each other and realizing that they're the only ones left except for Nappa, and what that feels like."

"That does sound cool," you say. "More like a storybook than a holy book. I've read some of the Garenhulders' things, and..."

Fennella snorts. "Those? They wrote those thousands of years ago. Nobody even speaks the same languages as back then anymore. This was written a lot sooner than that!"

"Two hundred years ago," you say, skeptical. "A little less."

"Come on, Kakara, that's not- ack!"

She cuts herself off as you throw your arms around her neck and give her a short, sharp hug.

She hugs you back. "Um...thank you? Why...?"

"Got you to say my name," you say, scrubbing at your eyes. "Been waiting on that."

It has been many years since you last heard any saiyan your age actually say your name like a friend would.

You are perfectly fine.

"...are you...?"

You lean back, taking a deep breath. "So! Stories. They sound good."

She gives you a concerned look. "You okay?"

You flash a bright smile at her. "Fine!"

"...okay." She looks skeptical, but accepts your answer. "So...what do you want to do when you grow up? Well...I mean..." She flushes.

"Well, obviously be the Lady," you say, grinning. "Other than that, though, I'm not sure. I have a long time before that happens."

Besides, you should really unseal Jaffur before worrying about other things in life.

She nods. "I guess so, yeah. What about in your Masque?"

You laugh. "Oh, I really don't know. I mean, I have human friends, but otherwise I'm not sure what I want my Masque to do. I've been focusing on saiyan life too much to really focus on what I want 'Karen' to be when she grows up."

She cocks her head. "You have human friends?"

You nod happily. "Yep! Sophie, Gemma, Jenny, Maya, and Jaron-" You stop yourself. Perhaps you shouldn't mention Jaffur's Masque-name.

But Fennella doesn't seem to recognize it, and just nods along. "Nice. I have have some too. It really helps."

You breathe a quiet sigh of relief that she didn't notice. "It does. I practice fighting with them, and it's really great for getting more comfortable in my Masque."

"Oh, really?"

"Yeah! I can get up to more than half my base strength Masqued, now."

She blinks and leans forward. "...really?"

You nod. "Yeah."

"Wow. I know some people can do stuff like that, but you're only nine. Right?"

"Right."

"Wow. I need to train while Masqued." She looks around. Her eyes pass over something in the crowd, and she immediately tracks back over to you, snapping her head over quickly enough for her hair to flop wildly.

The frustrated presence in the crowd spikes.

"Wanna spar?" she asks, looking at the central platform the two of you are sitting against. "We've got enough time for a quick one before things start. Ever fought a Trunks Stylist before?"

Your automatic demurral stops before you can utter it when she mentions her style. "Trunks Style? Don't you need a sword for that?"

"I have a practice one in my bag," she says, pointing off towards the side of the Hall. "If you want to go fight, though, you need to promise that you keep your power level low."

"How low?" you ask. "How high is yours?"

"Six and three-quarters million!" she replies, grinning.

You blink. That's an impressive amount for her age, considering that she didn't have Scion training like you did. Nothing as impressive as Jaffur or Betarel, but still outside the norm. Most adults don't get that strong unless they're Heads. Then again, that would probably be why she's that strong. "And how much should I stick to?" you say.

"Seven and a quarter million, if you can," she replies. "I wanna see if I can win when you're stronger."

* * *
High Priest Celeran is off in a knot of lesser power levels.

Your Grandmother has left her previous group and returned to the stage, apparently content to wait out the rest of the time until the Council begins.

The strange power level that you sensed with Grandma in her group just vanished off your senses completely.

Lady Vegeta has stopped bouncing around and is instead now in a large group that seems to be attracting more people as time goes by.

The frustrated power level has moved close to you and Fennella. Now that it's acting so weird and standing so close, you'd guess it's at six and a half million...isn't that the direction she was looking in before she suggested you spar?

* * *
-[X] Don't forget to exchange phone numbers at the end so we can keep in touch.

Will be taken next turn; at the start if you go elsewhere, at the end if you remain with her.
You'd guess that this is the last of your time before the Council starts in earnest. Unless one of the options you pick notes that you can choose additional options or is a free action, choose only one of the following (and as many sub-options as you like, provided they don't conflict):

[ ] Tell Fennella you'd rather not spar.
-[ ] Ask Fennella what's up. Who's that she's trying not to look at?
--[ ] Go and ask the frustrated power level what they're doing. (Write-in approach and conversation topics)
---[ ] Drag Fennella with.
-[ ] Keep talking until the Council starts (write-in what).
-[ ] Say goodbye, trade numbers, and do something else (vote for another option as well to determine what).
[ ] Tell Fennella you'd like to spar. (0.9x vote weighting)
-[ ] Ask Fennella what's up. Who's that she's trying not to look at?
[ ] Go talk to somebody else.
-[ ] Who, how, and why?
[ ] Sit down and wait for the Council to start.
[ ] Leave immediately, and write-in why.
[ ] Write-In.
[ ] Use Multiform to gain one additional action. (FREE ACTION)
[ ] Sneak off and use Multiform to gain one additional action discreetly It is too late to do this as you'd be out of time by the time you got back.

Every approach you could have taken led to some kind of special information. In this one, Fennella's terminal inability to be discreet was something Celeran didn't bargain on, and you, the Scion with training in politics and the history of House Peat, were more than capable of recognizing the implications of what she let slip. Fortunately, you held your reactions well enough that you're pretty sure he doesn't know that you've realized he's still taking orders from his Head.

Enjoy, everybody! I'll answer the questions that have piled up tomorrow; for now I need to turn my brain off, just trawl the site for a bit, and then sleep. But before you go...

So, it's been mentioned, a few times, that I haven't updated the formatting of the front page yet, which is badly needed in order to get more information such as lore up there. It's on my list, I haven't forgotten. However, RL has been depriving me of some time lately, so I need to cut something. RL is not an option, obviously. My other quest is also not on the table. In general, however, there are three things on this quest that take up my time: writing updates, updating the front page (which, along with the delayed reformat, is what I'm presently cutting most often), and answering questers' questions (y'all have a lot). I can cut the first or the last thing to gain the time I need for the big reformat, but I'm uncomfortable doing so as, natively, I value them more than the front page. But ultimately, the front page is an important resource and it's something you all make use of. Beyond that, having a dedicated lore section would, long-term, reduce the amount of time I spend answering questions, diverting yet more time to updates. That said, the current state of affairs isn't entirely objectionable from my perspective. I have time for the quest updates easily, which are the most fun for me. I just can't fit all three things as they presently stand into that time. It's more important from your perspective than mine, so I'm putting it to a vote:

[ ] We can wait for the reformat. Keep on as you have and get around to it when you have the chance.
[X] Our questions can wait. Stop answering questers' questions until you get the reformat done with.
[ ] Hold the next update and do the reformat instead. We'll be patient.

THESE VOTES ARE NOW CLOSED.

See you all soon! Enjoy the update!
 
Last edited:
[X] Our questions can wait. Stop answering questers' questions until you get the reformat done with.
 
[X] Our questions can wait. Stop answering questers' questions until you get the reformat done with.

Now to spare or not to spare I'm very divided on this and I got arguments for both I'm not for certain which top choose
 
[X] Tell Fennella you'd like to spar. (0.9x vote weighting)
-[X] Ask Fennella what's up. Who's that she's trying not to look at?
[X] Go talk to somebody else.
-[X] Lady Vegeta, you want to know what she's been doing.
[X] Use Multiform to gain one additional action. (FREE ACTION)

Kinda concerned/curious what Dandeer is doing.

[X] Hold the next update and do the reformat instead. We'll be patient.
 
Last edited:
In this one, Fennella's terminal inability to be discreet was something Celeran didn't bargain on, and you, the Scion with training in politics and the history of House Peat, were more than capable of recognizing the implications of what she let slip. Fortunately, you held your reactions well enough that you're pretty sure he doesn't know that you've realized he's still taking orders from his Head.
I've gotta say, setting it up so that Karaka's first real maybe-friend as a Saiyan accidentally let that slip is a wonderful touch. It really adds that extra layer of difficulty to deciding what to do with the information. Fennella seems like she would take the fallout of such a revelation rather badly, and that could have a serious effect on us as well. Throw in the fact that we only recently restored our relationship with our father and now might have to keep this from him, and the situation is even better. A wonderful setup for a choice that will likely be fundamental in how our character decides between duty and personal desires. Was this planned before our befriending roll?
 
[] Grab the frustrated guy and rope him into the conversation. Who is he and what's going on between him and Fennella?
-[] Say that while we'd like to spar with her, this probably isn't the best place or time for it. Schedule a date for it.

[] Our questions can wait. Stop answering questers' questions until you get the reformat done with.

I'm starting to worry that Fennella is being played for politics. Subtlety isn't the best play here since Fennella might not know what's going on and the guy could escape when he figures out we know about him.

Fortunately, you held your reactions well enough that you're pretty sure he doesn't know that you've realized he's still taking orders from his Head.
Did we gain any experience in Deceit?
 
Last edited:
Actually, screw it. This is Dragon Ball. Politics can jump in a hole and die in a fire. I wanna see a fight.

[] Tell Fennella you'd like to spar. (0.9x vote weighting)
-[] Tell her we want to fight at the same power level as her. If we win, we want to know we won because of our skill, not our power level.
-[] Ask Fennella what's up. Who's that she's trying not to look at?

[] Our questions can wait. Stop answering questers' questions until you get the reformat done with.
 
Last edited:
[X] Tell Fennella you'd like to spar. (0.9x vote weighting)
-[X] Tell her we want to fight at the same power level as her. If we win, we want to know we won because of our skill, not our power level.
-[X] Ask Fennella what's up. Who's that she's trying not to look at?

Why would we reveal Multiform over this anyway...
 
Voting is open
Back
Top